**Official eMachines M68xx Thread**

[SgtStik]

I am looking for the pics on disassembly, or some instructions. I want to get to the consealed ram slot. Can anyone help me on this?... thx

 

[SgtStik]

 

[redpriest_]

The issue with running more than 2 sticks at once could be solved via BIOS by relaxing some of the memory timings; unfortunately this functionality is not exposed to us.

What we can fix is that 800 mhz issue. Quite simple really - download the powernow update from AMD and install in win2000 compat mode. It lets you set this in the powernow tab - it's worked for me.

 

[gweilo8888]

You don't need to use Win2K stuff to fix it - there is a WinXP-specific fix available from Microsoft which works just fine. Read a few pages back in this thread...

 

[ShellGuy]

SgtStick go here and look at the posts by wearshark he has been doing alot with his 6805 including upping the processor to a 3400+.

Will

 

[kovert]

Anyone know of B&M stores with the M6809 in stock yet? That looks like the machine I'll be aiming for in a week or two.

 

[Darkenreaper57]

Has anyone here had much luck with Windows XP 64-Bit Edition? I downloaded and installed the trial provided by microsoft on a separate partition, and i cannot find the drivers i need.

Someone mentioned the VIA Hyperion 64-Bit Drivers; i installed these but they didnt not seem to work. My audio driver was not even installed (i assume the hyperion drivers are supposed to install this). I even attempted to manually install via the Device Manager and pointing to the corresponding *.inf file. No luck.

Someone at school told me that i SHOULD be able to use 32-bit drivers with 64-bit XP. I tried this...no luck. Then someone else told me that there might/is (forgot which) a service pack or fix for this. Is this true? I would be happy for now if i could use my existing 32-bit drivers...as it is i dont even have drivers for the radon 9600 (yeah, i know that ATI doesnt plan on releasing until the OS debuts, but still it would be nice to get something that works for games).

I would also like to get the integrated broadcom wireless card to workn if at all possible.

Thanks for any help.

 

[gweilo8888]

Forget the fact that drivers for basic things like WLAN and video aren't available for XP 64-bit yet, there are basic features missing that make it not ready for public use yet.

Features Not Supported in Windows XP 64-Bit Edition
A number of features in Windows XP Professional are not included with Windows XP 64-Bit Edition. The following is a list of these features.

Digital Media
The following digital media features are not included with Windows XP 64-Bit Edition:
Digital video disc (DVD) video playback
CD Recording
Kodak Imaging Accessory
Windows Media? Player
A subset of Windows Media? Technologies
DirectMusic®
Microsoft TV Technologies for Windows®
Video mixing renderer (VMR)
NetMeeting®
IEEE 1394 audio
Fax
Subsystems and Protocols

Windows XP 64-Bit Edition does not provide support for a number of older subsystems and transport protocols, including the following:
Microsoft® MS-DOS® subsystem
OS/2 subsystems
16-bit subsystems
Portable Operating System Interface for UNIX (POSIX) subsystem
Legacy transport protocols
Internetwork Packet Exchange/Sequenced Packet Exchange (IPX/SPX) LAN and WAN
AppleTalk Protocol LAN
Services for Macintosh
Data Link Control (DLC) LAN
NetBIOS Enhanced User Interface (NetBEUI) LAN
Service Advertising Protocol (SAP) Agent for Server
Internetwork Packet Exchange (IPX) router
Infrared Data Association (IrDA)
Open Shortest Path First (OSPF)
Network BIOS (NetBIOS) gateway
Mobile Computing

Windows XP 64-Bit Edition does not provide support for features aimed primarily at users of portable computers. The following features are not included:
Hot docking/undocking
PC Card
IrDA
Terminal Services client for Handheld PC
Power Management

System Restore
The System Restore feature is not supported in Windows XP 64-Bit Edition.

Networking and Communications
The following networking and communications features are not included in Windows XP 64-Bit Edition:
Internet Locator Service (ILS)
MSN? Internet Access client
Message Queuing (MSMQ) Level 8 Listener

Windows XP 64-bit is intended for businesses to evaluate, and programmers to prepare their programs - it is not ready to use as your daily OS, and you're nuts if you try to!

 

[r0guenj]

does anyone have any suggestions for install order?

i was thinking:
xp sp1
via hyperions
lan/wireless
modem
sound
windows update

and then ghosting the whole shebang so that i can oc the cpu and vid (which i have gotten 2001mhz cpu 420/230 video stable i plan on retesting this under a heavier load though)

 

[MDE]

gweilo8888, you quoted the specs for the Intel Itanium version of XP-64. The official name for the AMD64 version of XP is Windows XP for 64-bit Extended Systems (or something very similar).

Darkenreaper57, you can't use 32 bit drivers with the 64 bit version of XP. There's no ATI or wireless LAN drivers for XP-64 trust me, I looked .

Roguenj, I just install things in whatever order I feel like and it seems to work for me.

 

[gweilo8888]

Originally posted by: MDE
gweilo8888, you quoted the specs for the Intel Itanium version of XP-64. The official name for the AMD64 version of XP is Windows XP for 64-bit Extended Systems (or something very similar).

I listed what Microsoft's site listed - their site is confusingly laid out, listing information for 64-bit for Itanium and Athlon / Opteron side-by-side without specifying which version it pertains to.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.asp

If you can find a feature comparison of the Athlon / Opteron version compared with 32-bit XP, I'd love to see it...

 

[MDE]

Link

You won't find much because it's still in beta testing.

 

[gweilo8888]

Yes, I'd found that already thanks. For such a long document, it contains remarkably little real information, just lots of marketing. I can't be bothered downloading and trying an OS that may or may not half half the features of the OS it replaces...

 

[MDE]

bump

 

[jai6638]

what are the average idling temps and temps at load of the cpu????


thanks

 

[alexruiz]

Originally posted by: Darkenreaper57
Has anyone here had much luck with Windows XP 64-Bit Edition? I downloaded and installed the trial provided by microsoft on a separate partition, and i cannot find the drivers i need.

Someone mentioned the VIA Hyperion 64-Bit Drivers; i installed these but they didnt not seem to work. My audio driver was not even installed (i assume the hyperion drivers are supposed to install this). I even attempted to manually install via the Device Manager and pointing to the corresponding *.inf file. No luck.

Someone at school told me that i SHOULD be able to use 32-bit drivers with 64-bit XP. I tried this...no luck. Then someone else told me that there might/is (forgot which) a service pack or fix for this. Is this true? I would be happy for now if i could use my existing 32-bit drivers...as it is i dont even have drivers for the radon 9600 (yeah, i know that ATI doesnt plan on releasing until the OS debuts, but still it would be nice to get something that works for games).

I would also like to get the integrated broadcom wireless card to workn if at all possible.

Thanks for any help.

Dual boot with Win2K SP4. As MDE said, it is a beta, it "pauses" a lot..... but for media encoding it is at least 10% faster even as beta with the same 32 bits applications.

Alex

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: gweilo8888
Thanks for the suggestion, might have to try it. Anybody have any ideas on my WLAN problem above?

First question-
Just to clarify, when you press Fn-F2, does the "e" light near the touchpad turn blue? If not, are any of the icons by it lit at any time (like the little plug or the cylinder?

Second question-
On the taskbar, when you right click the Broadcom Wireless Network Utility (the upside-down 'V', can you select the 'Enable Radio' option? If it gives you an error message, press Fn-F2 again and try the 'Enable Radio' option again. Does the little 'x' by it ever disappear??

 

[gweilo8888]

Originally posted by: CruisinGT


First question-
Just to clarify, when you press Fn-F2, does the "e" light near the touchpad turn blue? If not, are any of the icons by it lit at any time (like the little plug or the cylinder?

Presuming that I start off with my wireless disabled (and hence the '((e))' light off), pressing Fn-F2 does nothing - it doesn't enable the wireless LAN, and it doesn't turn the '((e))' light on. If I start with my wireless LAN enabled, and the '((e))' light already on, again pressing Fn-F2 does nothing - it doesn't disable the wireless LAN, and it doesn't turn the '((e))' light off.

Second question-
On the taskbar, when you right click the Broadcom Wireless Network Utility (the upside-down 'V', can you select the 'Enable Radio' option? If it gives you an error message, press Fn-F2 again and try the 'Enable Radio' option again. Does the little 'x' by it ever disappear??

Yes, this is the only way I can turn my wireless LAN on and off. If I select 'Enable Radio', the '((e))' light turns on and (usually) my wireless LAN starts up fine (although I've noticed that if I reenable it within a few seconds of disabling it, the wireless LAN doesn't work even though it says it is enabled and the '((e)) light is lit - disabling it, waiting 5-10 seconds, and then re-enabling it fixes this).

I'd really like to get the Fn-F2 shortcut working, as it is much quicker to press the key combination, than to move the mouse pointer to my system tray, wait for the menu to pop up, move the mouse pointer again and click on 'Enable / Disable'. Does anybody know if there's a driver that controls the Fn-Fx button combinations, or are these part of the hardware (perhaps controlled by the BIOS)?

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: gweilo8888

Yes, this is the only way I can turn my wireless LAN on and off. If I select 'Enable Radio', the '((e))' light turns on and (usually) my wireless LAN starts up fine (although I've noticed that if I reenable it within a few seconds of disabling it, the wireless LAN doesn't work even though it says it is enabled and the '((e)) light is lit - disabling it, waiting 5-10 seconds, and then re-enabling it fixes this).

I'd really like to get the Fn-F2 shortcut working, as it is much quicker to press the key combination, than to move the mouse pointer to my system tray, wait for the menu to pop up, move the mouse pointer again and click on 'Enable / Disable'. Does anybody know if there's a driver that controls the Fn-Fx button combinations, or are these part of the hardware (perhaps controlled by the BIOS)?

Yeah, I definitely understand. I would want to get that resolved also if it happened to me. So now, if I get you right, none of your Fn-Fx buttons are functioning??

Also, are any of the other blue icons lighting up?

 

[gweilo8888]

All of the other Fn-Fx buttons are working just fine, including the (unlabelled, but documented in the manual) Fn-F1 to turn on/off the power and status LEDs. The only one that doesn't work is Fn-F2. All of the LED lights also work just fine.

 

[jdogg707]

 

[CruisinGT]

Originally posted by: gweilo8888
All of the other Fn-Fx buttons are working just fine, including the (unlabelled, but documented in the manual) Fn-F1 to turn on/off the power and status LEDs. The only one that doesn't work is Fn-F2. All of the LED lights also work just fine.

I take it you can go into the BIOS using the F2 button, right?

Also, what setting do you currently have your RF power state set to in the BIOS??

 

[gweilo8888]

Yep, F2 to get into the BIOS works fine. I can't remember what it is set to currently, but I've tried the available settings to no avail.

 

[MDE]

Anyone have the backlight on their screen flickering?

 

[fishsauce]

Originally posted by: MDE
Anyone have the backlight on their screen flickering?

mine does that, but after i turned down the brightness a little the screen stops flickering. I'm not sure what the problem is though.