*** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

[wizet]

Originally posted by: wizet
I wrote an earlier thread asking about this issue I have found on my new PC. the people seemed to say that it was normal for the P965 Gigabyte boards to initially power on and then go off for 1 second and then power on again and load the OS. Has anyone else had similar experiences? Is it in fact normal?

I have found that when I keep the power plugged in at the mains, that the computer will come on right away when hitting on the on button, but when taken out of the mains it will go through the on off on process. Maybe its checking the power connectivity or something?

Please share.
If U know how to fix it plz Help
Thank U very much

PS. before that it's normally, after i updated BIOS to version F7 by @BIOS program.it be like that.

No one help me solve this problem T T plz help

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: SickNic

Originally posted by: redhawk56
Don't they just flash on the screen for just a millisecond or 2 after the post messages?

yeah, mines about 1-2 seconds, but I'd rather not even see them. It's kinda an eyesore to me.

The IRQ screen stays up for about 5 seconds for me (F7 bios). *shrug* It doesn't really bother me. The system runs great <--that's all that matters!

Side Note: Why is this thread no longer stickied?

 

[SickNic]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SickNic
Might be a noob question, but does anyone know how I can do a quick boot with this mobo? I don't really want to see my devices IRQ numbers when booting up.

Which bios are you using? The F7 bios has a flash screen of the Gigabyte logo if enabled. I run F6 so I don't know how long the logo stay on screen. It may or may not be long enough to prevent the IRQ numbers from showing.

I am using f7. I get the logo screen, but right after that it shows a list of all my devices and their IRQ number. Again it isn't long, but its an eyesore and I'd rather just have the logo up the whole time or a blan screen or something. I figured there'd be a way to quickboot or shut it off, but I guess not.

 

[wizet]

Power Cycle or Cycling the Power ? Turning the power off, and turning it back on again. If there is a power switch, this is the preferred way to power cycle, however for some NETGEAR devices the power cord is simply taken out and then put back in again. Because some devices carry an electric charge for a few seconds after having their power taken away, with the possible result of not really being power cycled, it's common to leave a device unpowered a few seconds before starting it again ? anyway, it never hurts to wait a little.

Most NETGEAR devices that are powered off are not functioning at all. However, other devices, such as many computers, are not powered off until their plug is removed from the wall. Be careful not to physically modify the insides of a computer that is still plugged in ? even if the power switch is off.

Is it the same thing happen to my motherboard call Power Cycle?

 

[redhawk56]

Beta Bios F8i showed up last night. I've heard some rumors that for some people it fixed some things. Nothing concrete yet though.

##Edit.....for the record, it seems pretty unstable for my configuration at lease. I'm running a D920@4ghz and Crucial Ballistix 667. My FSB was stable at 288 on F7. Trying to move it to 300 caused it to go through the famous bios reset off/on/off......didn't reset....off/on/off again........didn't reset.....had to turn the system off at the PSU 4 times and let it recycle to reset the bios. That never happened before.

I tried 1:1 3:4 and different combinations of voltages and settings and nothing over 288 would post consistantly. I am going back to F7 until the release a production bios that works.

 

[AdamK47]

I can't get 400MHz FSB stable no matter what I do with F8i. What a steaming pile of $%!*. Instead if helping, it hurt.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
I can't get 400MHz FSB stable no matter what I do with F8i. What a steaming pile of $%!*. Instead if helping, it hurt.

PM me your BIOS settings please and we will try to recreate your issues. With several different X6800s we reached 500~510 consistently with this BIOS.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch

Originally posted by: Gary Key

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
Are those S3 boards C2 already? Or still C1 like the DS3 boards?

Lot number 626 and up is C2.

hey, thx. lot number is printed on the board so i´d have to open the package i guess?

The easy way is to check the serial number printed on the outside of the box, it will read SN06XX as an example. On the DS3 and S3 boards you will want one that reads SN0636xxxx in order to hit the C2 steppings. There is no absolute guarantee this will result in a C2 MCH but chances are 98%+.

 

[koitsu]

Originally posted by: wizetNo one help me solve this problem T T plz help

This shouldn't happen with any BIOS labelled F6 or later. Make sure you reset to factory (optimised) defaults in the BIOS, save BIOS settings, reboot, then go into the BIOS and adjust things.

I've also noticed that adjusting any of the hardware monitoring settings (PWM vs. QST, etc.) causes the board to do this (re: save BIOS settings, powers off on its own for a few seconds, then powers back on).

EDIT: Fix was introduced, AFAIK, with F6. My original post said F4.

 

[koitsu]

Originally posted by: SickNic
I am using f7. I get the logo screen, but right after that it shows a list of all my devices and their IRQ number. Again it isn't long, but its an eyesore and I'd rather just have the logo up the whole time or a blan screen or something. I figured there'd be a way to quickboot or shut it off, but I guess not.

I have never in my entire life seen a BIOS that let you toggle this feature (re: displaying legacy-like post-BIOS-initialisation IRQ settings, COM port assignments, memory size, etc. in standard 80x25 text mode).

I can agree with you in regards to one aspect: the information being shown there is for legacy environments (x86 16-bit real mode, classic 16 IRQ environment (non-APIC), etc.). Those IRQs aren't what an APIC-utilising OS will use; so in that respect, yeah, it's generally pointless to show this information.

But personally, I prefer having it. It allows me to see what sorts-of IRQ insanity the BIOS is doing prior to the APIC being initialised (inside the OS).

My system delays for about 1 full second before booting into Windows, but I've only one drive, have the GIGABYTE2/JMicron RAID controller disabled, no floppy drive, no disc in my DVD-ROM, boot device order is DVD/HD/disabled, yadda yadda.

 

[koitsu]

Originally posted by: darkhorror
DS3 should be getting it's F8 bios today, unless it's delayed. It's supposed to fix a lot of the porblems with it, such as D9.

And according to the Gigabyte (Taiwan) site, the latest BIOS listed is still F7.

There's a 112-or-so-page thread over at XtremeSystems discussing all the BIOSes and sub-revisions of F8 (initially was F8, then F8a, then F8f, and now according to this board, F8i).

I'll be blunt: all of these problems are utterly retarded. "Micron D9 issue" tops the list, because Micron D9-based RAM was easily available (read: mainstream) when this board came out. Most people are not going out and buying Micron D9 RAM because it's fairly difficult to determine what Micron chip is being used on the sticks (unless the vendor explicitly tells you so; I think Geil does this). Consumers are essentially buying what should meet specifications, only to be greeted by failing systems, systems which won't power on, or other such nonsense. Now come to find out there's an *actual hardware engineering flaw* that involves replacing a resistor on the board?! Gigabyte should be recalling these boards and giving people newer revision boards.
(rant mode off)

 

[koitsu]

Originally posted by: Gary Key
The easy way is to check the serial number printed on the outside of the box, it will read SN06XX as an example. On the DS3 and S3 boards you will want one that reads SN0636xxxx in order to hit the C2 steppings. There is no absolute guarantee this will result in a C2 MCH but chances are 98%+.

Gary,

Can you or someone technically-savvy (no "I think it's..." or "d00d its loklolzz duh" responses) answer my two remaining questions?

1. What exactly are people referring to when they say ""C2 revision"". This term is being thrown around boards almost as much as "lol". I've read numerous posts from people saying it's an Intel P965 chipset revision, and also numerous posts from people saying it's a Gigabyte DS3 motherboard revision.

2. Regardless of what piece of hardware the revision applies to, why are people wanting it? Is there some sort-of known hardware flaw or bug in the C1 revision? If so, what is it, and where can I get a changelog (if there is one) of the changes between C1 and C2?

Thanks.

 

[Undersea]

I love this board.

I have a 1st revision. Hits 450fsb Easily,

So I can't run a quad processor. Lets see if it makes a difference in 6 months, I doubt it.

D9 runs on the board fine now but holds back your OC, for some it doesn't matter.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: koitsu

Originally posted by: Gary Key
The easy way is to check the serial number printed on the outside of the box, it will read SN06XX as an example. On the DS3 and S3 boards you will want one that reads SN0636xxxx in order to hit the C2 steppings. There is no absolute guarantee this will result in a C2 MCH but chances are 98%+.

Gary,

Can you or someone technically-savvy (no "I think it's..." or "d00d its loklolzz duh" responses) answer my two remaining questions?

1. What exactly are people referring to when they say ""C2 revision"". This term is being thrown around boards almost as much as "lol". I've read numerous posts from people saying it's an Intel P965 chipset revision, and also numerous posts from people saying it's a Gigabyte DS3 motherboard revision.

2. Regardless of what piece of hardware the revision applies to, why are people wanting it? Is there some sort-of known hardware flaw or bug in the C1 revision? If so, what is it, and where can I get a changelog (if there is one) of the changes between C1 and C2?

Thanks.

1. The C2 is the revised P965 stepping. The first P965 boards shipped with C1 and since mid-October most boards are now C2 based. There is no real performance difference between the chipsets. I did a satire on this very subject a few weeks ago.

2. The changes were minimal and the article that I linked to above will explain the differences between the two chipset revisions.

 

[Bad Dude]

I have the Zalman ZM-NB47J chipset cooler. Will it cools the NB better?

 

[Fiddy]

You know I'm curious. Is anyone running a fan on their northbridge who can't get above 450? I put a small 40mm x 10mm fan on mine to help cool it down and it's really not enough. I'm looking at going with a 40mm x 40mm x 20mm or a 50mm fan to cool it off. I would also suggest checking to see if the heatsink is loose. If it is then you will need to remove the heatsink from the mobo, clean off the TIM and put some decent paste on it.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: Bad Dude
I have the Zalman ZM-NB47J chipset cooler. Will it cools the NB better?

It will but try to make sure you have some airflow over it and use AS5 on it.

 

[JDawg1536]

Does this board not have RAID drivers for Vista yet? When I try to install it doesnt recognizing my raptor drives in RAID 0.....

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Does this board not have RAID drivers for Vista yet? When I try to install it doesnt recognizing my raptor drives in RAID 0.....

Try these - Beta JM363 Vista Drivers - until the official ones are released next month.

 

[msgclb]

Here's my current idle temperatures that I get with these tools:

Core Temp: Core #0: 53°C; Core #1: 51°C
TAT: CPU 0: 53°C; CPU 1: 50°C
SpeedFan: 31°C
Hardware Monitor: 31°C

Which one do I believe? Before I got my E6400 I was only relying on SpeedFan. At that time I was using the F7 BIOS and compared Hardware Monitor with SpeedFan and since they were usually the same I used SpeedFan.

With the F8i BIOS for some reason SpeedFan stopped working so I removed it and used Core Temp. I notice my idle and load temps were much higher so I started looking for a water solution! I just reloaded SpeedFan and noticed the large temperature difference. Now I'm wondering if my SpeedFan temps are ok.

I'd like Gary Key to comment on this considering that during his reviews he must be using something to monitor temperatures. Of course this doesn't preclude comments by anybody else.

Edited:
I booted to BIOS and found the following:
CPU Temperature: 32°C

When I returned to Windows I found the following:

Core Temp: Core #0: 52°C; Core #1: 48°C
SpeedFan: 31°C

 

[koitsu]

Originally posted by: msgclb
Here's my current idle temperatures that I get with these tools:

Core Temp: Core #0: 53°C; Core #1: 51°C
TAT: CPU 0: 53°C; CPU 1: 50°C
SpeedFan: 31°C
Hardware Monitor: 31°C

Which one do I believe?

See Page 28, my post starting with the words "Believe the following apps only:" I explain details there.

 

[amenx]

Originally posted by: Fiddy
You know I'm curious. Is anyone running a fan on their northbridge who can't get above 450? I put a small 40mm x 10mm fan on mine to help cool it down and it's really not enough. I'm looking at going with a 40mm x 40mm x 20mm or a 50mm fan to cool it off. I would also suggest checking to see if the heatsink is loose. If it is then you will need to remove the heatsink from the mobo, clean off the TIM and put some decent paste on it.

I put an old Pentium II CPU fan on my northbridge which runs at about 5600rpm, seems to cool it OK, but I havent gone past 400fsb nor have I tried.

 

[d00dz]

I just got this board (F4 BIOS) along with 2gb Corsair XMS2 PC6400 and a Thermaltake Purepower 600w with an E6400 CPU.

I'm now having problems where my PC always automatically turns off seconds after I boot it. On each hard boot, I can get to the BIOS screen but won't have time to actually tinker with it before my PC shuts off. On succeeding boots, I notice that it automatically turns off less than a second after the CPU fan starts spinning.

I've tried changing PSUs and video cards but the same problem persists. I'm guessing it has to do with the motherboard, RAM or processor (or its fan).

Anyone have an idea on how to solve this? I'm really bummed out

 

[amenx]

Originally posted by: d00dz
I just got this board (F4 BIOS) along with 2gb Corsair XMS2 PC6400 and a Thermaltake Purepower 600w with an E6400 CPU.

I'm now having problems where my PC always automatically turns off seconds after I boot it. On each hard boot, I can get to the BIOS screen but won't have time to actually tinker with it before my PC shuts off. On succeeding boots, I notice that it automatically turns off less than a second after the CPU fan starts spinning.

I've tried changing PSUs and video cards but the same problem persists. I'm guessing it has to do with the motherboard, RAM or processor (or its fan).

Anyone have an idea on how to solve this? I'm really bummed out

Did you try booting with only 1 RAM stick?

 

[d00dz]

Yeah I tried out booting with each single stick. No go

Is the F4 BIOS known for RAM incompatibility with Corsairs? Mine has product code TWIN2X2048-6400C4.