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Sav

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Yeah, the header is definitely plugged in correctly, I have checked the fan a couple times and also the fan does work when I disable bios control so it's definitely plugged in. If I revert to bios F9 could it work? Thanks for continued help .
 

beeblebrox12

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Originally posted by: beeblebrox12
Originally posted by: rone
Hi man,
Try to put some extra voltage on memory in Bios. There is some kind of secret weapon for this mem related cold bots : FSB over voltage (+ 0.1V will do).

Thanks for the advice, rone. I tried it last night and it booted OK this morning. Let's hope this is a permanent fix.

Well, I spoke too soon. The problem is back. I upped the FSB by 0.1, 0.2, tried upping the memory (although I didn't really need to, memory is very stable at stock voltage, since it is never overclocked), but I still get the cold boot problem 50% of the time.

I see lots of people asking about this cold boot issue, but nobody has ever said if and how they handled it. This is my second motherboard P965-DS3 rev. 2.0, and has the same cold boot problem. Is replacing this motherboard with another brand the only solution?
 

tenax

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sorry..not sure exactly what you've tried..i may or may not have had the occasional cold boot issue..(press button, power's on, no post?) when i've been playing around with various bios settings..what has always worked for me (which has only been 2 or 3 times ) is to simply turn off the power to the whole system by turning off the power to my psu in back (or unplugging), leave for 15 seconds, then turn back on , power up, bios comes up at default 8 x 266 for my e6400 processor..then i hit delete and adjust the bios as i want to. hope that helps. i've never reset the cmos with jumpers or pulled the battery by the way
 

tomo300ac

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Hi guys, I need a little help here.
I'm planning to buy this board but I want to buy the rev. 3.3 version of the board.
So my question is how do I know what revision it is? Is it stated clearly on the retail box? How can I be absolutely sure that that's rev. 3.3 mb that I'm buying? Sure, I could easily ask the guys in the store but if they only have rev. 2.0 in stock they will probably try to pass those as rev. 3.3 So how can I be absolutely sure I'm buying rev. 3.3 board?
Thanx
 

tenax

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2 ways..a) there should be a rectangular spec sticker , likely on a narrow edge of the box that will show revision number..you really want to be sure? see if the store if a brick and mortar will open it up and you will see 3.3 on the upper left edge i believe it is, of the pcp...i got mine at ncix.com (us and canada.i think they have on sale right now matter of fact) and told them to send me a 3.3 . while that's not a guarantee they would, they did..and i'm happy!
 

tomo300ac

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Thanx for the info. Only one question, where exactly is the upper left edge of the pcp? I'm kinda newbie here. Building my pc for the first time.
 

tenax

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no problem and welcome! go to the link below and on the very upper left edge as the board sits in this picture, in white letters will be the revision number..most manufacturers used to put it between the memory or pic slots but i think they finally realized a lot of times it came up in forums..what's your revision..and without removing components people couldn't see the damn thing

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/ViewImage.aspx?ProductID=2314
 

tenax

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no problem happy to help and i love the ds3..hope you do too..if you need any help, you know where to come
 

Glenn

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I just got my 965P-DS3 (rev 3.3) from Newegg installed yesterday and spent several hours setting it up and loading Vista 32. For those of you that are having problems with a tick in device manager on the jmicron sata controller as well as unstable and glitchy perfomance, I have a possible solution.

As always for a fresh install, I downloaded the most current drivers from the gigabyte website before the Vista Installation. All drivers went in fine except the SATA2 Raid windows drivers on gigabytes website- " motherboard_driver_sata_gb_sata2raid.exe ". They would freeze during install about a third of the way thru and lock the system. I tried reinstalling windows, downloaded the drivers three times before I noticed that they say it's a 3.01 MB file and the file i was downloading was only 2.37 mb?? There are 4 sites to choose from- 1. Asia, 2. Asia(China), 3. America, 4. Europe. Strangely, the Asia and Europe files are 3.0 mb and the Asia (China) and America links are only 2.37 mb? I tried the driver download from Europe and they installed without a glitch and solved my jmicron tick as well.

I also had a lesser problem loading the sata install drivers during windows installation but was finally able to get raid set up using these drivers, this fellow over at TH"extracted" from a windows update. If you aren't getting raid working during install, you might try these- jmicron Raid Drivers. Many thanks to Zorglub38 at TH for putting these out there for me to find!

Hope any of this helps just one of ya!
Glenn
 

beeblebrox12

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Originally posted by: tenaxsorry..not sure exactly what you've tried..i may or may not have had the occasional cold boot issue..(press button, power's on, no post?) when i've been playing around with various bios settings..what has always worked for me (which has only been 2 or 3 times ) is to simply turn off the power to the whole system by turning off the power to my psu in back (or unplugging), leave for 15 seconds, then turn back on , power up, bios comes up at default 8 x 266 for my e6400 processor..then i hit delete and adjust the bios as i want to. hope that helps. i've never reset the cmos with jumpers or pulled the battery by the way


Yes, that's pretty much what I am experiencing. But it is quite annoying, since I have to wai for quite some time (off, wait, on), and I am turning on my PC at least twice a day.
I guess I'll have to learn to live with it, since everything else is quite stable, and I don't really need to work in overclock mode all the time. Thanks for the replies, but I am still puzzled why Gigabyte can't fix such an obvious problem in so many of their motherboards.
 

Cheex

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Originally posted by: Glenn
I just got my 965P-DS3 (rev 3.3) from Newegg installed yesterday and spent several hours setting it up and loading Vista 32. For those of you that are having problems with a tick in device manager on the jmicron sata controller as well as unstable and glitchy perfomance, I have a possible solution.

As always for a fresh install, I downloaded the most current drivers from the gigabyte website before the Vista Installation. All drivers went in fine except the SATA2 Raid windows drivers on gigabytes website- " motherboard_driver_sata_gb_sata2raid.exe ". They would freeze during install about a third of the way thru and lock the system. I tried reinstalling windows, downloaded the drivers three times before I noticed that they say it's a 3.01 MB file and the file i was downloading was only 2.37 mb?? There are 4 sites to choose from- 1. Asia, 2. Asia(China), 3. America, 4. Europe. Strangely, the Asia and Europe files are 3.0 mb and the Asia (China) and America links are only 2.37 mb? I tried the driver download from Europe and they installed without a glitch and solved my jmicron tick as well.

I also had a lesser problem loading the sata install drivers during windows installation but was finally able to get raid set up using these drivers, this fellow over at TH"extracted" from a windows update. If you aren't getting raid working during install, you might try these- jmicron Raid Drivers. Many thanks to Zorglub38 at TH for putting these out there for me to find!

Hope any of this helps just one of ya!
Glenn

I'm having a similar problem.

I'm using XP Pro SP2 (x86). I can't seem to get my optical drives to work. In the device manager i see them as: SCSI Cdrom Device.

My single hard drive is plugged into SATA1 on the mobo. I did a clean install and this is what i'm getting.

I have no idea what to do next....please advise!!
 

Glenn

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Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: Glenn
I just got my 965P-DS3 (rev 3.3) from Newegg installed yesterday and spent several hours setting it up and loading Vista 32. For those of you that are having problems with a tick in device manager on the jmicron sata controller as well as unstable and glitchy perfomance, I have a possible solution.

As always for a fresh install, I downloaded the most current drivers from the gigabyte website before the Vista Installation. All drivers went in fine except the SATA2 Raid windows drivers on gigabytes website- " motherboard_driver_sata_gb_sata2raid.exe ". They would freeze during install about a third of the way thru and lock the system. I tried reinstalling windows, downloaded the drivers three times before I noticed that they say it's a 3.01 MB file and the file i was downloading was only 2.37 mb?? There are 4 sites to choose from- 1. Asia, 2. Asia(China), 3. America, 4. Europe. Strangely, the Asia and Europe files are 3.0 mb and the Asia (China) and America links are only 2.37 mb? I tried the driver download from Europe and they installed without a glitch and solved my jmicron tick as well.

I also had a lesser problem loading the sata install drivers during windows installation but was finally able to get raid set up using these drivers, this fellow over at TH"extracted" from a windows update. If you aren't getting raid working during install, you might try these- jmicron Raid Drivers. Many thanks to Zorglub38 at TH for putting these out there for me to find!

Hope any of this helps just one of ya!
Glenn

I'm having a similar problem.

I'm using XP Pro SP2 (x86). I can't seem to get my optical drives to work. In the device manager i see them as: SCSI Cdrom Device.

My single hard drive is plugged into SATA1 on the mobo. I did a clean install and this is what i'm getting.

I have no idea what to do next....please advise!!

You might download the Europe drivers from Gigabytes website and give them a try? My SATA DVD drive wasn't working properly until I was able to install the new drivers, although I don't remember it having a tick in Device Mmanager. Be sure and let us know whether they worked for you?

Good Luck
 

Cheex

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OK. I downloaded it. Now I have 2 options:

1) Gigabyte SCSI Driver - Support hot-plug features for SATA hard disks.
2) Standard IDE Driver.

Which one is the correct one to install in my situation. I'm thinking that I should install #2.
I have only 1 SATA HDD (which is working fine) and also no SCSI. My IDE optical drives are the problem.

I just want to confirm before I go ahead.
 

tenax

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cheet, are you plugging your optical or an orange or purple port?..reason i ask is because there is no reason to use the purple unless you're wanting to use raid and then would yes, require third party drivers....i have tried 2 sata dvd drives ..using orange only.no reason i believe to use the jmicron unless i have raid..which i don't..and in both cases, the system booted up fine with microsofts own drivers (liteon burner detected at udma 5, pioneer burner detected at udma 4..both work fine). no additional drivers were needed or wanted i have an sata 2 maxtor hd..again..on an orange port..again, no extra drivers needed. winxp sp2.

ps- just occurred to me..i have legacy ide enabled in my bios..are you mucking with ahci setting etc? if so, save yourself the grief.. that may well be your issue and from what i've read in the past week, no performance boost to be had with it to speak of...some reports actually decrease performance.
 

tenax

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Originally posted by: beeblebrox12
Originally posted by: tenaxsorry..not sure exactly what you've tried..i may or may not have had the occasional cold boot issue..(press button, power's on, no post?) when i've been playing around with various bios settings..what has always worked for me (which has only been 2 or 3 times ) is to simply turn off the power to the whole system by turning off the power to my psu in back (or unplugging), leave for 15 seconds, then turn back on , power up, bios comes up at default 8 x 266 for my e6400 processor..then i hit delete and adjust the bios as i want to. hope that helps. i've never reset the cmos with jumpers or pulled the battery by the way


Yes, that's pretty much what I am experiencing. But it is quite annoying, since I have to wai for quite some time (off, wait, on), and I am turning on my PC at least twice a day.
I guess I'll have to learn to live with it, since everything else is quite stable, and I don't really need to work in overclock mode all the time. Thanks for the replies, but I am still puzzled why Gigabyte can't fix such an obvious problem in so many of their motherboards.

hey beeb..i guess it doesn't bother me too much because my box is an htpc box running 24/7 unless i change components or want to play with different overclocking settings. i've gotten used to the routine..shut it down..turn off the power switch, boot into the bios, change settings to my saved overclock profile from the default that occurs with the psu power switch turned off, reboot and it's up. i actually don't think it's a bug..if you look at all these "safe boot" /"successful boot options this board has, i believe it may be tied into that. i know earlier bioses were supposed to have some kind of thing that was a bug.something to do with it always having to be started then restarted, but..they also were supposed to have fixed that back around F4. i have not tried to do things in the bios like turn off the feature that protects it from non safe boots (i.e. memory set way too high) and maybe that would change the way it behaves on startup..or, it may well be that this intel chipset has the occasional cold boot issue. the biostar 965pt has many instances of cold boot problems..i've read recently of some reported on the asus boards with the 965 chipset..different manufacturers, much different bioses..yet, chipset is the common thread.

 

Cheex

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Originally posted by: tenax
cheet, are you plugging your optical or an orange or purple port?..reason i ask is because there is no reason to use the purple unless you're wanting to use raid and then would yes, require third party drivers....i have tried 2 sata dvd drives ..using orange only.no reason i believe to use the jmicron unless i have raid..which i don't..and in both cases, the system booted up fine with microsofts own drivers (liteon burner detected at udma 5, pioneer burner detected at udma 4..both work fine). no additional drivers were needed or wanted i have an sata 2 maxtor hd..again..on an orange port..again, no extra drivers needed. winxp sp2.

ps- just occurred to me..i have legacy ide enabled in my bios..are you mucking with ahci setting etc? if so, save yourself the grief.. that may well be your issue and from what i've read in the past week, no performance boost to be had with it to speak of...some reports actually decrease performance.

I'll enable the Legacy IDE and see what happens. I'll let you know how it turns out.
 

tenax

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plse do..i'll be curious..my dvd simply shows up in devices as a cd/dvd rom drive..just like i want it..if it's showing up as a scuzzy, then you've got something different than me going on for sure..if you've been building these long enough, that's typical of an add on driver or raid device to show as an scsi device in there
 

Glenn

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After playing with my setup for the past couple of days, I have hit a wall. I can't get past 450 FSB with the memory divider at 2 (memory runnning at ddr900). Is there a way to lock the memory at it's intended DDR800 and still run the cpu up farther?

Seems odd to me that they don't allow for the memory setting to be slower than the FSB? I think there is much more legroom in my cpu but not in my Patriot DDR 800 Ram!
 

tenax

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i've read quite a bit on this question lately and best i can figure..it simply isn't logical. maybe it would improve some benchmarks to be able to do it ..or increase bragging rights ( i can get 500 on my fsb) cause most people seem focused on being able to say i can do 7 x 500 or whatever so my processor is running at 3.5!!!!..but then look at your memory efficiency and benches..your simply going to be bottlenecked by the lower memory settings..if that is what you really want..then relax your memory timings and you'll probably get that 500 out of your memory...same is true of the reverse..cpu/memory at 4/5 is going to get you that nice memory bump, bottlenecked by y the cpu..easy to prove in easy case by running your best 1/1 ratio benchmarks against the variations (which i've done on many a board) and tighter timings makes way more difference in my snappy my system actually feels. (i can do 425 anyway with my 333 rated memory, but have to relax the timings to 5-5-6-15 to do it..the system is faster and benches better as a happy medium if i run it at 375 fsb/memory and run my timings at 4-4-4-12. no question..
 

Glenn

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Originally posted by: tenax
i've read quite a bit on this question lately and best i can figure..it simply isn't logical. maybe it would improve some benchmarks to be able to do it ..or increase bragging rights ( i can get 500 on my fsb) cause most people seem focused on being able to say i can do 7 x 500 or whatever so my processor is running at 3.5!!!!..but then look at your memory efficiency and benches..your simply going to be bottlenecked by the lower memory settings..if that is what you really want..then relax your memory timings and you'll probably get that 500 out of your memory...same is true of the reverse..cpu/memory at 4/5 is going to get you that nice memory bump, bottlenecked by y the cpu..easy to prove in easy case by running your best 1/1 ratio benchmarks against the variations (which i've done on many a board) and tighter timings makes way more difference in my snappy my system actually feels. (i can do 425 anyway with my 333 rated memory, but have to relax the timings to 5-5-6-15 to do it..the system is faster and benches better as a happy medium if i run it at 375 fsb/memory and run my timings at 4-4-4-12. no question..

I understand your thinking and the argument you make, but...
If i knew my processor would handle 533 FSB, I would then know that likewise if i bought some expensive ram capable of 1066, I would be able to eak even more performance out of this system! As it stands, I might be spending several hundred dollars on a hope?

Although never to the extremes, I have been overclocking for ten years now and have seen more than a few boards that will lock your mem, pci, agp/pci'e etc... at spec so you can test individual components or subsystems. I am just dissapointed that it's evidently not possible with this board.:brokenheart:

 

tenax

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well, one of us is not understanding how this works..and i don't think it's me so, your fsb is at 400...look at cpu-z..your rated fsb should then be at 1600! stock timing for a ds3 prior to revision 3.3..and for the dual core processors is 4 x 266 (1066 rated fsb) for the ds3 revision 3.3... 4 x 333 or 1033, which we know the dual core is quite capable of doing..i'm running my memory and fsb at 375..or 1500..quite nice for a 1033 processor, don't you think? you're running yours if memory and cpu is 450..at 1800... if you wanted to run your fsb on processor at the real 533 (not 2 x 266) then your rated fsb would be 2132 on a 1033 dual core processor..haven't heard of anyone doing that, and if they are and you want to do that? better add the cost of a water cooling setup on top of the cost of new ram


short story..ram setting is 2x your real fsb..rated processor fsb is 4x your setting.

 

Cheex

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As for my situation now...I installed the IDE Drivers and now the Device Manager picks up my drives properly but I am still having a problem.

My NEC 3550A won't read any DVDs, only CDs....I don't understand that...Any ideas on what could be wrong and how to solve it??

Thanks in advance.
 

Glenn

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Originally posted by: tenax
well, one of us is not understanding how this works..and i don't think it's me so, your fsb is at 400...look at cpu-z..your rated fsb should then be at 1600! stock timing for a ds3 prior to revision 3.3..and for the dual core processors is 4 x 266 (1066 rated fsb) for the ds3 revision 3.3... 4 x 333 or 1033, which we know the dual core is quite capable of doing..i'm running my memory and fsb at 375..or 1500..quite nice for a 1033 processor, don't you think? you're running yours if memory and cpu is 450..at 1800... if you wanted to run your fsb on processor at the real 533 (not 2 x 266) then your rated fsb would be 2132 on a 1033 dual core processor..haven't heard of anyone doing that, and if they are and you want to do that? better add the cost of a water cooling setup on top of the cost of new ram


short story..ram setting is 2x your real fsb..rated processor fsb is 4x your setting.

When using 1066 I was referring to the ram DDR2 1066 or PC2 8500 Ram. I do understand the relationship between all the components

 

tenax

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Originally posted by: Glenn
Originally posted by: tenax
well, one of us is not understanding how this works..and i don't think it's me so, your fsb is at 400...look at cpu-z..your rated fsb should then be at 1600! stock timing for a ds3 prior to revision 3.3..and for the dual core processors is 4 x 266 (1066 rated fsb) for the ds3 revision 3.3... 4 x 333 or 1033, which we know the dual core is quite capable of doing..i'm running my memory and fsb at 375..or 1500..quite nice for a 1033 processor, don't you think? you're running yours if memory and cpu is 450..at 1800... if you wanted to run your fsb on processor at the real 533 (not 2 x 266) then your rated fsb would be 2132 on a 1033 dual core processor..haven't heard of anyone doing that, and if they are and you want to do that? better add the cost of a water cooling setup on top of the cost of new ram


short story..ram setting is 2x your real fsb..rated processor fsb is 4x your setting.

When using 1066 I was referring to the ram DDR2 1066 or PC2 8500 Ram. I do understand the relationship between all the components


gotcha..and no, i'm not trying to be an ahole or condescending so you know i've been overclocking about as long as you and sometimes the fsb etc conversations some people have go over my head, but i'm getting it these days..so..no, this board does not do that..at least not with any current bios and there frankly doesn't seem to be much demand from it..a few folk with same intent as you but haven't seen many..in regards to will the processor run 533? haven't seen anyone doing it at this point in various travels on the net..not sure i'd ever want to run the voltage high enough to find out..now, isn't there talk of a 1333 version coming out? or maybe it's the quads.. i believe i've read that in the intel pricing guide for april price drop..if so, i think then we're within shooting distance and i'd be wanting to see reports and potentially buying a new processor and ram. i think i'd still get decent money for my 6400 and corsair to help fund
 
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