Why wouldn't you go back two years? And OSU lost 3 starters last year, not 1 (click on my link above). 11 players in two years is a lot of talent for any talent, especially one that played for a national championship game.
Why wouldn't you go back two years? And OSU lost 3 starters last year, not 1 (click on my link above). 11 players in two years is a lot of talent for any talent, especially one that played for a national championship game.Originally posted by: Train
It became a rebuilding year the second USC went up by 30 over OSU. Prior to that it was not, and Pryor was going to be the senior QB's backup. After that, Pryor was made starter to start his Jedi training.
But I would hardly call it a shadow of the 2006 team. They returned EVERY possible senior except 1 (Gholston) for this year. (I like how SP33Demon had to go back 2 years to try and make a point)
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Um, look at how many people have left OSU to go to the NFL in the past 2 years... 11 to be exact. This team is a mere shadow of the powerhouse team that played UF in the NCG.Originally posted by: Spineshank
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Tressel is an idiot for starting Pryor? They're in a rebuilding year and Pryor has more talent, there's no reason to start Boeckman. In any case, you'll eat your words when OSU makes it to the championship game in < 3 years with Pryor. Typical fairweather fan.Originally posted by: Spineshank
OSU should have won. The problem is Tressel is an idiot for starting Pryor and not Boeckman. I think OSU would have gone undefeated or 1 loss if this would have been the case all season.
I also think the reason why the Big Ten does bad in bowl games is cause of the climate. They pratice in the cold weather while basically every other BCS team has warmer weather. I could be totally wrong but just a thought.
Also the Big Ten doesnt have that many real good coaches. You have Tressel and Paterno..i dont want to comment on Rodriguez yet. But look at the Big 12 or the SEC..they have better coaches.
5 years ago the SEC was the laughing stock and the Big Ten was top dog...times have changed..big deal..stop acting like the Big Ten has been terrible for decades.
RE: climate, that definitely plays a factor as well as recruiting.
They returned almost the entire team back from last year..and they are in a rebuilding year? Pryor is talented (ive seen him play) but he wasnt ready for this year. Even an OSU alum who i work with came in this morning and said the same damn thing to me.
Pryor wasn't ready? How do you figure, the only bad play that *may* have cost them a slightly better bowl was in the 4th quarter, 3rd and 1 leading 6-3 over Penn State when he fumbled on the QB sneak by not protecting the ball. But then a few plays later, OSU shot themselves in the foot anyway with pass interference; they still had a chance to win by stopping PSU but their D choked. Then Penn State easily scored to win the game. In that game, Pryor almost double Penn State's QB in passing yards (did throw 1 INT) but the problem came down to OSU's run D giving up 4yd/carry to Royster, so PSU won the possession time by over 4 minutes. Not all Pryor's fault.
However, who cost Ohio State the USC thumping? Boeckman, not Pryor. He was the one that: threw the INT return, threw a 2nd that set up another score, fumbled after a sack that set up another score, and was in total sacked FOUR times (um, get rid of the ball if you see the pocket collapsing, don't take the sack) to Pryor's one. In addition OSU didn't have Beanie Wells so no way in hell they were beating USC and going to any title game. No fcking way with that team, USC outclassed them in every category.
Last, who had the comeback win against Wisconsin? Oh yeah, Pryor: #14 OSU comeback win over #18 Wisconsin. It's convenient to scapegoat a whole season on a rookie who only played 9 games, but in reality it was the TEAM that choked, not Pryor. At the most you can blame the PSU game on him (1 play doesn't decide a whole game) but even then it wouldn't have gotten you to the NCGame without beating USC.
You guys should be thankful you have such a young weapon like Pryor and even made it to a BCS Bowl after you didn't even win your division. Count your blessings and be glad you get to watch a QB that now has big game experience and also ridiculous talent (4.3 speed).
And despite losing a heisman trophy winner and two star recievers they were back the next year? And Ranked as high as #1 in preseason polls the year after that....Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Why wouldn't you go back two years? And OSU lost 3 starters last year, not 1 (click on my link above). 11 players in two years is a lot of talent for any talent, especially one that played for a national championship game.Originally posted by: Train
It became a rebuilding year the second USC went up by 30 over OSU. Prior to that it was not, and Pryor was going to be the senior QB's backup. After that, Pryor was made starter to start his Jedi training.
But I would hardly call it a shadow of the 2006 team. They returned EVERY possible senior except 1 (Gholston) for this year. (I like how SP33Demon had to go back 2 years to try and make a point)
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Are the buckeyes ever planning on winning a bowl game again?
Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Are the buckeyes ever planning on winning a bowl game again?
Funny, something like this always come from the same people who say OSU fans are assholes. Go figure.
Not total "rebuilding", but minor due to Beanie (first 1000+ yard year) and Pryor on offense (first year of Pryor with senior Robiske). The defense was pretty mature, yes.Originally posted by: Train
And despite losing a heisman trophy winner and two star recievers they were back the next year? And Ranked as high as #1 in preseason polls the year after that....Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Why wouldn't you go back two years? And OSU lost 3 starters last year, not 1 (click on my link above). 11 players in two years is a lot of talent for any talent, especially one that played for a national championship game.Originally posted by: Train
It became a rebuilding year the second USC went up by 30 over OSU. Prior to that it was not, and Pryor was going to be the senior QB's backup. After that, Pryor was made starter to start his Jedi training.
But I would hardly call it a shadow of the 2006 team. They returned EVERY possible senior except 1 (Gholston) for this year. (I like how SP33Demon had to go back 2 years to try and make a point)
tell me again how that is rebuilding?
TextCOLUMBUS -- It will be No. 1 Ohio State against No. 2 Texas in the Jan. 5 Fiesta Bowl. No, that's not a misprint.
It's the way the schools are positioned in the current 2009 recruiting rankings on the Scout.com Web site, with LSU, Oklahoma and Alabama rounding out the top five, in that order.
OSU's 24-man class includes four five-star recruits: running back Jaamal Berry, of Miami, Fla.; defensive end Melvin Fellows, of Garfield Heights; linebacker Dorian Bell, of Monroeville, Pa.; and defensive tackle Johnny Simon, of Youngstown. Thirteen other verbal commitments have received four stars.