*** Official Gigabyte 8PENXP and 8IPE1000/MK/Pro (865PE) Thread ***

[GOZ]

Running a 2.8 800fsb@ 3.39 useing geil value ram with memory timeings 2.5 7 3 3 memory score on sandra 2004 5183. I love this board, only bad thing about the value ram from geil is it won't let you go over 400mhz tried it at 402mhz and it crashes. My bad for buying the cheap stuff.

 

[brainwave]

Which bios are you using. The newer bios have improved mem timing settings that may improve your oc.

 

[Auric]

New BIOS' are available.

 

[buleyb]

nice, thanks Auric

 

[Auric]

Hmm, F9 on my 1000 Pro rev 1.0 exhibits the same several minute hang as F8.

F7 hangs on cold boot but proceeds upon reset so I have been using that since it has the advanced chipset stuff over the original F6. Only F7 and later sport Prescott & EE support which I don't need now but it would be nice to have flawless functionality if the time comes.

 

[buleyb]

I'm not even sure what I'm running anymore, I'll check when I get home. I tried to update once, but hit that hang you refer to...it was annoying enough to bring me back a rev.

You flash from windows or boot disk? I tried to get my flash drive booting, but it wouldn't take, and I refuse to get a floppy drive in this box...

 

[Auric]

Flashed with Q-Flash (from CMOS Setup) with the BIOS file on floppy. I still find floppy indispensable for flashing, imaging, HDD tools, ERD's, partitioning, etc. You could always make a bootable CD and add the flash files and stuff.

 

[buleyb]

Its too bad really, I find the floppy really useful for those things, but I don't want to encourage their use. USB drives would solve all those problems...

 

[Auric]

Since inquiring, the swines have edited the BIOS descriptions for the 8IPE1000 Pro to remove references to Prescott support. In fact, all three released since MP now just state "Update micro code". Some of the other original revisions (1.0) such as the non-Pro still state support.


Current versus Google cache

 

[buleyb]

yeah, I think they intended to support the model #s in the BIOS (likely because the BIOS code is shared between many board types), not a claim that you can run Prescotts in the Rev1 boards.

 

[brainwave]

buleyb,

yeah, I think they intended to support the model #s in the BIOS (likely because the BIOS code is shared between many board types), not a claim that you can run Prescotts in the Rev1 boards

Are you saying that the 8IPE1000 Pro Rev1 board with BIOS ver. F9 does NOT support Prescott?
I am using a 2.4 Northwood with F9 with no problems at all. No "several minute hang" as described by Auric.
I was thinking of upgrading to a Prescott, but since Gigabyte changed their description of the BIOS, now I am not sure my board will support Prescott even with the BIOS upgrade.

Has anyone tried a Prescott on a 8IPE1000 Pro Rev1 board?

 

[buleyb]

I'm honestly not sure if it is or not. Their tech support is helpful, email them.

I'm saying its likely that they are not supported, but no amount of guessing will answer this, email them.

 

[GOZ]

Found my prob with my "ram prob" don't flash your bios form windows lol. Started loading form the backup bios and had no probs. Back up bios is FC, main was FD now is FE. Reflashed main bio and now everythings ok now. After I RMA'ed my ram lol.

 

[Auric]

The 8IPE1000 Pro Rev 1.0 is absent from their Prescott support list and so the discrepancy has remained until just now with their changing the BIOS descriptions. To add to the confusion, in this thread a user was told by Gigabyte phone support that it was supported.

Personally, I think anyone who purchased a board in this series after the 2003/11/25 BIOS releases upon which support/compatibility was claimed should be entitled to a replacement with a revision that definitely does. I happened to have purchased mine before then so did not expect it.

Still, I am thining about a trying a warranty claim. At first I guessed maybe only the earliest production like mine might suffer the hang problem but brainwave, you seem to have purchased about the same time in June/July too? I have not yet tried to isolate it by removing all devices but it's not like I have any weird components and it hangs at or before drive detection.

 

[buleyb]

I ordered mine Jul 23 2003...interesting ...

I'll get to the F9 revision this week and let you know how mine handles it.

 

[brainwave]

I bought my board on July 19 at Microcenter. I love this mb. It has worked flawlessly. I first flashed BIOS to F7d, and then to F9 using Q-flash within the BIOS. Before flashing bios, I reset to default settings and set memory timings to the most conservative. I am running Win XP Home SP1, which boots in about 30-40 sec. There has never been any hang time on boot. If you think it would be helpful I could try to find the serial number of my board. The box has a bar code # that says SN0319000293 but I'm not sure that is the serial no. I know it is rev. 1.

I admit I never anticipated putting a Prescott on this mb, and the more I read about Prescott, the less impressed I am. I doubt it's worth upgrading. I'll wait for the BTX and next mb standard rather than set my rig on fire with a hot Prescott that's not much faster than my trusty oc-happy Northwood.

 

[brainwave]

Correction: my bios is at F8

 

[buleyb]

30-40 seconds?

It isn't our hang to cause that, the IDE detection thing Auric and I see is much longer...

and it isn't normal. I'm at F6, and I go from power-on to login in under 12sec

 

[Auric]

I timed it as 2 min after processor and before quick memory test. Perhaps it is an issue with the advanced chipset memory options as those were added with F7 which was the first to exhibit the hang problem -although if I recall it is different but seemingly related to the F8/F9 as it does the same thing but only F7 allows bypassing the hang with reset. I will try fail-safe defaults again and perhaps disconnect/remove everything non-essential after that (although I doubt anything but memory could be a culprit based on the boot process). I agree that Prescott support is not really important with BTX/PCI-E, etc on the horizon but it would be nice to maintain resale value. The memory options really allowed boosting performance though so I do want to continue using a BIOS with those.

 

[brainwave]

Have you tried the F9 bios yet? Let us know how it goes.

 

[Auric]

F9 has the same hang problem as F8. It remains with fail-safe defaults.

 

[buleyb]

Has anyone asked GB tech support about this hang yet?

 

[brainwave]

I really don't understand the hang problem you guys have. I have the same mb with absolutely no delay from processor to quick mem test. There is something very wrong if you have a 2 min. delay on boot. It must be some memory related problem, but I cannot imagine what bios setting could do that. Have you always had this prob? What are your RAM specs?

 

[brainwave]

It could be your system is looking for a hardward device that is no longer there, or it could be a problem with your virtual memory file. Is is possible the "hang" problem is not related to the mb at all? Have you considered re-formatting and reloading the OS. One other idea is to try disabling all the onboard peripheral devices. Maybe the board has a bad USB port. Do you have a network card in addition the the onboard NIC which is conflicting? Just a few thoughts...

 

[buleyb]

nope, and I'll tell you why. First off, its before the OS loads, in fact, its during/before hard drives are detected.

I've tried different hard drives, I've pulled all drives out, i've pulled all my cards out, tried different vid cards, tried diff memory, tried single channel memory. If I go to F8 or F9, I get this hang.

I'm currently running my 8IPE1000-Pro Rev1 with

ATI Radeon 9500 Pro
WD800JB (primary master)
LiteON CDR (sec master)
2x 512MB Corsair DDR400 LL memory
P4 2.4C

No overclocking, all default settings...still happens.

what are you running Brainwave? Auric?