**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[Generator]

Just baffling decision on the AH really. You know the argument is horseshit when people say the AH is too good, too efficient! Think of the thousands of years of humanity and all the meetings in between that created market places. These 2 stupid fucks at Blizzard believe having no market will be BETTER for the game. WHAT?!?!?!

Even if all drops, all gems, all mats were bind on pick-up there would still be a market! This is all a cynical ploy to market a expansion to some jaded gamers. The problem with diablo is simple, it to fucking simple! Any game where you only need 6 skills to account for but really only need to hold whirlwind to beat the ENTIRE game is fundamentally flawed. That is the problem.

 

[silverpig]

What they have now is fine. The problem has been itemization since day one. They could roll out 2.0 and leave the AHs alone. Fix itemization and the AHs became darn near useless except for an upgrade or two UNLESS you have to have THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!!!!!

The loot was built around the AH instead of the AH being built around the loot. Trading is going to SUCK now. I HATED D2 trading for 30 minutes at time HOPING to find that one person with the item I was looking for and HOPING they had the one item I wanted. better yet, trading nonstop for sojs just to get enough to get that one item I want.

Bots are going to run the economy for trading due to pickits just like they do now.

Yeah I agree. Doing a barter system is a terrible idea. It's the entire reason why money exists. If I have wheat and need coal, but the guy in town has wood, and the guy who has coal only needs iron, but there's a guy in the next town over who wants wheat and has iron... It's easier to just sell for something that is liquid, divisible, and has universal value - i.e., money.

The AH and gold serve this purpose well. Eliminating it will only cause third party sites to pop up.

Fixing the itemization so I had a good chance of finding upgrades, and had a good chance of finding the best (or close to it) upgrade possible for me within a reasonable amount of time would indeed make the AH essentially worthless. If I had a good chance of finding a 1300 dps manticore in game, while the best one on the AH was 1320 dps, I wouldn't really spend much time on the AH. But in my experience with several hundred hours played, the best manticore I've found is ~350dps, a dex roll, and a socket away from what I have right now.

Maybe the solution is to make rolls dependent on your current level/gear. Instead of having a chance to roll 150-200 dex on an item, it has a chance to role +/- 10 dex from what you currently have. Sure you could get people who play often enough who get items with 1500 dex eventually, but you can counter that by just upping the MP levels to oh 50 or so.

 

[Alex C]

The problem with the AH is that it catapults players through the end game; they get gear that's better than 99.999% of the stuff they find on their own and their DPS is ten times higher than that of people who don't buy their gear. The game is then too easy for them so the devs make it harder, but no one wants to play at a higher difficulty if there's no increase in rewards, so they buff those too. Now the people who bought their gear are able to farm MP10 and find multiple Legendaries every run, while the people who choose not to use the AH are stuck back at MP3 or so and are lucky to see a Legendary item once a month. So the real end game doesn't even really start until well beyond what a player can reasonably get to without using the auction house.

It's not a matter of not using it if you don't want to, it's existence changes the balance of the game regardless of whether or not you choose to use it. Even with a revamped loot system, it'll launch too many people to the top and they'd have to re-balance the game to give them more challenges and more rewards while anybody who chooses not to use it will be left behind again.

 

[pandemonium]

What they have now is fine. The problem has been itemization since day one. They could roll out 2.0 and leave the AHs alone. Fix itemization and the AHs became darn near useless except for an upgrade or two UNLESS you have to have THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!!!!!

The loot was built around the AH instead of the AH being built around the loot. Trading is going to SUCK now. I HATED D2 trading for 30 minutes at time HOPING to find that one person with the item I was looking for and HOPING they had the one item I wanted. better yet, trading nonstop for sojs just to get enough to get that one item I want.

Bots are going to run the economy for trading due to pickits just like they do now.

Agreed. The AH system is there as a perfectly fine supplement for equipment that you really need. The loot system is just that terrible that it's become such a necessity to have to rely on the AH.

And going back to the barter system is pretty dumb.

When the AH closes, the community will build up an out of game AH trade forum as a substitute. I really don't see how closing the AH will do any good other than make things more worse than they already are. The economy is already @#^$ed. A lot of good it'll do now to close the AH. Just fix the loot system and it'll equalize itself out if it's done properly.

 

[Snock514]

God some of these posts give me diablo cancer

 

[lupi]

Never used the AH, so can't complain that it will be gone.

 

[Rhezuss]

Not to derail the subject but yesterday I finally managed to get the Staff of Herding. I'm on Hell and Izual gave it to me at last.

I did Whimsyshire and...what a waste of time really. I thought they would up the drop rate and drop quality a bit. But anyways, got the Achievement.

I'm gonna complete Hell tonight at last and start Inferno.

I'm sitting at 54k HP and 57K DPS...am I ok to start at MP10?

 

[waggy]

Not to derail the subject but yesterday I finally managed to get the Staff of Herding. I'm on Hell and Izual gave it to me at last.

I did Whimsyshire and...what a waste of time really. I thought they would up the drop rate and drop quality a bit. But anyways, got the Achievement.

I'm gonna complete Hell tonight at last and start Inferno.

I'm sitting at 54k HP and 57K DPS...am I ok to start at MP10?

Whimsyshire is fun the 1st time. its kinda fun..but hell the drops sucked

 

[evident]

lol. so glad i stopped playing this game after a month.

 

[smackababy]

Not to derail the subject but yesterday I finally managed to get the Staff of Herding. I'm on Hell and Izual gave it to me at last.

I did Whimsyshire and...what a waste of time really. I thought they would up the drop rate and drop quality a bit. But anyways, got the Achievement.

I'm gonna complete Hell tonight at last and start Inferno.

I'm sitting at 54k HP and 57K DPS...am I ok to start at MP10?

In Hell? Yeah you shouldn't have a problem in MP10. 57k is about the DPS of people I carry in public games in Inferno, which makes me a sad panda.

 

[Rhezuss]

In Hell? Yeah you shouldn't have a problem in MP10. 57k is about the DPS of people I carry in public games in Inferno, which makes me a sad panda.

Well i've been on MP10 since late Normal and never dropped the thing.
I know Inferno solo is hard that's why i'm asking people that completed Inferno.

To solo MP10 Inferno i'll need better gear that's for sure.

 

[smackababy]

Well i've been on MP10 since late Normal and never dropped the thing.
I know Inferno solo is hard that's why i'm asking people that completed Inferno.

To solo MP10 Inferno i'll need better gear that's for sure.

If you're just starting Inferno, I'd start out fairly low (like MP 3) and then up it if you're okay. Ideally, what you want is the highest MP that takes very little time to complete. You'd have to up your DPS to go over MP 3 or so I think.

 

[Adrenaline]

My Monk is fun to play and since gold is nosediving, I spent 2 billion gold on a MH / OH / Amulet and raised my dps by 43k. Any suggestions on what to upgrade next? I could grab a Crit Mempo (I found an Inna's helm 197 Dex 100 Vit 19 AR 6 Crit and 9% Sweeping Wind Damage which I could use, just wish the AR was higher) or some better Lacuni's.

I am set on:
Shoulders
MH
OH
Amulet

My Barb was easier to find upgrades for on the AH. So nice when only one class uses strength.

 

[smackababy]

My Monk is fun to play and since gold is nosediving, I spent 2 billion gold on a MH / OH / Amulet and raised my dps by 43k. Any suggestions on what to upgrade next? I could grab a Crit Mempo (I found an Inna's helm 197 Dex 100 Vit 19 AR 6 Crit and 9% Sweeping Wind Damage which I could use, just wish the AR was higher) or some better Lacuni's.

I am set on:
Shoulders
MH
OH
Amulet

My Barb was easier to find upgrades for on the AH. So nice when only one class uses strength.

I'd check D3Up and see what is giving you the least DPS / EHP and upgrade that. A crit Mempo is best in slot, and if you have 2.01 AS already, you can drop something with IAS for better stats.

 

[pcmatt1024]

My Monk is fun to play and since gold is nosediving, I spent 2 billion gold on a MH / OH / Amulet and raised my dps by 43k. Any suggestions on what to upgrade next? I could grab a Crit Mempo (I found an Inna's helm 197 Dex 100 Vit 19 AR 6 Crit and 9% Sweeping Wind Damage which I could use, just wish the AR was higher) or some better Lacuni's.

I am set on:
Shoulders
MH
OH
Amulet

My Barb was easier to find upgrades for on the AH. So nice when only one class uses strength.

i have a 4.5cc mempo if you want to work something out. don't have the exact numbers off hand, but something like 172 dex, 8ias, 76ar, 12%life. say cheapest 4.5cc/12life dex mempo on the GAH minus 10%? It'll up your DPS quite a bit, though you'll be taking an eHP hit

as for other upgrades, you can get an inna's chest with way more vit in exchange for the 55 res. Even considering OWE, an extra 150+ vit does a world of good.

and unless you need the ias, the bracers could use some improvement. the move speed is useless since you already have 24 from pants/boots. shouldn't take many crafts to get a good dps upgrade.

 

[Rhezuss]

Well yesterday while chatting and asking about stuff one guy asked me to invite him and he gave me Set and Legendary items without asking for nothing. Quite nice of him!

But none of those were upgrades...
But I switched to 2H from DW...same DPS and HP but different playstyle to renew the fun.

 

[Cappuccino]

I have 6cc Intell Mempo and a 4.5 Strength Mempo. If anyone wants it add me Pikachu#1961 (YES FREE)
EU.

 

[silverpig]

i have a 4.5cc mempo if you want to work something out. don't have the exact numbers off hand, but something like 172 dex, 8ias, 76ar, 12%life. say cheapest 4.5cc/12life dex mempo on the GAH minus 10%? It'll up your DPS quite a bit, though you'll be taking an eHP hit

as for other upgrades, you can get an inna's chest with way more vit in exchange for the 55 res. Even considering OWE, an extra 150+ vit does a world of good.

and unless you need the ias, the bracers could use some improvement. the move speed is useless since you already have 24 from pants/boots. shouldn't take many crafts to get a good dps upgrade.

Everyone is hot on Lacunis, but I crafted some 312 dex 6% CC bracers that give me way more DPS than any Lacunis I've seen. They could still be improved as there's only physical res on them and not allres.

 

[smackababy]

Everyone is hot on Lacunis, but I crafted some 312 dex 6% CC bracers that give me way more DPS than any Lacunis I've seen. They could still be improved as there's only physical res on them and not allres.

For characters that don't require stacking Attack Speed, crafted bracers are so much better than Lacuni's. On a CM Wiz and a Barb, Lacuni's are BiS, but on a Monk, crafted are better. I am not sure about WD or DHs though.

 

[Adrenaline]

i have a 4.5cc mempo if you want to work something out. don't have the exact numbers off hand, but something like 172 dex, 8ias, 76ar, 12%life. say cheapest 4.5cc/12life dex mempo on the GAH minus 10%? It'll up your DPS quite a bit, though you'll be taking an eHP hit

as for other upgrades, you can get an inna's chest with way more vit in exchange for the 55 res. Even considering OWE, an extra 150+ vit does a world of good.

and unless you need the ias, the bracers could use some improvement. the move speed is useless since you already have 24 from pants/boots. shouldn't take many crafts to get a good dps upgrade.

Thanks. I was looking earlier and saw the run speed on the pants /boots to go with the bracers. I was just really used to playing my Barb and having Lacuni's, so I can change those out. AR bracers with lightning resists are not easy t find. There are a bunch of poison.

I may use my Inna's helm or look at getting one with pickup radius as none of my gear has that.

How much AR should I be shooting for as a Monk? I am at 578.

 

[bonkers325]

Thanks. I was looking earlier and saw the run speed on the pants /boots to go with the bracers. I was just really used to playing my Barb and having Lacuni's, so I can change those out. AR bracers with lightning resists are not easy t find. There are a bunch of poison.

I may use my Inna's helm or look at getting one with pickup radius as none of my gear has that.

How much AR should I be shooting for as a Monk? I am at 578.

it depends on the rest of your stats, but 600 is a good number if you have like 45k hp and 5k armor.

 

[alcoholbob]

Just baffling decision on the AH really. You know the argument is horseshit when people say the AH is too good, too efficient! Think of the thousands of years of humanity and all the meetings in between that created market places. These 2 stupid fucks at Blizzard believe having no market will be BETTER for the game. WHAT?!?!?!

Even if all drops, all gems, all mats were bind on pick-up there would still be a market! This is all a cynical ploy to market a expansion to some jaded gamers. The problem with diablo is simple, it to fucking simple! Any game where you only need 6 skills to account for but really only need to hold whirlwind to beat the ENTIRE game is fundamentally flawed. That is the problem.

The problem was not an Auction House in a vacuum, the problem was Blizzard wanted a piece of the action in order to pay for upkeep of running the Auction House, and as a result drop rates had to be abysmal across the entire game. Everyone, whether self-found or AH users, were a affected by it.

As Kripparian put it succinctly, Blizzard's bottom line had to be met as long as there was an Auction House. It was that combination that was ruining the game. The Auction House is not a problem in WoW for example, because Blizzard's bottom line was being met with subscription fees, (even BiS gear can be bought in the BMAH) so the WoW AH was a nice service free of all the drama in Diablo 3.

 

[silverpig]

For characters that don't require stacking Attack Speed, crafted bracers are so much better than Lacuni's. On a CM Wiz and a Barb, Lacuni's are BiS, but on a Monk, crafted are better. I am not sure about WD or DHs though.

For DHs attack speed usually either doesn't help or hurts for most builds. For spike traps, it doesn't help at all, for rapid fire it hurts as you run through hatred very quickly.

WDs with bats are simiar to DHs with rapid fire - channelling skills with high AS just deplete your resources that much faster.

 

[Jumpem]

For DHs attack speed usually either doesn't help or hurts for most builds. For spike traps, it doesn't help at all, for rapid fire it hurts as you run through hatred very quickly.

WDs with bats are simiar to DHs with rapid fire - channelling skills with high AS just deplete your resources that much faster.

I have set of 3.5+ attack speed gear for my DH. It works great for a Grenades, Sentry, Wolf, Spike Trap build. It is more survivable than a Rapid Fire build, but is slower to clear.

 

[Mantle]

Thanks. I was looking earlier and saw the run speed on the pants /boots to go with the bracers. I was just really used to playing my Barb and having Lacuni's, so I can change those out. AR bracers with lightning resists are not easy t find. There are a bunch of poison.

I may use my Inna's helm or look at getting one with pickup radius as none of my gear has that.

How much AR should I be shooting for as a Monk? I am at 578.

MP10 Benchmarks
4.8 K Armor (with STI)
600 All Resistance (With OWE)
91% total Damage Reduction
Dual LS > 2.5% on each weapon
3K dex, or close to (dependent on paragon level)
Minimum 45K life, more the better as long as you're not artificially jacking up EHP via Vitality
Around 200K DPS with a Won Khim Lau or Skorn (if using the skorrn, must be running a build like Druin's Tempest Rush Build)