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pandemonium

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So...finally leveled my crusader to 70 and equipped: the Salvation shield I found a while ago while playing my monk, the unique ring with block bonus, and every passive and the primary skill for block.

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I can lag out, walk through hordes of monsters, and not do a d*** thing, and never lose health. Freaking ridiculous.

Hating the monk life very much right now.
 
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Denithor

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Is anyone else getting game freezes? Ever since yesterday, I just get them randomly. Nothing appears to be wrong with my machine, the game just stops responding. It isn't stuck in some crazy, cycle-chewing loop (i.e. not maxing out a core). I recall there being an issue if you were in a rift an hour and a half where the game might freeze.

EDIT:

Actually, the game isn't completely frozen. I can still move the cursor around, it sometimes changes when I highlight an enemy. But I killed the program and the flipping thing crashed five minutes into the next instance! :|

EDIT 2:

The repair tool says that I have no problems.

I was playing last night, didn't have any freezes or crashes, but my game seemed about 1/4 second out of sync. I would click on an enemy, sometimes multiple times, and suddenly the hits would come out in a flurry and dead enemy. Could have just been lag I guess but seemed sporadic instead of constant.

Also, thanks for the comment about damage resist versus dodge, that makes a lot of sense. DR reduces all incoming damage, very evenly, dodge sometimes negates completely but you might fail to dodge 4-5-6 times or whatever and just...die.

Still playing around with the monk, the crusader sounds cool but you have to get the expansion to play that class and I haven't decided if I am going to play seriously or just mess around with the demo. So for now, monk it is.
 

Qbah

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So...finally leveled my crusader to 70 and equipped: the Salvation shield I found a while ago while playing my monk, the unique ring with block bonus, and every passive and the primary skill for block.

O
M
G

I can lag out, walk through hordes of monsters, and not do a d*** thing, and never lose health. Freaking ridiculous.

Hating the monk life very much right now.

Let me just add that you can block some elite skills like fire chain or electrified, fire breaths and other not typical hits... And I run into hordes of mobs laughing like a maniac, doesn't really matter what mobs :-D That only happens on my wizard when I fire up archon
 

lupi

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I'm thinking they're still, at least intermittently, having server problems.

I was in a logon queue sunday night, and at some point recently I cam across an elite and couple of champ packs and it was like watching a slideshow. Luckily I had the difficulty down to T1 for some faster runs so I somehow managed to stay alive till the sputter smoothed out finally.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I can lag out, walk through hordes of monsters, and not do a d*** thing, and never lose health. Freaking ridiculous.

Hating the monk life very much right now.

Except... how long does it take you to kill said horde of monsters? I haven't played my Crusader since the patch, but prior to that, it took forever in comparison to my Monk. Although, I think my Crusader only has three legendaries, and the rest are all yellow items.

Since I never found the Jekangbord, I'm tempted to craft the shield that reduces the cost of Shield Bash by 40-50%. I recall someone saying that Shield Bash's pathing isn't so broken anymore -- it used to knock your target out of the way half of the time! I'm tempted to use it since Shield Bash has a built-in charge effect, which is a nice change of pace to being a ranged Crusader with Justice (the throwing hammer move -- i.e. Thor) and Blessed Shield (the throwing shield move -- i.e. Captain America).

I also might take a peek at Lightning-based abilities. My Stone of Jordan (not equipped at the moment) has a +17% lightning damage, and I'm too cheap to enchant rings/amulets. So, it might not be a bad idea as lightning abilities normally stun, which increases your survivability even more. That's the reason why I use the Burst rune with Justice!

I was playing last night, didn't have any freezes or crashes, but my game seemed about 1/4 second out of sync. I would click on an enemy, sometimes multiple times, and suddenly the hits would come out in a flurry and dead enemy. Could have just been lag I guess but seemed sporadic instead of constant.

I've seen that sort of sporadic bits of lag, but it's just very, very random as to when it occurs. Does your latency indicator ever change when you're seeing those problems? I've had mine drop into the red with the worst value being around 1000ms.

As for the freezing, it finally seemed to subside after I restarted my machine. Maybe Blizzard is in cahoots with Microsoft to get me to finally restart after installing Windows updates... I think I left that dialog down there for about three weeks! I didn't really suspect that anything was wrong with my PC given that just about everything works fine. The only other flaky software that I use is Firefox, but Firefox is notoriously awful if it gets over 2GB of RAM used. I checked the RAM anyway, and it was fine. I also watched GPU temps while playing, and they were well within limits (highest was 68C).

Also, thanks for the comment about damage resist versus dodge, that makes a lot of sense. DR reduces all incoming damage, very evenly, dodge sometimes negates completely but you might fail to dodge 4-5-6 times or whatever and just...die.

It's also worthwhile to note that some bonuses aren't nearly as good as they seem. For example, the Monk's Mantra of Evasion states that it gives you 17% chance to dodge. So, if you had 20% dodge chance, you would expect to have 37% dodge chance, right? Unfortunately, that is not how it works. Dodge chance is multiplicative, and using the above example, you calculate it by 1 - ((1-.2) * (1-.17)), which results in .336 or 33.6% chance to dodge. Because of this, when I activate Mantra of Evasion (grants an additional 17% chance to dodge), I gain a paltry 4% chance to dodge.
 

CU

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Is it better to have +% elemental dmg or socket in your primary stat? Each primary stat is worth 1% and gems over 100 are easy to get, and +% elemental damage doesn't get anywhere near that high. But without knowing how the math works and paper dps is worthless, I don't know which is better. I wish instead of the paper dps it just listed dps for each skill / rune when you moused over them taking everything into account.
 

ScottAD

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I always go with socketing emeralds. That may be a Barb specific thing, my knowledge outside of melee classes is lacking.
 

smackababy

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Is it better to have +% elemental dmg or socket in your primary stat? Each primary stat is worth 1% and gems over 100 are easy to get, and +% elemental damage doesn't get anywhere near that high. But without knowing how the math works and paper dps is worthless, I don't know which is better. I wish instead of the paper dps it just listed dps for each skill / rune when you moused over them taking everything into account.

It depends. But generally, that elemental dmg is going to scale better, as it is added after everything. The scale, I believe, is (whatever the skill is (say it is 400% weapon damage) * weapon damage * main stat) * dmg% for that element.

So, at 500 main stat, a 280 gem is going to outweigh 20% elemental dmg, but at 8000 main stat, it won't. Same with elite damage. So, in nearly every case, at end game, elemental damage is going to be better overall.

The only items you want with sockets are chest (3), pants (2), weapon, and maybe helm if you can spare it. Any other piece has a better primary roll than an additional maximum 280 main stat.
 
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digiram

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So I was all excited about the jade set when I got home yesterday, but i find it kind of lackluster. Perhaps, that's due to it being a nerfed a little. I was hoping to clear t6 like it were normal, lol. Then, come to find out I also need a quatzecotle and another jade piece as that would take away my jade helm.

Jade is decent as is, but not as OP with pets. Anyhow, I ended up finding a quetz helm in a run, and I now need the Jade chest to truly test and compare it to my current pets build. Hopefully rng or Kadala will be kind tonight.

Also ran into the shoulder piece for helltooth as well, so I might mess with trying to figure out a zombie wall build. CD time for Zombie wall isn't that long, and I have an old mara with reduced cdr for zombie wall from back in the day when I was testing the pile on build.
 

Cappuccino

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So I was all excited about the jade set when I got home yesterday, but i find it kind of lackluster. Perhaps, that's due to it being a nerfed a little. I was hoping to clear t6 like it were normal, lol. Then, come to find out I also need a quatzecotle and another jade piece as that would take away my jade helm.

Jade is decent as is, but not as OP with pets. Anyhow, I ended up finding a quetz helm in a run, and I now need the Jade chest to truly test and compare it to my current pets build. Hopefully rng or Kadala will be kind tonight.

Also ran into the shoulder piece for helltooth as well, so I might mess with trying to figure out a zombie wall build. CD time for Zombie wall isn't that long, and I have an old mara with reduced cdr for zombie wall from back in the day when I was testing the pile on build.
I'm still 1 shotting elites in T6. Make sure you have a Sunkeeper and cold SoJ.
 

smackababy

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Also ran into the shoulder piece for helltooth as well, so I might mess with trying to figure out a zombie wall build. CD time for Zombie wall isn't that long, and I have an old mara with reduced cdr for zombie wall from back in the day when I was testing the pile on build.

I was interested in a zombie wall build, but zombie wall is really lack luster imo. I mean, maybe the poison spew will do a lot of damage (if they haven't reworked it yet), but the skill itself is kind of meh.

Even with a 1 second CD wall, it just doesn't look like it would be very useful. Maybe combined with a pet build?
 

digiram

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I'm still 1 shotting elites in T6. Make sure you have a Sunkeeper and cold SoJ.

Yeap, I have both and tested with azurewrath and sun keeper. You using jade with quetz helm or no? I think it's decent, but just cannot mess with my pets build right now. Especially for survivability. Can you link your profile cap?
 

digiram

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I was interested in a zombie wall build, but zombie wall is really lack luster imo. I mean, maybe the poison spew will do a lot of damage (if they haven't reworked it yet), but the skill itself is kind of meh.

Even with a 1 second CD wall, it just doesn't look like it would be very useful. Maybe combined with a pet build?

That would be tough though b/c I'd have to give up soj for rrog and tnt for helltooth glove. Helltooth probably needs a buff. Maybe 2k damage for zombie wall or something, lol.
 

smackababy

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That would be tough though b/c I'd have to give up soj for rrog and tnt for helltooth glove. Helltooth probably needs a buff. Maybe 2k damage for zombie wall or something, lol.

The CD is 8 seconds. Helltooth drops it to 6 seconds. A Flawless Royal gem gives 12.5% CDR in helm, plus the 10% you can get from your paragons gives a 4.65 second Wall without any additional gear. Add in another 8% for a few slots and you've got a 4 second CD pretty easy. You only need 34% to hit that.

The problem isn't so much the cool down, but the fact that Zombie Wall just isn't a good skill. Unless they significantly buff the 6 piece Helltooth bonus, it ain't worth it at all. 324% or whatever poison damage per second just isn't good enough to justify 6 (5 really) pieces.
 
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Cappuccino

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Yeap, I have both and tested with azurewrath and sun keeper. You using jade with quetz helm or no? I think it's decent, but just cannot mess with my pets build right now. Especially for survivability. Can you link your profile cap?
The Sunkeeper will always be the best for elites even if you have a 1900k SK.

Helltooth build sucks even if you have the best rolls, you can't outclass Jade and pet build.

Sure here it is
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SuperSaiyan-2251/hero/33252758

It's showing my pet build right now but if you want to see my Jade profile, feel free to add me or I can update my profile for you

Can you link yours too?

As you can see I'm trying to get 20% Physical on my Amulet, unfortunately I ran out of rubies

(Please ignore my character names lol)
 
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Cappuccino

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Why do people want the hexing pants sooo much? I have 4 of them in my stash and it's no good for my WD. Wish I could trade them.
 

Cappuccino

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Which are the hexing pants? The ones with the poison damage increase?
Just the 25% increase while moving. I'm pretty sure you can't get elemental % on the hexing pants.

EDIT - You are talking about the 'Swamp Diggers' they give you poison % Good for Carnevil build.
 
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smackababy

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Just the 25% increase while moving. I'm pretty sure you can't get elemental % on the hexing pants.

EDIT - You are talking about the 'Swamp Diggers' they give you poison % Good for Carnevil build.

Hexing pants would be really good for a WW barb. You are pretty much always moving.
 

digiram

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The Sunkeeper will always be the best for elites even if you have a 1900k SK.

Helltooth build sucks even if you have the best rolls, you can't outclass Jade and pet build.

Sure here it is
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SuperSaiyan-2251/hero/33252758

It's showing my pet build right now but if you want to see my Jade profile, feel free to add me or I can update my profile for you

Can you link yours too?

As you can see I'm trying to get 20% Physical on my Amulet, unfortunately I ran out of rubies

(Please ignore my character names lol)

Here's mine: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/digiRAMM-1258/hero/6481595

Tryin to get more cd on my physical ammy. I usally use strong arm with +physical as well.
 

pandemonium

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Except... how long does it take you to kill said horde of monsters? I haven't played my Crusader since the patch, but prior to that, it took forever in comparison to my Monk.

Oh, my crusader isn't nearly as geared as my monk... I have 18 hours played on my crusader and around 1100 toward gearing my monk (if you include all of the time spent on the AH; which to be fair, should be considered). So he doesn't kill nearly as fast. But the amount of challenge in comparison if they were similarly geared? Doesn't even compare. It's /facerollus to the maximumus.

I can easily run through T1 though.
 

BudAshes

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Well I finally decided to try going sentry with my dh and strapped on my marauder outfit, and despite no ring of grandeur and my character being only ok geared, I can do t6 if I'm careful. I still die instantly if I mess up, but I was fairly easily able to go and kill malthael. Having 5 sentries, a horde of pets and a paladin makes taking him down just a matter of avoiding stuff. Too bad farming bosses is pointless.
 

onza

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Well I finally decided to try going sentry with my dh and strapped on my marauder outfit, and despite no ring of grandeur and my character being only ok geared, I can do t6 if I'm careful. I still die instantly if I mess up, but I was fairly easily able to go and kill malthael. Having 5 sentries, a horde of pets and a paladin makes taking him down just a matter of avoiding stuff. Too bad farming bosses is pointless.

I think if you farm the correct boss the payout is good from a Gold perspective. I think Gohm is a favorite..(non-adventure mode)
 
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What's the most legs/sets you got in one Rift run?

I got 6 total in one Rift last night. 1 set source (chantodo's) and 5 legs (2 were cindercoats). Was ridiculous to say the least.

Gave away a couple pieces since they were all crap haha.
 
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