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redhawk56

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Originally posted by: MrMet
How reliable is the CPU temp monitor in Easy COol 5? Shows my CPU as being 44 degrees celcius. Havent done any OC"ing yet. I see everyone else has temps in the low 30's. Any ideas on how to remidy this. I do have a Arctic freezer pro 7 on the way. Thanks in advance


Can you fill in your specs? What cpu...etc?
 

MrMet

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E6400, f5 bios, 2 gigs corsair 5400 ddr2, coolermaster 550w PSU, On board vid being used currently. Easy tune 5 is telling me 48 celcius right now. Only using netscape, nop other programs running.
 

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I love this motherboard. Also love core 2 duo 6300, i mean a %50 overclock on stock HSF is pretty impressive no matter how you look at it.
 

redhawk56

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Originally posted by: MrMet
E6400, f5 bios, 2 gigs corsair 5400 ddr2, coolermaster 550w PSU, On board vid being used currently. Easy tune 5 is telling me 48 celcius right now. Only using netscape, nop other programs running.
What motherboard do you have exactly.

 

redhawk56

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Originally posted by: MrMet
Gigabyte GA-965G-DS3 F5 Bios
There must be some mistake. I thought you said you were using onboard vid? The DS3 doesnt' have onboard Video. Did I misunderstand you?
 

redhawk56

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My mistake.......i see now it is a 965G. I should have more coffee before I read these things.

I would guess one of two things, your heatsink might need to me reinstalled with new AS5 per their instructions. Or you may need more airflow in your case. Maybe both.
 

Undersea

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How reliable is the CPU temp monitor in Easy COol 5? Shows my CPU as being 44 degrees celcius. Havent done any OC"ing yet. I see everyone else has temps in the low 30's. Any ideas on how to remidy this. I do have a Arctic freezer pro 7 on the way. Thanks in advance

No software monitoring is perfect, in fact far from it.

This software is suppose to be accurate:

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

A sensor is the best. But you can use Easy tune to monitor temp change even if it isn't perfectly accurate.

Good Luck!
 

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I apologize profusely if this has been mentioned somewhere in this thread, but since the search function is borked, has a solution to the IDE/PIO/DMA problems been found? I've read on other forums that the F4 BIOS fixed this error, but my DVD-RW is still reading things at 1x with the F7 BIOS. None of the suggested fixes I've read here have helped so far.
 

redhawk56

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Originally posted by: Pollock
I apologize profusely if this has been mentioned somewhere in this thread, but since the search function is borked, has a solution to the IDE/PIO/DMA problems been found? I've read on other forums that the F4 BIOS fixed this error, but my DVD-RW is still reading things at 1x with the F7 BIOS. None of the suggested fixes I've read here have helped so far.
I am running two SataII drives in Raid 0 on the JMicron controller. So now that you mention it, I don't see my Dvd drive in the bios where it usually would be. It shows up on the screen with the two raid drives. I checked in device manager and it is running in ultra dma mode 2. I haven't noticed any problems with it, but I don't use it much. I am on bios F8i. I have a screen shot of my device manage if you want to see it.

 

Kamyk

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Hello everyone

(I'm new here)

I have the following problem:
After reflashing BIOS from F1 to F7, my IDE optical drive is stuck in PIO mode.
The drive was working smootlly under F1 initial BIOS. DVD was set to UltraDMA 2 mode.
I dont have gigabyte sata drivers installed, no raid enabled, my dvd drive is Toshiba sd1612
(which is the best optical drive I've ever had). Does F7 BIOS cause incompatibility issues ???
Anybody please help !!!

Config:

GA 965 DS3 F7
Core 2 Duo E6300 (no overclocking... not yet)
2x512 MB DDR2 800 Patriot LLK (4-4-4-12)
nvidia geforce 7600 GT
Maxtor 250 GB SATA2 connected to ICH8 (orange)
Toshiba IDE DVD Drive
Chieftec gps 450

 

Undersea

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About the IDE controller, you have 2 choices:


1) If your HDs are plugged into one of ICH8's SATA ports, just change the following BIOS setting:

Integrated Peripherals -> Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode -> IDE mode

Reboot and, once again, enter BIOS Setup and open the Standard CMOS Features menu.

Press ENTER to autodetect devices on IDE Channel 4 Master, then change Extended IDE Drive and Access Mode to Auto.

If you have a slave IDE device, do the same on IDE Channel 4 Slave and finally Save & Exit Setup.

At the POST screen, you'll see your IDE devices being detected by the BIOS and the Gigabyte IDE/SATA BIOS will no longer be loaded, resulting in a faster boot.

This is the best way to use DVD/CD drives, because the Main BIOS handles the device detection and you can even choose CD-ROM in the Boot Menu (F12 key).

If you have already installed the JMicron driver, just change the driver to Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller. Now you can see/change the transfer mode of the IDE devices. Just open the properties of the third Primary IDE Channel in Device Manager.




2) If your HDs are plugged into one of Gigabyte's SATA2 ports, just change the following BIOS setting:

Integrated Peripherals -> Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode -> AHCI mode

In this mode, the IDE port and the SATA ports are detected as standalone devices, Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller and GIGABYTE GBB36X Controller, respectively.

Now you can see/change the transfer mode of the IDE devices. Just open the properties of the third Primary IDE Channel in Device Manager.


From page 28. Hope it helps

 

redhawk56

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I read a recommendation from GB that when you update the bios from F1 to F7 for example, that you should update from F1 to F4 and then F7. Also I know you should set the options to clear dmi and pnp when you updater the bios. Does any of that help?
 

redhawk56

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Originally posted by: Undersea
About the IDE controller, you have 2 choices:


1) If your HDs are plugged into one of ICH8's SATA ports, just change the following BIOS setting:

Integrated Peripherals -> Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode -> IDE mode

Reboot and, once again, enter BIOS Setup and open the Standard CMOS Features menu.

Press ENTER to autodetect devices on IDE Channel 4 Master, then change Extended IDE Drive and Access Mode to Auto.

If you have a slave IDE device, do the same on IDE Channel 4 Slave and finally Save & Exit Setup.

At the POST screen, you'll see your IDE devices being detected by the BIOS and the Gigabyte IDE/SATA BIOS will no longer be loaded, resulting in a faster boot.

This is the best way to use DVD/CD drives, because the Main BIOS handles the device detection and you can even choose CD-ROM in the Boot Menu (F12 key).

If you have already installed the JMicron driver, just change the driver to Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller. Now you can see/change the transfer mode of the IDE devices. Just open the properties of the third Primary IDE Channel in Device Manager.




2) If your HDs are plugged into one of Gigabyte's SATA2 ports, just change the following BIOS setting:

Integrated Peripherals -> Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode -> AHCI mode

In this mode, the IDE port and the SATA ports are detected as standalone devices, Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller and GIGABYTE GBB36X Controller, respectively.

Now you can see/change the transfer mode of the IDE devices. Just open the properties of the third Primary IDE Channel in Device Manager.


From page 28. Hope it helps

What if you are running raid 0?

 

redhawk56

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Since mine shows DMA mode 2 on the controller in device manager, I assume they have addressed this somehow. I was just curious what the instructions were for raid. As for the other guy, I think he said he already did what you posted and it didn't help him. Not sure how to fix or test that for him.
 

Undersea

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I know I loaded the newest chipset drivers and it messed up my Optical drive.

The way I fixed it was as above going into bios and finding the drive again and it works fine for me.

In every case I've seen if people play with the bios they will get the drives working. Gigabyte should write a little section on the IDE controller and make it easier on everyone.

Maybe a little betterplace to get that help.

http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102
 

Stormcloud

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Originally posted by: koitsu
Something for other DS3 owners:

Can some (all?) of you check your Windows Event Log (Administrative Tools -> Event Log), under System events, and see if you've received any Error conditions during heavy interrupt usage (i.e. heavy audio + video (gaming), heavy disk I/O, etc.)?

The reason I ask:

I've been playing a couple different 3D games tonight, and every so often, I've heard what sounds like a "click" coming from the inside of my system, then a brief system stall (1 second tops), then the system would resume operation.

Now, the first thing I'd assume is that it's a hard disk problem. I checked SMART statistics on the drive itself using smartctl under Cygwin, and found the drive to be in tip-top shape. (The drive is a SATA drive). I also use a SATA DVD drive (Plextor).

I'm well aware of one condition that can cause exactly what I'm seeing: when a bus is held in a suspended state too long (that is, interrupts are disabled on that particular IRQ for a long period of time), drivers in the OS can attempt to force a reset of that bus via the IRQ. This takes awhile to happen, and during that time, the entire system is basically in a degraded or broken state as the OS tries to work around whatever is going on with interrupts. Sometimes this works, other times it doesn't. Under perfect operation (no drive issues, properly implemented interrupt handler, working BIOS, etc.), this should never happen.

I checked the Event Viewer to see if there was anything suspicious. Lo and behold:

The device, \Device\Ide\IdePort1, did not respond within the timeout period.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

This is the port associated with my SATA DVD drive. All of these devices have worked fantastic on my previous system (AMD X2 + nForce 4 Ultra-based), but it's important to remember that the SATA bus in general is probably being held/suspended while the OS tries to reset what it refers to as "IdePort1".

An improper APIC setup in the BIOS, or other IRQ/interrupt problems (such as too many devices sharing one IRQ -- e.g. video + sound + ATA all on the same IRQ) can induce this exact problem.


I think you're on to something here. My specs :

2 x 250GB WD 2500KS SATA2 16Mb cache (hooked on ORANGE Intel SATA 0 & 1 connectors)
E6600
965P-S3 (not DS3)
F5 BIOS (was on F6 but flashed back to F5 after it first showed up)

PROBLEM :
I've got an S3 (not DS3) board which exhibited these same errors under Windows Event Log, and when it fails .... it fails spectacularly.
I lose my SATA HDD and BIOS screws it up with rubbish char and XP boots after 10-15 mins to cut the story short.

"An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk1\D during a paging operaton."
"The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D."
"The device, \Device\Ide\IdePort2, did not respond within the timeout period."

The first time it happened was when I was multitasking while the DVDROM was installing a big game. The second time it happened was when I was reloading savegames repeatedly from Medieval II (a few minutes before, I was browsing its DVD in the DVDROM).

When it first happened, I had to re-install XP from scratch i.e delete all partitions, re-create and format. Any attempt to format without deleting the old partition would inexplicably fail. The second time it happened, it took out the 2nd HDD and I got it back after a few reboots and messing around with the BIOS HDD autodetect.

The HDDs are fine, I'm thinking the S3/DS3 board may have some issues with the JMicron controller ATAPI or possibly a problem specific to WD 2500KS drives. Googling turns up a few bits and pieces but nothing concrete. This insiduous problem may be overlooked by most.


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Update 11/30/06 :

**caution - only for those with non-RAID enabled systems**

Fyi, did a little more intensive digging ... root cause is most likely the JMicron drivers.
My version was 1.14 and "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller" WAS MISSING in my Device Manager. I was wondering where the DVD-RW DMA settings were when it didn't show up. Now it shows up as UDMA 2.

This link really helped. Check the JMicron instructions.

http://www.thepatri0t.net/2006/10/14/asus-p5b-deluxe-problems-solution/

My final list for "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" :
-Intel(R) ICH8 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2825
-Intel(R) ICH8 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2820
- Primary IDE Channel
- Primary IDE Channel
- Primary IDE Channel
-Secondary IDE Channel
-Secondary IDE Channel
-Secondary IDE Channel
-Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller


 

redhawk56

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I hear that same noise in mine but I've determined it is coming from the cpu fan control. I put water cooling on for 2 weeks and never heard it the entire time. I put the cpu fan back on last night and it started up again.

Mine however is not associated with any errors or stalls. There is only the noise. I believe it is the same noise I hear during startup when there is about a 2 second delay before the cpu fan starts.

I have a sata 120 on the ich8 and 2 sata II in raid0 on the jmicron. But I don't think the disks have anything to do with mine. I think it is a fan control/power issue.
 

redhawk56

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OK......I promise I wasn't smoking anything before I typed this.

As a part of my testing of F8i this afternoon, I was testing my memory overclocking. My memory has run at DDR904 on another motherboard so I wanted to see how close I could get.

MY mistake, I must have been smoking something afterall.

Edited to correct my stupidity :>
 

Undersea

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redhawk thats a first.

Never heard of that before. Usually the computer or bios seems to resolve things itself when rebooting.

It had been my experience with this board its much happier on auto settings for memory. Just seems to work better.
 

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Originally posted by: redhawk56
I read a recommendation from GB that when you update the bios from F1 to F7 for example, that you should update from F1 to F4 and then F7. Also I know you should set the options to clear dmi and pnp when you updater the bios. Does any of that help?

I tried flashing to F1 to F4 to F7, in multiple combinations, to no avail. I'm pretty much giving up for now.
 

Pollock

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Originally posted by: redhawk56
Can I ask how it is that you determine the drive is running at 1x?

In particular, DVD Decrypter would not go above 1x. Also, it took at least half an hour to reinstall Company of Heroes last week (hardly any time at all the first time), at least half an hour for BF2, and quite possibly at least an hour for Flight Sim X (albeit that's 15GB). Those are not normal install times, I can tell you. The cursor also really lags and skips whenever the DVD drive (NEC 3500) is accessed at all, so there's got to be some kind of problem between these two.
 

redhawk56

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Can you expand the device manager and show the controller properties above your dvd drive. Mine shows DMA mode 2 I believe.
 
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