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glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Guys, I need your advice... Keeper PPR league, by the way...

I have:
QB Eli Manning, NYG QB
RB Jeremy Langford, Chi RB
RB Spencer Ware, KC
WR Brandon Marshall, NYJ WR
WR DeSean Jackson, Wsh WR
TE Jordan Reed, Wsh TE
OP DeAngelo Williams, Pit RB
LB Bobby Wagner, Sea LB
DL Clinton McDonald, TB DT
DB Johnathan Cyprien, Jax S
DP Jerrell Freeman, Chi LB
D/ST Steelers D/ST D/ST
K Matt Bryant, Atl K
Bench Tom Brady, NE QB
Bench Gary Barnidge, Cle TE
Bench Isaiah Crowell, Cle RB
Bench Su'a Cravens, Wsh S, LB
Bench Leonard Williams, NYJ DE
Bench DeAndre Levy, Det LB
Bench Mohamed Sanu, Atl WR Q
Bench Deone Bucannon, Ari LB
Bench Jaye Howard, KC DT
Bench Markus Wheaton, Pit WR Q

He has:
QB Blake Bortles, Jax QB
RB LeSean McCoy, Buf RB
RB Justin Forsett, Bal RB
WR Antonio Brown, Pit WR
WR Tyler Lockett, Sea WR
TE Antonio Gates, SD TE
OP Kirk Cousins, Wsh QB
LB Derrick Johnson, KC LB
DL Connor Barwin, Phi DE
DB Malcolm Jenkins, Phi S
DP Thomas Davis, Car LB
D/ST Chiefs D/ST D/ST
K Dustin Hopkins, Wsh K
Bench Jimmy Graham, Sea TE
Bench Stefon Diggs, Min WR
Bench Devin Funchess, Car WR
Bench Redskins D/ST D/ST
Bench Ryan Kerrigan, Wsh LB
Bench T.J. Ward, Den S
Bench Josh Lambo, SD K
Bench Cameron Heyward, Pit DE
Bench Aqib Talib, Den CB
Bench Mike Tolbert, Car RB
Bench Dion Lewis*, NE RB

The trade I am wanting to make official, which he says he is seriously considering and wants me to send him is:

Trade:
WR Brandon Marshall, NYJ WR
TE Jordan Reed, Wsh TE
RB DeAngelo Williams, Pit RB

For:
WR Antonio Brown, Pit WR
TE Antonio Gates, SD TE
RB LeSean McCoy, Buf RB

Is this a good trade?

If that offer is on the table then close ATOT right now and go accept that trade before the other guy sobers up. That deal is highway robbery for you.
 
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eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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If that offer is on the table then close ATOT right now and go accept that trade before the other guy sobers up. That deal is highway robbery for you.
He's the commissioner. He processed the trade today.

It's a decent trade for him, but a killer trade for me. It's a keeper league (I get to keep 2 players), and I have Brady and now, I have Antonio Brown. Next year's draft is gonna be a cakewalk
 

cloude27

Senior member
Sep 29, 2003
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He's serious.

I think it a really good trade for you. You get the best player in the deal, plus McCoy has more season long value over Williams.

Although I agree with Maudib, I do not thing he seriously considering the deal...
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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I think it a really good trade for you. You get the best player in the deal, plus McCoy has more season long value over Williams.

Although I agree with Maudib, I do not thing he seriously considering the deal...
He was serious. The deal went through this morning.

Let me tell you why I'm so boosted about this:
- If Brown gets injured, I have Wheaton on my bench to take over as Big Ben's WR1.
- LeSean is not going to be running by committee, unlike Williams once Bell comes back.
- Antonio Gates will be getting more passes now that SD is down a WR. Also, now that RG3 is out of the lineup in Cleveland, Barnidge and has rapport with McCown (as was evident last season), he will be getting more passes.
- I have two players to keep on my team going into next season's draft. So, basically, unless something goes terribly wrong with Brown and Brady, I get to go into the 2017 draft with Brady and Brown already on my roster.

I'm sitting here feeling like:
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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So, I just proposed another trade to a different owner.

He has Matt Forte, Jamaal Charles, and Todd Gurley.

I have LeSean McCoy, Spencer Ware, Jeremy Langford, and Isaiah Crowell...

I'm offering him Spencer Ware for Matt Forte.

Upside for him = Handcuffed security at RB.
Upside for me = Matt Forte's schedule looks pretty easy, and he's looking to be a PPR stud.

I'll let you know how it goes.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
Here's a head scratcher. Owner proposed this to me:

I give him:
David Johnson, Ari RB

He trades:
LeGarrette Blount, NE RB
Dak Prescott, Dal QB

sounds awful for me, right? Well, we now have an OP slot and 2 FLEX spots, so essentially everyone has 2 starting QBs in their lineup. THe league is so deep (14) that there are no starters available. I drafted RG3 late as my OP fill in. Figured, hey, he should be good for at least 12 points, right? LOL.

anyway, our teams:
(We do IDP, so I will leave out those 8 slots)

Me:
QB T Taylor
RB D Johnson
WR AJ Green
WR Golden Tate
TE Jack Doyle
FLEX Jonathan Stewart
FLEX Kenny Britt
OP Alfred Morris
K Vinatieri

B Jimmy Graham TE
B Devante Parker WR
B Tim Hightower RB
+ 3x IDP

IR RG3


Him:
QB Brees
RB McCoy
WR Maclin
WR Crabtree
TE Ebron
FL C Hyde
FL Blount
OP Cousins
K Crosby

B Gore
B Fuller WR
B Coates WR
B Prescott
B Doctson WR
B Barner RB

IR Lewis RB
IR Eifert TE


I don't like the idea of trading my #1 for another flex RB, and my entire roster will be FLEX positions for RB after that (I believe Johnson will be the top RB at the end of the year, barring another superhero performance from Peterson. Gurley is great, but D's will be stacking the box against him because the Rams are just awful and have no passing game).

I'm really hurt with that OP slot, but I think I would be giving up too much for these options. I think Prescott will be OK, but still an unknown quantity. My TE slot is a huge issue, too

I'm thinking to respond with an offer for Blount and Cousins, or just reject it. Thoughts?
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
25,383
1,013
126
Here's a head scratcher. Owner proposed this to me:

I give him:
David Johnson, Ari RB

He trades:
LeGarrette Blount, NE RB
Dak Prescott, Dal QB

sounds awful for me, right? Well, we now have an OP slot and 2 FLEX spots, so essentially everyone has 2 starting QBs in their lineup. THe league is so deep (14) that there are no starters available. I drafted RG3 late as my OP fill in. Figured, hey, he should be good for at least 12 points, right? LOL.

anyway, our teams:
(We do IDP, so I will leave out those 8 slots)

Me:
QB T Taylor
RB D Johnson
WR AJ Green
WR Golden Tate
TE Jack Doyle
FLEX Jonathan Stewart
FLEX Kenny Britt
OP Alfred Morris
K Vinatieri

B Jimmy Graham TE
B Devante Parker WR
B Tim Hightower RB
+ 3x IDP

IR RG3


Him:
QB Brees
RB McCoy
WR Maclin
WR Crabtree
TE Ebron
FL C Hyde
FL Blount
OP Cousins
K Crosby

B Gore
B Fuller WR
B Coates WR
B Prescott
B Doctson WR
B Barner RB

IR Lewis RB
IR Eifert TE


I don't like the idea of trading my #1 for another flex RB, and my entire roster will be FLEX positions for RB after that (I believe Johnson will be the top RB at the end of the year, barring another superhero performance from Peterson. Gurley is great, but D's will be stacking the box against him because the Rams are just awful and have no passing game)

I'm really hurt with that OP slot, but I think I would be giving up too much for these options. I think Prescott will be OK, but still an unknown quantity. My TE slot is a huge issue, too

I'm thinking to respond with an offer for Blount and Cousins, or just reject it. Thoughts?

I'd reject that offer. Blount and Cousins aren't worth giving up DJ for. I'd counter something along the lines of DJ + Britt + DVP for Hyde, Dak, and Fuller. You're giving up the best player in the deal and one with high upside in DVP but getting back 3 solid starters in return. The other owner is giving up 2 guys on his bench and one starter (Hyde) who he can replace with Gore from his bench or DVP from your trade.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
I'd reject that offer. Blount and Cousins aren't worth giving up DJ for. I'd counter something along the lines of DJ + Britt + DVP for Hyde, Dak, and Fuller. You're giving up the best player in the deal and one with high upside in DVP but getting back 3 solid starters in return. The other owner is giving up 2 guys on his bench and one starter (Hyde) who he can replace with Gore from his bench or DVP from your trade.

hmm, I like that idea. I forgot to mention that we are non-PPR, so that does reduce some of the value of DJ, and is neutral with Blount who can only catch ham sandwiches, apparently.

It's always difficult for me giving up a top pick that I really like, even though I tell myself every year that I'd love to make such a deal. The most recent season that I was as happy with a pick as DJ, was about 2011 or 12, whenever that was, that I picked up Foster in the 3rd round (couldn't believe he was still hanging around) and that was his first monster year (the follow up season to when he broke out the 2nd half of the previous season--so pretty much like DJ right now, if all falls into place). That is also the last year that I won the championship.
 
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gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
30,740
452
126
Ugh... can't figure out who to start at WR. I can start 4 total with flex positions and have:

-Deandre Hopkins
-Larry Fitz
-Brandon Marshall (already played and locked)
-Sterling Shepard
-Amari Cooper
-Randal Cobb

I have 3 spots left and can't make up my mind. Fitz had a good week 1 and is playing TB so that seems like a good choice. Shepard also has a good matchup at NO. Hopkins is good but he still has a new QB and they have more receivers now. Cooper had a good week 1 too. No idea what to do. Right now I'm sitting Cooper and Cobb

Edit: Now I'm sitting Shepard and Cobb... I just don't know
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
I've always liked Cobb, but never in fantasy. I recall him having one good fantasy year, but he's otherwise very sporadic. I want to say his TD totals ave about 3-5 the last couple of years. He's probably decent in a PPR league, though.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
30,740
452
126
I've always liked Cobb, but never in fantasy. I recall him having one good fantasy year, but he's otherwise very sporadic. I want to say his TD totals ave about 3-5 the last couple of years. He's probably decent in a PPR league, though.

Yeah, he was a last WR pick for bench warming.

I'm feeling good about my picks. Unless Cobb has an amazing game, or Shepard has a great 2nd half I made the right calls
 

pete6032

Diamond Member
Dec 3, 2010
7,579
3,124
136
Mike Wallace is on fire through 2 games. I started him this week over T.Y. Hilton versus the Broncos secondary. We'll see if that decision pans out after the Colts finish. Wallace had 42 yards receiving and 2 TD today.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
25,206
3
81
www.integratedssr.com
Here's a head scratcher. Owner proposed this to me:

I give him:
David Johnson, Ari RB

He trades:
LeGarrette Blount, NE RB
Dak Prescott, Dal QB

sounds awful for me, right? Well, we now have an OP slot and 2 FLEX spots, so essentially everyone has 2 starting QBs in their lineup. THe league is so deep (14) that there are no starters available. I drafted RG3 late as my OP fill in. Figured, hey, he should be good for at least 12 points, right? LOL.

anyway, our teams:
(We do IDP, so I will leave out those 8 slots)

Me:
QB T Taylor
RB D Johnson
WR AJ Green
WR Golden Tate
TE Jack Doyle
FLEX Jonathan Stewart
FLEX Kenny Britt
OP Alfred Morris
K Vinatieri

B Jimmy Graham TE
B Devante Parker WR
B Tim Hightower RB
+ 3x IDP

IR RG3


Him:
QB Brees
RB McCoy
WR Maclin
WR Crabtree
TE Ebron
FL C Hyde
FL Blount
OP Cousins
K Crosby

B Gore
B Fuller WR
B Coates WR
B Prescott
B Doctson WR
B Barner RB

IR Lewis RB
IR Eifert TE


I don't like the idea of trading my #1 for another flex RB, and my entire roster will be FLEX positions for RB after that (I believe Johnson will be the top RB at the end of the year, barring another superhero performance from Peterson. Gurley is great, but D's will be stacking the box against him because the Rams are just awful and have no passing game).

I'm really hurt with that OP slot, but I think I would be giving up too much for these options. I think Prescott will be OK, but still an unknown quantity. My TE slot is a huge issue, too

I'm thinking to respond with an offer for Blount and Cousins, or just reject it. Thoughts?
I wouldn't take that offer at all. I'd scout that waiver wire, man. A bunch of RB went down this week. There are bound to be some quality backups. Also, try proposing some trades with other owners.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
I wouldn't take that offer at all. I'd scout that waiver wire, man. A bunch of RB went down this week. There are bound to be some quality backups. Also, try proposing some trades with other owners.

I need a QB, though. the problem with our league is that everyone now has 2 QB starting, because of that OP slot, so they aren't just backups/handcuffs for other owners. This means there isn't a single viable QB available. My OP slot was RGdipshit because I idiotically hoped that he would manage to survive at least 5 or more games. Oh well.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
3,991
172
106
Mike Wallace is on fire through 2 games. I started him this week over T.Y. Hilton versus the Broncos secondary. We'll see if that decision pans out after the Colts finish. Wallace had 42 yards receiving and 2 TD today.

Good call.

I had AZ D and Gano in one league where I pwned, then got pwned in another league against an opponent with the same 2 players.
 

pete6032

Diamond Member
Dec 3, 2010
7,579
3,124
136
Which of these players has the least upside?

Derek Carr
Russell Wilson
Mike Wallace
Rashad Jennings
Michael Floyd
DeVante Parker
Travis Benjamin
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
25,206
3
81
www.integratedssr.com
I need a QB, though. the problem with our league is that everyone now has 2 QB starting, because of that OP slot, so they aren't just backups/handcuffs for other owners. This means there isn't a single viable QB available. My OP slot was RGdipshit because I idiotically hoped that he would manage to survive at least 5 or more games. Oh well.
yeah, i thought he was gonna have a good season. he was my deep sleeper pick in a few leagues i'm in. oh well.

i'd get carson wentz. i think he'll do some damage after the bye week. keep your eye on blaine gabbert.
 

cloude27

Senior member
Sep 29, 2003
834
0
71
Which side of the trade would you rather have?

Langford/E. Sanders or Starks/Watkins
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
yeah, i thought he was gonna have a good season. he was my deep sleeper pick in a few leagues i'm in. oh well.

i'd get carson wentz. i think he'll do some damage after the bye week. keep your eye on blaine gabbert.

no seriously, all starters are gone. 14 teams in the league with at least 2 QB per team (some drafted 3 or even 4) means all starters are gone from week 1. Yes, this means someone actually drafted Blaine Gabbert.
All I have to choose for this week on waiver/FA are NE's 3rd string Brissett (2 weeks only) and Hoyer (1 week) or whoever is going to filling in next week in Cleveland. ...and it will probably have to be waiver picks because that's how desperate the QB situation is.

Oh, and everyone wants my Johnson:

got another offer for Rivers and and Tavon Austin. Yeah, I would totally take Rivers, but might as well not even bother with Tavon as I'm rather stacked at WR. But of course, now it's even harder to send Johnson away, because Stewart is now out 2+ weeks with a hammy...and not like he is great for points anyway.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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www.integratedssr.com
no seriously, all starters are gone. 14 teams in the league with at least 2 QB per team (some drafted 3 or even 4) means all starters are gone from week 1. Yes, this means someone actually drafted Blaine Gabbert.
All I have to choose for this week on waiver/FA are NE's 3rd string Brissett (2 weeks only) and Hoyer (1 week) or whoever is going to filling in next week in Cleveland. ...and it will probably have to be waiver picks because that's how desperate the QB situation is.

Oh, and everyone wants my Johnson:

got another offer for Rivers and and Tavon Austin. Yeah, I would totally take Rivers, but might as well not even bother with Tavon as I'm rather stacked at WR. But of course, now it's even harder to send Johnson away, because Stewart is now out 2+ weeks with a hammy...and not like he is great for points anyway.

Gotta go with the Browns QB, then. He might have something that defenses haven't seen film on and he might be there for longer than Hoyer.
 
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