Official Fury X specs

[Madpacket]

I hope I'm wrong but I doubt the Führer will be faster than an overclocked 980 TI. I'm not too concerned about the memory limit considering the newer lossless compression techniques. I bet if it does win at all it'll be at 4K resolutions due to the stacked memory.

Stock closed loop water cooling is nice though, should keep things quiet especially when pushed.

Can't wait for reviews

 

[.vodka]

64Rops disappointing

Tonga with its 32 ROPs and a 256bit bus has higher throughput and fillrate than Hawaii with its 64 ROPs and a monster 512 bit bus in comparison.

So, 64 Tonga ROPs (at the very least, we don't know if they improved them even more) with HBM should set standards *very* high for AMD cards. RS has explained this in detail in many of his posts.

Not dissapointing at all.

 

[happy medium]

I definitely don't think it could beat custom 980Ti OC models using less than 300 watts.

The gigabyte G1 980ti card also cost 688$ , so that's not to bad for the fastest card on the planet.

 

[Head1985]

Tonga with its 32 ROPs and a 256bit bus has higher throughput and fillrate than Hawaii with its 64 ROPs and a monster 512 bit bus in comparison.

So, 64 Tonga ROPs (at the very least, we don't know if they improved them even more) with HBM should set standards *very* high for AMD cards. RS has explained this in detail in many of his posts.

Not dissapointing at all.

Yeah but hawaii sucks.Compare it to maxwell

 

[happy medium]

You'll only give AMD props if they can beat the performance of the G1 Gaming overclocked 158MHz, while staying under the 300W it draws on stock clocks?

Tough crowd.

Well I don't see an air cooled gtx980ti getting much faster than the G1 card, so overclock the Fury to max and see who wins.
Sounds fair?, unless you wanna go water cooled vs water cooled?
Is that more fair? Is the Fury x watercooled? or both air and water cooled versions available, I missed that part.

 

[.vodka]

Yeah but hawaii sucks.Compare it to maxwell

And Tonga compares favorably to MaxwellV2 in that regard, almost on par considering the numbers Tonga puts out for its limited resources.

This should compare better.

 

[Headfoot]

Yeah but hawaii sucks.Compare it to maxwell

Did you even read his post?

 

[xthetenth]

Well I don't see an air cooled gtx980ti getting much faster than the G1 card, so overclock the Fury to max and see who wins.
Sounds fair?, unless you wanna go water cooled vs water cooled?
Is that more fair? Is the Fury x watercooled? or both air and water cooled versions available, I missed that part.

You should compare the Fury X to the performance of the G1 overclocked to the power draw of the G1 overclocked, or the G1 at its stock aftermarket clocks and power draw.

 

[tg2708]

Sorry for the slight derailment but does anyone know of any good 1440p monitors?

 

[happy medium]

You should compare the Fury X to the performance of the G1 overclocked to the power draw of the G1 overclocked, or the G1 at its stock aftermarket clocks and power draw.

I agree. Something tells me a overclocked Fury will pull over 400 watts.
G1 gtx980ti card pulls 293 watts overclocked.

 

[MrTeal]

I agree. Something tells me a overclocked Fury will pull over 400 watts.
G1 gtx980ti card pulls 293 watts overclocked.

No, it doesn't. The G1 pulls 293W at stock clocks. TPU didn't measure the power draw while overclocked.

 

[Headfoot]

Sorry for the slight derailment but does anyone know of any good 1440p monitors?

this is a complete derailment. Start your own thread

 

[StinkyPinky]

So are AMD banking on the memory being quick enough to offload data that the 4gb of vram is enough?

 

[Grooveriding]

So are AMD banking on the memory being quick enough to offload data that the 4gb of vram is enough?

If you hit the memory capacity, you hit the capacity, no matter the speed of your VRAM. The question is if you will find a game that needs to store more than 4GB VRAM or else it goes to the disk. I've seen VRAM usage higher than 4GB reported on my system and in reviews that include memory usage from Afterburner. But it's always been cases where that is the game just filling more information into the buffer because the card has more than 4GB, but not actually needing that amount. Actually striking capacity of VRAM and running out means your game will drop to single digit framerates while it loads in from the disk.

I haven't seen any benchmarks showing that happening on the current 4GB cards that are able to run 4K at playable settings. I'm sure reviewers will try to see if they can break the card with their game suite at 4K, I doubt it will happen without going above 4K or using something like a modded copy of Skyrim.

Need to see reviews.

 

[Osjur]

Why I get the feeling most people have no clue what actually happens when you hit the VRAM wall.

 

[Majcric]

Games handle it differently. In some games when you hit a Vram limit you get sudden drops in FPS. While in some others you can play it just fine but miss out on textures and overall IQ.

 

[Stuka87]

If you hit the memory capacity, you hit the capacity, no matter the speed of your VRAM. The question is if you will find a game that needs to store more than 4GB VRAM or else it goes to the disk. I've seen VRAM usage higher than 4GB reported on my system and in reviews that include memory usage from Afterburner. But it's always been cases where that is the game just filling more information into the buffer because the card has more than 4GB, but not actually needing that amount. Actually striking capacity of VRAM and running out means your game will drop to single digit framerates while it loads in from the disk.

I haven't seen any benchmarks showing that happening on the current 4GB cards that are able to run 4K at playable settings. I'm sure reviewers will try to see if they can break the card with their game suite at 4K, I doubt it will happen without going above 4K or using something like a modded copy of Skyrim.

Need to see reviews.

Unless they use system memory to cache that data instead of going to disk.

 

[happy medium]

I haven't seen any benchmarks showing that happening on the current 4GB cards that are able to run 4K at playable settings.

I didn't think there is a single gpu/card that can run most modern games @ 4k at high detail? I thought you need 2 cards. WHat if you put 2 Fury x's in crossfire cranked up the settings @ 4k? in a handful of todays modern games I think it will choke. Or how about 3 1080p monitors?
WHat do you think?

 

[soccerballtux]

I didn't think there is a single gpu/card that can run most modern games @ 4k at high detail? I thought you need 2 cards. WHat if you put 2 Fury x's in crossfire cranked up the settings @ 4k? in a handful of todays modern games I think it will choke. Or how about 3 1080p monitors?
WHat do you think?

is are 2x295's possible?

 

[happy medium]

is are 2x295's possible?

That's quadfire, you don't want to use 4 gpu's, last I seen that sucks.
You would need a gpu like 40% faster than a gtx980ti to run max settings @ 4k with modern games. I assume unless direct x 12 does wonders this will even become more so with upcoming games.

 

[RampantAndroid]

If you hit the memory capacity, you hit the capacity, no matter the speed of your VRAM. The question is if you will find a game that needs to store more than 4GB VRAM or else it goes to the disk. I've seen VRAM usage higher than 4GB reported on my system and in reviews that include memory usage from Afterburner. But it's always been cases where that is the game just filling more information into the buffer because the card has more than 4GB, but not actually needing that amount. Actually striking capacity of VRAM and running out means your game will drop to single digit framerates while it loads in from the disk.

I haven't seen any benchmarks showing that happening on the current 4GB cards that are able to run 4K at playable settings. I'm sure reviewers will try to see if they can break the card with their game suite at 4K, I doubt it will happen without going above 4K or using something like a modded copy of Skyrim.

Need to see reviews.

I'll ask the question here I did in the benchmark thread: as 4k slowly becomes more of a real thing people are trying to use, will texture sizes increase? And if they do, will 4GB no longer suffice? What will the longevity of 4GB really be?

 

[yacoub]

Looking forward to the air-cooled models which will have to be cheaper than having an expensive water cooling contraption included. $599 air-cooled Fiji XT sounds good.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I am planning a day one purchase if reviews have this card faster than a 980ti.

If Fiji was faster AMD would have said so.

Yeah, that is the one thing that concerns me as well. The quotes from Anandtech's coverage of the event have AMD basically saying they are aiming for beating 980 TI. That means a few things in my mind. Right now, at this moment in time, they don't beat the 980 TI. They think it is possible with driver improvements that they might be able to beat the 980 TI (it isn't like they don't have a 980 TI in their hands already and their own cards in their hands to be able to benchmark against one another). If the card+drivers already beat 980 TI, they would be broadcasting that as loud as they could, bouncing it off satellites and the moon even to make sure every person in the world saw that fact getting everyone to stop from buying a 980 TI and wait for the 390 X Fury to be out...

Unfortunately for me, drivers are the one thing AMD is really not that good at doing. Don't get me wrong, they have most definitely gotten better than they were a few years ago (then again, a few years ago, you couldn't be doing a whole lot worse). When AMD took over ATI, this is the one area which I felt they have really screwed up. It always seems the be 6 months or more lag before AMD has drivers that actually work with their hardware...

 

[exar333]

30% is kind of stretching it without a BIOS mod. It thinks it's more like 5-20%

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_980_ti_g1_gaming_soc_review,36.html

Most of these games tested are seeing gains in 10-12% range @ 1080p and 1440/1600p with a healthy OC, stabilizing at around 1450-1477MHz.

I'm hoping that Fury X has some overclocking headroom though. I'm hoping an extra 150-250Mhz on the core. I'm sure a 1300MHz Fury X would be a screamer.

I don't think you are reading it right. That's 10-12% over the G1 stock speeds, which are 10-15% over reference speeds. All told, it's about 25% faster.

 

[Makaveli]

Tonga with its 32 ROPs and a 256bit bus has higher throughput and fillrate than Hawaii with its 64 ROPs and a monster 512 bit bus in comparison.

So, 64 Tonga ROPs (at the very least, we don't know if they improved them even more) with HBM should set standards *very* high for AMD cards. RS has explained this in detail in many of his posts.

Not dissapointing at all.

Get out of here with your facts man