**Official eMachines M68xx Thread**

[r0guenj]

did you use just the regular 9600 driver? i have no problem with setting up and have dl'd the mobilemod already.

 

[Frightcrawler]

Question about laptop coolers...Yeah, I'm full of questions

Would it be useless to buy a laptop cooler for the M6805? The fan vents are located on the side, so I dont see how a cooler would help.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: r0guenj
did you use just the regular 9600 driver? i have no problem with setting up and have dl'd the mobilemod already.

Yeah, I pointed it to the .inf file and installed the first one it highlighted.

Originally posted by: Frightcrawler
Question about laptop coolers...Yeah, I'm full of questions

Would it be useless to buy a laptop cooler for the M6805? The fan vents are located on the side, so I dont see how a cooler would help.

There's small vents on the bottom, so I wouldn't say that one would be useless.

 

[r0guenj]

cool thanks for the info! i am going to set this up while i am at work tonight (maybe watch a few movies, play some games...)

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: r0guenj did you use just the regular 9600 driver? i have no problem with setting up and have dl'd the mobilemod already.

Yeah, I pointed it to the .inf file and installed the first one it highlighted.

Originally posted by: Frightcrawler Question about laptop coolers...Yeah, I'm full of questions Would it be useless to buy a laptop cooler for the M6805? The fan vents are located on the side, so I dont see how a cooler would help.

There's small vents on the bottom, so I wouldn't say that one would be useless.

 

[Frightcrawler]

Well..I ran a little test. When my fan was on (the one on the side), i flipped the laptop over and put my finger over the vents. Nothing perceivable.
Then I moistened my finger and put it under the vent again. I think I felt a slight breeze, but I couldnt tell (it was such a small amount of air, if any).
The only heat that comes from the bottom is from the top portion of the base (I'm guessing the processor and GPU is there because the side fans are positioned at those spots)

This leads me to believe....I don't know.

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Another fan related question: Why does the fan turn on and stay on so frequently? I am running on AC power, doing stuff like web browsing. The fan is on 89% of the time. Thanks for your help (especially MDE)

 

[MDE]

What are your power management settings? If the CPU is running full throttle, then it'll be running quite often. Mine runs 24\7 because I run Folding@Home .

 

[benz]

ahhh i hope this is NOT official.....although it is from eMachines' website....

http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_M6809

shared vid mem??!?! 9600??? what happened to the 9700/128 we were expecting from the Voodoo system?

im just gonna keep my fingers crossed until the official press release. luckily i am not gonna buy for another two months.

 

[MDE]

That shared memory is almost definately a typo. Consider it an M6807 with an upgraded CPU and hard drive.

 

[CruisinGT]

Hey guys....for those of you considering installing the newest Catalyst 4.3 drivers from ATI, here's a series of tests I ran before and after the installation.

Default Speed with original drivers (Cat3.9-3.10)

3dMark2001SE: 9142
3dMark2003(b320): 2438
Aquamark3: 19320


Video OC 420Core/234Mem* with original drivers (Cat3.9-3.10)
*Maximum stable video overclock I can attain

3dMark2001SE: 11496
3dMark2003(b320): 3075
Aquamark3: 25833


Default Speed with new Catalyst 4.3 drivers

3dMark2001SE: 9113
3dMark2003(b320): 2439
Aquamark3: 19358


Video OC 420Core/234Mem with new Catalyst 4.3 drivers

3dMark2001SE: 11475
3dMark2003(b320): 3059
Aquamark3: 25877

As you guys will notice there wasn't any obvious improvements performancewise from the original drivers to the Cat 4.3s. Of course, what you will be getting is perhaps stability improvements as many game issues has been addressed since the original drivers. So....Uuplaku, perhaps you might want to try the new drivers with Halo.

Aside from that, the new drivers allow you to save profiles so you can have a cranked up profile if you're playing an older game like UT and then a more conservative profile for more modern games. You also get the VPU Recover tab, useful when troubleshooting and I'm not sure if this was included in the original drivers but you also get a 'Rotation' tab.
Overall, I think its worth the installation of the new drivers. Happy Gaming! :beer:

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: MDE
That shared memory is almost definately a typo. Consider it an M6807 with an upgraded CPU and hard drive.

A typo!!:Q No way....something like that can't be coming from Emachines. Remember when our M6805/07s had 2.0 Ghz chips at one point??

 

[Seeratlas]

Hi all, well after reading all the posts here, I went out and bought a 6805 from CC. With all the rebates my price was 1248.72 plus tax which seems to me to be a very good deal. I have no bad pixels and the 4200 rpm Hitachi.
One thing that impresses me is the quietness of the machine. My fan is very quiet and comes on only for 20 or 30 seconds every 10 minutes or so. After using my Clevo 8500, well the quietness factor is night and day.

I noticed some of the posters did not like the screen quality. On this one the screen is razor sharp and the colors bright and vibrant. I did notice that originally both the contrast and brightness controls were turned down some but after adjustment I couldn't be happier. Dvd's are amazing.

The sound is also better than I thought it would be, the speakers can be turned up to where there is certainly no problem hearing them, and I plan to get an external 5.1 or better sound box for serious audio anyway as that std changes quite a bit.

The other thing that amazes me is the overclockability of this box. Using the files recommended by members of this forum, I've gotten the video to run stable at 459mghz, and the processor at 2140. Thus I see no good reason to worry about the not having bought the soon to be released 6809 as from what I've been able to find out, the 9700 (assuming it IS a 9700) is faster than the 9600 but largely simply because of the faster clock speeds. I guess we'll have to wait until someone can get his hands on one and test it to be sure but that seemed to be the conclusion of the tests I've seen.

All in all, this 6805 is one amazing 'deal'.

A couple of questions. As for the new video drivers, is there any real advantage? I have not had any screen freezes and the one poster's numbers indicated they were slower not faster?

Secondly I was wondering what settings you guys running 3dmark2001se were using to get such high numbers, i.e. 11's.

Lastly, I've always been a win2k type so i'm not familiar with all the 'junk' included in xp. Can you recommend a good site to find out what to turn off, strip out, etc etc. ?

thanks in advance

seer

 

[Frightcrawler]

They overclocked their card.

Furthermore, do you guys think the M6805 will fit in This or This?

They are equivalent cases, only that one is bigger than the other. I calculated the dimensions (diagonal, etc), and a problem I see is that the depth is 1 inch, whereas the m6805 is close to 2inches when closed...

 

[ShellGuy]

Well let us kill a few birds with one reply. As for Win2k i would suggest either of 2 things one reformat ur drive and install Win2k which will also releive you of the 800mhz issue when on batt power. Or you can upgrade 2 XP Pro for more security and features then revert all setings to Org win settings through Display icon. Also you can over clock with ease now just read the forums a bit and you will find the right stuff to do it with.



Will

 

[benz]

This might have been posted before, but i'm curious to what kind of battery life youre getting. Im holding out for the 6809 (i think) but im not gonna buy it if it wont last over 2.5 hours. I would rarely venture far from an AC plug, but I think theres a good chance i will sometimes be using it just for word/internet without the ac adaptor. if youre just doing this, and you adjust the power settings to give max battery life and min. performance, what kind of life are you people getting??

thanks!

 

[Frightcrawler]

If you want 2.5+ hours of battery life, I think you should consider a centrino system instead

 

[Seeratlas]

Has anyone tried pulling out the 333 chips and putting in DDR400's?
I notice the chipset says it will handle 400's.

 

[Frightcrawler]

Meh...yet another question Sorry.

Which version of clockgen should I use to overclock? Hardforums says CG-ICS950403, but there are THREE versions of that on the clockgen site!

= Confusion.

 

[MatthewF01]

Originally posted by: Frightcrawler
Meh...yet another question Sorry.

Which version of clockgen should I use to overclock? Hardforums says CG-ICS950403, but there are THREE versions of that on the clockgen site!

= Confusion.

its listing that version multiple times because its listing SPECIFIC MODELS of motherboard and which version to use...

just get ANY 03 version and youre fine. They are all the same.

If you instead selected one ending in 05, then youre uber fvcked.

 

[Frightcrawler]

Thanks. I actually downloaded the "nforce 3" version, but i just deleted it (didnt change any settings).

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: MatthewF01
its listing that version multiple times because its listing SPECIFIC MODELS of motherboard and which version to use...

just get ANY 03 version and youre fine. They are all the same.

If you instead selected one ending in 05, then youre uber fvcked.

Actually, not necessarily anymore. They've just released a new version of the 05 this month which not only supports ghosting but it actually supports HTT modifications also!! :Q I heard about it here. I then tried it out and behold......ghosting with VID,FID and HTT works!!

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: Frightcrawler
Thanks. I actually downloaded the "nforce 3" version, but i just deleted it (didnt change any settings).

Actually that is probably the worst choice out of all of them you could have made. Our mainboards are based on the K8T800 chipsets (from VIA) and not the very different nForce chipsets (from Nvidia).

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: Seeratlas

The other thing that amazes me is the overclockability of this box. Using the files recommended by members of this forum, I've gotten the video to run stable at 459mghz, and the processor at 2140. Thus I see no good reason to worry about the not having bought the soon to be released 6809 as from what I've been able to find out, the 9700 (assuming it IS a 9700) is faster than the 9600 but largely simply because of the faster clock speeds.

Unfortunately from what I've read so far, if their initial specs are the least bit valid then I don't think the 6809 will include the Mobility 9700 chips. But just to correct you on that last statement, the original 9700 had a completely different core than the newer 9600 chips. The main difference between both is that the original 9700 core used a 256-bit memory interface and 8 rendering pipelines while the 9600 chips only uses a 128-bit memory interface with 4 rendering pipelines. As far as clockspeeds, their both similar except that the 9600s were built to be pushed higher but due to the original 9700 efficient design, it will and still outperforms the 9600 series. However, I'm not quite sure if all this still applies to the newer Mobility 9700 chips.

Originally posted by: Seeratlas

All in all, this 6805 is one amazing 'deal'.

Agreed. I feel the same way!!

Originally posted by: Seeratlas

A couple of questions. As for the new video drivers, is there any real advantage? I have not had any screen freezes and the one poster's numbers indicated they were slower not faster?

Yes, performancewise it wasn't very spectacular except for the Aquamark tests which confirms what ATI said about this release as it was supposed to increase performance on DX9 based games. The scores were actually very negligible between both and shouldn't be taken as a performance hit. If you're not experiencing any glitches in any of the games you play then perhaps this patch isn't for you, however, ATI has done a few stability/glitch improvements with many games since the Cat3.9s. And as I said earlier, they've also included other features in recent patches that was not bundled with original Cat3.9. Certainly not any 'Gotta have killer features' but I've gotten used to the 'Profiles' one quite nicely.

Originally posted by: Seeratlas

Secondly I was wondering what settings you guys running 3dmark2001se were using to get such high numbers, i.e. 11's.

If you've been able to overclock your 'video to run stable at 459mghz, and the processor at 2140', then you should have no trouble getting your 3dMarks in the 11s and perhaps even to the 12s as I wasn't even overclocking my prossie at the time. I kept everything on 3dMarks2001SE at default with no AA/AF enabled.

Originally posted by: Seeratlas
Lastly, I've always been a win2k type so i'm not familiar with all the 'junk' included in xp. Can you recommend a good site to find out what to turn off, strip out, etc etc. ?

I've found this site to have good information on that aspect in the past.

 

[Frightcrawler]

Without voltage increase, I could only get it up to 1843 mhZ with 330/200 video with newest Omega drivers
Ah well, it's good enough I guess.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: CruisinGT

Originally posted by: Seeratlas

The other thing that amazes me is the overclockability of this box. Using the files recommended by members of this forum, I've gotten the video to run stable at 459mghz, and the processor at 2140. Thus I see no good reason to worry about the not having bought the soon to be released 6809 as from what I've been able to find out, the 9700 (assuming it IS a 9700) is faster than the 9600 but largely simply because of the faster clock speeds.

Unfortunately from what I've read so far, if their initial specs are the least bit valid then I don't think the 6809 will include the Mobility 9700 chips. But just to correct you on that last statement, the original 9700 had a completely different core than the newer 9600 chips. The main difference between both is that the original 9700 core used a 256-bit memory interface while the 9600 chips only uses a 128-bit memory interface. As far as clockspeeds, their both similar except that the 9600s were built to be pushed higher but due to the original 9700 efficient design, it will and still outperforms the 9600 series. However, I'm not quite sure if all this still applies to the newer Mobility 9700 chips.

The Mobility 9700 is basically a mobile 9600XT.

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: Frightcrawler
Without voltage increase, I could only get it up to 1843 mhZ with 330/200 video with newest Omega drivers
Ah well, it's good enough I guess.

You haven't tried overclocking your video Mem yet, have you? Surely, you can do better than default, can't you??