*** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

[irrationalJohn]

Originally posted by: Imported
I had it at 102 MHz.. I'll try putting it to 100 Mhz when I put the card back in.

It wasn't clear to me from your OP, but it sounds like you are saying you can overclock your DS3, but only when the X-FI sound card is not plugged in. Yes? No? (If that's the case, then I have no idea what is going on. )

-john

 

[Imported]

Originally posted by: zjohnr

Originally posted by: Imported
I had it at 102 MHz.. I'll try putting it to 100 Mhz when I put the card back in.

It wasn't clear to me from your OP, but it sounds like you are saying you can overclock your DS3, but only when the X-FI sound card is not plugged in. Yes? No? (If that's the case, then I have no idea what is going on. )

-john

Sorry for the misunderstanding. My PC will only boot up with the X-Fi card if I don't overclock. If I try to overclock, it refuses to boot and resets back to default BIOS settings. Additionally, when I first installed the X-Fi, it worked. 3 restarts later it stopped booting up with any overclocking.

 

[reflex33]

Hey guys... maybe you could help me with my prob.

I have the S3, pretty much the same board... and am having all sorts of problems with the IDE. When I try to install Vista, the only way I can get past the "CD/DVD device driver missing" is to install the ICH8 drivers from Gigabytes page. No big deal, but strange (I thought those would be on the Vista DVD). Windows then loads no problem, but then on its first reboot, it hangs for a bit. I found out it was doing something with the DVD drive because if I eject the Vista DVD, it boots to Windows no problem.

So what I found is that my DVD drive will read all pressed original DVDs but fails on a lot of burnt disks. As soon as I put in a disk, the drive disappears from My Computer. I can get it back by scanning for hardware changes in device manager, but that is really annoying to have to do all the time. And before you ask, I have a legit copy of Vista, but it was burnt because I got a free business copy through work.

My setup:
Gigabyte p965-S3
Two SATA HDs on the Intel ports
NEC 3540A DVD burner and Lite-On CD drive on JMicron IDE
everything has the latest BIOS and firmware

Something else I noticed that was weird, when I install Vista and get to the CD/DVD driver error... I browse for drivers and load them from a USB stick. While browsing I notice I have access to the Lite-On drive, but not the DVD drive. And why do I have to install the ICH8 drivers to get the IDE on the JMicron to work? If I try to install the JMicron driver from their website instead of the ICH8 driver, I get a blue screen.

I'm thinking I could just get a SATA burner and be done with it... but I want to make sure its not something simple, or a bigger problem!

 

[ferrarifreak93]

Is there any way to manually control the CPU fan with the motherboard. When it's on AUTO, I can hear the fan continually spin up and down - really annoying. I tried SpeedFan but it didn't work.

 

[Fx10]

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forums and wasn't sure exactly where to post this, but dubing this the "Official Gigabyte P965-DS3" seemed to make it a pretty good option to get some help with a tech problem I'm having.

I chose the DS3 as the base for a new system assembly (my first by the way) and just got it all put together last night. When booting for the first time everything went fine, so I powered down the system, installed a cdrom drive, and when I rebooted it produced one long beep with a short beep directly at the end almost overlaping it (referenced in the manual as a DRAM/MB error). Not noticing any error messages on the post screen (the ram check passed OK and turned up the correct amount) I went ahead with my windows installation. When that finished (successfully), I switched off the system and went to bed.

This morning I booted it up for a quick test it once again produced the long-short beep combination, but after starting to boot into windows it started producing long beeps and uneven intervals. I reset the system (can't remember wether it was a soft reset, or a total reboot), and entered the bios setup thinking the CPU may be overheating and found the system/cpu temps to be close to each other and acceptable. I exited that and allowed the boot to complete, and with no beep codes resulting from that boot and being short on time I quickly shut the system down and went into work.

From the research into the beep codes I've done so far, the long/short code represents DRAM or M/B error, and intermitent could be DRAM. I don't have a fan pluged into the MB's system fan connector and the sysfan warning settnig is turned off so I'm pretty sure it's not that; and the 2 different beep codes are a pertty good indication of the memory.

That's what has me confused. It pases the initial ram-check and turns up the correct amount of ram (and it's DDR2 so I'm QUITE certain that I have it installed correctly), and it's able to boot into the OS. And from what I read bad ram keeps your system from booting entirely.

If anyone might have some insight into this problem I would greatly appreciate it.

Oh, and if it might help anyone at all I have 2gb of Corsair XMS2 (DDR2 800) ram.

 

[vailr]

@ferrarifreak93: There should be a setting that disables the temperature sensing, so that the fan runs all the time, from the first second that the system power button is turned on.

@Fx10:
I'd advise against: not having a fan plugged into the CPU fan connector.
What CPU cooler are you using? If a metal backplate is involved, it could be shorting out the CPU socket.
Zalman CS-2 is a non-metallic backplate.
http://sharkacomputers.com/zacsclsuforl.html
Or else: add insulation to the metal backplate.
Also, try re-seating the CPU cooler, in case there might be inadequate CPU/paste & /cooler contact.

 

[Fx10]

No, I've got the cpu cooler hooked up to the cpu_fan connector, it's the sys_fan that I'm not using.

Right now I'm thinking that it could be that the specs for the memory say it's 1.9v, and checking the specs on the motherboard says the 965 only supports ddr2-800 at 1.8v. Could this be causing the system error? Maybe bumping up the voltage by .1 could clear that up?

 

[ferrarifreak93]

Originally posted by: vailr
@ferrarifreak93: There should be a setting that disables the temperature sensing, so that the fan runs all the time, from the first second that the system power button is turned on.

I've tried that option, but then the fan puts out a high-pitched whine. I want to be able to control the fan manually via software if possible.

 

[irrationalJohn]

Originally posted by: Fx10
Right now I'm thinking that it could be that the specs for the memory say it's 1.9v, and checking the specs on the motherboard says the 965 only supports ddr2-800 at 1.8v. Could this be causing the system error? Maybe bumping up the voltage by .1 could clear that up?

Depends. Did you change the timing settings for your RAM in the BIOS? If not and you're just running with the default settings from your memory's SPD then you shouldn't need to bump the voltage. The 1.9v (in your case) would be needed to ensure the memory worked at the advertised timings. The default timings from the SPD should ... these days ... always work at 1.8v.

If you suspect the memory then I'd suggest running MemTest86+ at least overnight and seeing if it reports any errors. It's not a conclusive test, but it's a place to start.

-john

 

[Fx10]

Originally posted by: zjohnr
Depends. Did you change the timing settings for your RAM in the BIOS? If not and you're just running with the default settings from your memory's SPD then you shouldn't need to bump the voltage. The 1.9v (in your case) would be needed to ensure the memory worked at the advertised timings. The default timings from the SPD should ... these days ... always work at 1.8v.

If you suspect the memory then I'd suggest running MemTest86+ at least overnight and seeing if it reports any errors. It's not a conclusive test, but it's a place to start.

-john

Nope, haven't adjusted the memory voltage yet, just thought of that a earlier today. I've pretty much walked out of my range of tech knowledge when it comes to that.

I'm not sure if it's the memory or not (just going off of the beep codes) but I'll certainly try memtest out tonight. Assuming that I can get it to boot without it constantly beeping at me.

 

[irrationalJohn]

Originally posted by: Fx10
I'm not sure if it's the memory or not (just going off of the beep codes) but I'll certainly try memtest out tonight. Assuming that I can get it to boot without it constantly beeping at me.

In hindsight, I suppose I should have mentioned that FWIW I am using 2GB of Corsair XMS CM2X1024-6400 (TWIN2X2048-6400) which is what you've got, correct? The RAM is running with stock SPD timings at 800MHz with no problems that I am aware of. I've got my voltages set to manual (because I'm overclocking slightly ... FSB 266MHz vs 200 for stock) and the memory voltage is set to "Normal".

("Normal" should be 1.8v ... but for some reason Gigabyte's EasyTune 5 always shows the memory voltage as 1.9v. I have no idea what is up with that. )

Besides running MemTest, here are some other things you might consider doing:

[*]It's possible/probable that if you have some bad DDR2 then only one of your two sticks is bad. Try running/testing with just 1GB installed. If the problem (consistently) goes away, then see what happens when only the other stick is installed.

[*]If you aren't already, use the defaults for the BIOS MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) settings.
The DS3 overclocks very well and I would not accept as truly functional any DS3 which would work only with the default settings. But when you're trying to isolate a problem it's best to minimize the number of things you've changed.

I'm assuming you've got a rev 3.3 965P-DS3, correct? And the BIOS is level F10? (Mostly just curious ...)

-john

 

[Imported]

Quick question.. I plan on getting a 5th SATA device and plugging it into what I guess would be the JMicron SATA slots. Do I need to do anything special to just get it to work correctly beforehand? Install the SATA RAID drivers on Gigabyte's site or set something in the BIOS? I don't intend to use RAID, just want to use it as a 5th SATA slot.

Another note.. my motherboard doesn't beep. That isn't normal is it? I just realized while reading one of the above posts.

 

[Fx10]

@ zjohnr

Originally posted by: zjohnr
In hindsight, I suppose I should have mentioned that FWIW I am using 2GB of Corsair XMS CM2X1024-6400 (TWIN2X2048-6400) which is what you've got, correct? The RAM is running with stock SPD timings at 800MHz with no problems that I am aware of. I've got my voltages set to manual (because I'm overclocking slightly ... FSB 266MHz vs 200 for stock) and the memory voltage is set to "Normal".

Yes, that's the memory I have. Newegg was having a nice sale/rebate on it.

[*]If you aren't already, use the defaults for the BIOS MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) settings.
The DS3 overclocks very well and I would not accept as truly functional any DS3 which would work only with the default settings. But when you're trying to isolate a problem it's best to minimize the number of things you've changed.

Still running the defaults. Didn't have time to get around to tweaking it.

I'm assuming you've got a rev 3.3 965P-DS3, correct? And the BIOS is level F10? (Mostly just curious ...)

I'm not sure which revision I'm running. It's not the 1.3 that supports 1333 FSB though.
I haven't updated the bios at all, so without being in front of my machine to check the version number the best anser I can give is 'what came on it'.


@ Imported

If your motherboard isn't beeping at all, you might not have your case speaker hooked up to it properly.

 

[Imported]

Originally posted by: Fx10
@ zjohnr

Originally posted by: zjohnr
In hindsight, I suppose I should have mentioned that FWIW I am using 2GB of Corsair XMS CM2X1024-6400 (TWIN2X2048-6400) which is what you've got, correct? The RAM is running with stock SPD timings at 800MHz with no problems that I am aware of. I've got my voltages set to manual (because I'm overclocking slightly ... FSB 266MHz vs 200 for stock) and the memory voltage is set to "Normal".

Yes, that's the memory I have. Newegg was having a nice sale/rebate on it.

[*]If you aren't already, use the defaults for the BIOS MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) settings.
The DS3 overclocks very well and I would not accept as truly functional any DS3 which would work only with the default settings. But when you're trying to isolate a problem it's best to minimize the number of things you've changed.

Still running the defaults. Didn't have time to get around to tweaking it.

I'm assuming you've got a rev 3.3 965P-DS3, correct? And the BIOS is level F10? (Mostly just curious ...)

I'm not sure which revision I'm running. It's not the 1.3 that supports 1333 FSB though.
I haven't updated the bios at all, so without being in front of my machine to check the version number the best anser I can give is 'what came on it'.


@ Imported

If your motherboard isn't beeping at all, you might not have your case speaker hooked up to it properly.

Ah.. No wonder. I just looked it up and it seems my P182 doesn't include a built-in speaker.

 

[irrationalJohn]

@Imported

So long as you've got the BIOS settings for the "onboard SATA controller" (aka JMicron 363 controller) set to "Enabled" and "IDE", you do not need to install any drivers. Just plug in the SATA device and it should be detected and work fine. You would need to install a device driver if you want to use either AHCI (link to Gigabyte's "What is AHCI?" FAQ) or RAID with the JMicron controller. (Personally, I don't think either is worth the hassle of setting it up ...)

About the speaker ... one quick way to test if you've got it hooked up is to enable one of the FAN Fail Warning settings in BIOS PC Health Status for a fan header which is not being used. When you reboot you should get a continuous ... and very annoying ... buzzing from the speaker until you turn off the warning and update the BIOS/reboot.

@Fx10

Originally posted by: Fx10
I'm not sure which revision I'm running. It's not the 1.3 that supports 1333 FSB though.

If you've ever curious, the revision number on Gigabyte motherboards is printed on the edge of the board near and parallel to the last PCI slot. Here's a link to GIGABYTE FAQ 2234 which shows you where to look for it.

-john

 

[Imported]

Thanks John!

 

[irrationalJohn]

Originally posted by: Imported
Ah.. No wonder. I just looked it up and it seems my P182 doesn't include a built-in speaker.

How strange and unexpected. :frown: While it is common these days to not include a speaker that is mounted to the case, usually the case maker will instead supply a small "button size" speaker which you plug directly onto the motherboard's speaker pins. (I'm pretty sure I've got one of those lying under a pile of junk someplace ... )

FWIW, I did some Googling about before writing this and saw a post to another board from someone who said he contacted Antec customer service about the missing speaker and they promptly mailed one of the button speakers out to him at no charge. I'd strongly suggest you try that route. While most of the time you don't need it, there are some important basic error codes that presented via the PC speaker. For that reason, I wouldn't want to operate a PC without a working PC speaker.

-john

 

[willslick]

after entering bios. control + f1

 

[Imported]

nvm.. found out that unless the source is multichannel when using an optical/coax cable, it'll only be 2.1 it seems.

 

[Imported]

I can't for the life of me find out how to get the front jack to auto-detect and work. I know I saw it somewhere, either in this thread or another.. but the search function is failing me. Could someone point me to the post that had it?

 

[Fx10]

About the speaker ... one quick way to test if you've got it hooked up is to enable one of the FAN Fail Warning settings in BIOS PC Health Status for a fan header which is not being used. When you reboot you should get a continuous ... and very annoying ... buzzing from the speaker until you turn off the warning and update the BIOS/reboot.

That actually turns out to be my problem. The the beeping was caused by the FAN fail warning going off. It looks like even with speed control turned off, my fan (stock intel fan) is only spinning at about 1700 rpm. It's 1000 with speed control turned on.....

As an addendum, what temperatures should I be expecting from my system? Right now my system temp is hovering around 42 and my proc temp at 30. Shouldn't they be the other way around? Where's the system temp being taken from on this board?

 

[avi85]

What are the differences between the different revisions? I've seen 1.3, 2.0 and 3.3
Also is there a difference in oc'ing capability?

 

[aclim]

Hey guys, gotta question,

I'm selling my p5b-e and getting a DS3 3.3 board, I already have Crucial 10th anniversary pc2 5300 ram. Will this work with the DS3?

I just don't like Asus anymore, too many problems with their stuff.

Thanks

 

[Fx10]

Originally posted by: avi85
What are the differences between the different revisions? I've seen 1.3, 2.0 and 3.3
Also is there a difference in oc'ing capability?

From checking the board specs it looks like the biggest difference is the front side bus supported by the boards. The newer ones support 1333 vs 1033.

 

[macpeteo]

Originally posted by: avi85
What are the differences between the different revisions? I've seen 1.3, 2.0 and 3.3
Also is there a difference in oc'ing capability?

Check this out:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=2030955


-Macpeteo