*** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

[redhawk56]

Damned if they didn't announce the DS3P (version 2) this morning. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy about the future of any fixes on this board.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: redhawk56
Damned if they didn't announce the DS3P (version 2) this morning. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy about the future of any fixes on this board.

The DS3P is an entirely different board with support for dual PCI-E graphics cards. This is not the DS3 Rev. 2.0.

You had me worried for a bit there... I haven't even received my new board yet and you had me wanting to return it for the "new" version.

 

[redhawk56]

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: redhawk56
Damned if they didn't announce the DS3P (version 2) this morning. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy about the future of any fixes on this board.

The DS3P is an entirely different board with support for dual PCI-E graphics cards. This is not the DS3 Rev. 2.0.

You had me worried for a bit there... I haven't even received my new board yet and you had me wanting to return it for the "new" version.

The DS3P V2 is the version two of the DS3. You don't see a version one of the DS3P? Do you?

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: redhawk56

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: redhawk56
Damned if they didn't announce the DS3P (version 2) this morning. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy about the future of any fixes on this board.

The DS3P is an entirely different board with support for dual PCI-E graphics cards. This is not the DS3 Rev. 2.0.

You had me worried for a bit there... I haven't even received my new board yet and you had me wanting to return it for the "new" version.

The DS3P V2 is the version two of the DS3. You don't see a version one of the DS3P? Do you?

I don't see a second PCI-E slot on the first version, do you? There are more SATA ports(8 versus 6) and one less PCI port.

It's not the same board.

 

[redhawk56]

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: redhawk56

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: redhawk56
Damned if they didn't announce the DS3P (version 2) this morning. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy about the future of any fixes on this board.

The DS3P is an entirely different board with support for dual PCI-E graphics cards. This is not the DS3 Rev. 2.0.

You had me worried for a bit there... I haven't even received my new board yet and you had me wanting to return it for the "new" version.

The DS3P V2 is the version two of the DS3. You don't see a version one of the DS3P? Do you?

I don't see a second PCI-E slot on the first version, do you? There are more SATA ports(8 versus 6) and one less PCI port.

It's not the same board.

Of course it isn't the same board. It is version 2.

Edit ++ The specs are not clear on this but the manual shows the Jmicron is still there. That is why there are 8 sata's now. Two of the ports are the Jmicron and 6 are the ICH8R. That makes no sense at all. The manual says the Jmicron is still controlling the IDE and that is a huge problem as i see it. ICH8R can do the ide and they have made a big mistake by not moving them there. And they decided to add a PCIE for crossfire and they had to remove a pci slot to do that.

I really don't need to argue about it though. It is clear that it is the DS3 replacement or why would they call it DS3p version 2 when there had never been a DS3p version 1? And last week they added version 1 to the name of the DS3.

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: redhawk56
ICH8R can do the ide and they have made a big mistake by not moving them there.

Incorrect. Intel had decided to remove all IDE support for the ICH8/ICH8R chipset; it's "SATA only".
Thus, the necessity for adding on a 3rd-party (JMicron) IDE controller, since SATA optical drives are still scarce.

 

[zagood]

Originally posted by: redhawk56
They did have major issues with that Creative XFi soundcard. not sure if it is xfi or just xi.
Not sure if they got those fixed.
Hope Gary reads all this. He is our only hope of getting it passed to GB to the right people.

Haven't had any problems with my X-Fi XtremeMusic. Drivers 5.12.18.1181. Have run it both with just the drivers, and with all the bloatware. Bios F7.

-z

 

[vailr]

A slightly newer JMicron driver was released today:
1.17.07.06 WHQL
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/jmicron.htm

 

[redhawk56]

Originally posted by: vailr

Originally posted by: redhawk56
ICH8R can do the ide and they have made a big mistake by not moving them there.

Incorrect. Intel had decided to remove all IDE support for the ICH8/ICH8R chipset; it's "SATA only".
Thus, the necessity for adding on a 3rd-party (JMicron) IDE controller, since SATA optical drives are still scarce.

So I don't feel screwed anymore!

 

[redhawk56]

For those of you who thought the DS3P V2 wasn't the version 2 of the DS3, take a look at the marketing literature from GB on the version 2.

What is that you see on the box????

http://www.gigabyte.co.jp/nippon/965p-ds3p-2/965p-ds3p-2.html

 

[berny9ii]

Originally posted by: redhawk56
For those of you who thought the DS3P V2 wasn't the version 2 of the DS3, take a look at the marketing literature from GB on the version 2.

What is that you see on the box????

http://www.gigabyte.co.jp/nippon/965p-ds3p-2/965p-ds3p-2.html

check out the gigabyte site looks like they added 1394... did they fix the memory problem?

 

[redhawk56]

Who knows.....

There are a lot of changes though. The Atx12v is now an 8 pin. The power setup is much different. I won't buy one. They can give me one to replace this one though.

 

[Ayah]

Oh my, I want one of these and a shiny new Core 2 Duo now.

 

[vzmr82]

Hi guys

I need your help on my new machine I just built up, based on 965P-DS3, where I am getting some delays in the disk I/O activities, just on the RAID disks.

The system is like this:

GA-965p-DS3 F7 / E6600 @ 3,24ghz (FSB 405*8)
Watercooled Thermaltake Bigwater 735
Corsair HX-Series 520W
TEAM XTREEM 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 @4-4-4-12 1.9v
MSI GeForce NX7600GT-T2D256E
2xMaxtor DiamondMax 10 80GB Raid 0 & Western Digital WD3200KS 320GB
DVD Writer Samsung SH-W163A, internal SATA
(NO IDE drives - floppy disk is on USB).

The system is running apparently fine, at 25º iddle, at passed all stress and memory tests, never going over 60º at full throutle.

I installed XP and RAID JMicron drives were updated yesterday to last version (1.17.07.06 WHQL).

But what is happening is that I get bootup times of around 120s and any disk activity based on the raid disks takes forever. Yesterday I tried to run DGIndex over the non raid disk and the raid disks and the difference half the time. I also runned Bootvis and it clear shows some I/O delays over drive C:.

What could be causing this? Power failure? Cable problems? Does anyone have an idea?

Thanks

 

[redhawk56]

Originally posted by: vzmr82
Hi guys

I need your help on my new machine I just built up, based on 965P-DS3, where I am getting some delays in the disk I/O activities, just on the RAID disks.

The system is like this:

GA-965p-DS3 F7 / E6600 @ 3,24ghz (FSB 405*8)
Watercooled Thermaltake Bigwater 735
Corsair HX-Series 520W
TEAM XTREEM 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 @4-4-4-12 1.9v
MSI GeForce NX7600GT-T2D256E
2xMaxtor DiamondMax 10 80GB Raid 0 & Western Digital WD3200KS 320GB
DVD Writer Samsung SH-W163A, internal SATA
(NO IDE drives - floppy disk is on USB).

The system is running apparently fine, at 25º iddle, at passed all stress and memory tests, never going over 60º at full throutle.

I installed XP and RAID JMicron drives were updated yesterday to last version (1.17.07.06 WHQL).

But what is happening is that I get bootup times of around 120s and any disk activity based on the raid disks takes forever. Yesterday I tried to run DGIndex over the non raid disk and the raid disks and the difference half the time. I also runned Bootvis and it clear shows some I/O delays over drive C:.

What could be causing this? Power failure? Cable problems? Does anyone have an idea?

Thanks

I got 45 seconds startup time just now when i timed it. That was from pushing the power button to where I could start a desktop icon.

I think you should run HDTach on the raid volume and report back the numbers. I can compare them to mine and see where you are.

 

[vzmr82]

Thanks redhwak56. I'll do that this evenning and report back the numbers.

But I definitely have a problem as I can?t understand how running DGIndex takes 4,5 minutes to run on the raid disks and less than 2 in the single SATA 320Gb disk.

 

[redhawk56]

I have no idea what DGindex is. Sorry.

 

[vzmr82]

DGIndex is an indexer of video files in MPEG2 format. Usually used for coding a DVD into Xvid (or Divx or H264) format. It takes the VOB files of the DVD, previously ripped to disk, and creates an index, in TXT format, with some kind of information relevant for that process.

Usually a film or video in MPEG2 is more than 4Gb long (in 1Gb VOB files) and the D2V file created in around 500k of text.

So it is a file intensive process...

 

[imaheadcase]

It seems normal yet you did not actually compare. Good testing. lol No wonder you can't get Vista to install on your drive

 

[redhawk56]

Well i updated to the new Sata drivers and copied 6.35 GB Mpeg file from my Sata I on the ICH8 to the Sata II Raid0 drives on the Jmicron in exactly 120 seconds. So I'm not seeing any slowdown associated with the new drivers. Don't know what it could be.

 

[redhawk56]

Originally posted by: imaheadcase
It seems normal yet you did not actually compare. Good testing. lol No wonder you can't get Vista to install on your drive

Who mentioned vista? I am losing track of conversations i guess.

 

[vzmr82]

This delay existed before the update to the new drivers. I eventually thought it would be a problem that could be solved just by updating to the newer version but it isn't so.

The problem was there with 1.14, then 1.16 and now with 1.17...

 

[vzmr82]

Originally posted by: redhawk56

Originally posted by: vzmr82
Hi guys

I need your help on my new machine I just built up, based on 965P-DS3, where I am getting some delays in the disk I/O activities, just on the RAID disks.

The system is like this:

GA-965p-DS3 F7 / E6600 @ 3,24ghz (FSB 405*8)
Watercooled Thermaltake Bigwater 735
Corsair HX-Series 520W
TEAM XTREEM 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 @4-4-4-12 1.9v
MSI GeForce NX7600GT-T2D256E
2xMaxtor DiamondMax 10 80GB Raid 0 & Western Digital WD3200KS 320GB
DVD Writer Samsung SH-W163A, internal SATA
(NO IDE drives - floppy disk is on USB).

The system is running apparently fine, at 25º iddle, at passed all stress and memory tests, never going over 60º at full throutle.

I installed XP and RAID JMicron drives were updated yesterday to last version (1.17.07.06 WHQL).

But what is happening is that I get bootup times of around 120s and any disk activity based on the raid disks takes forever. Yesterday I tried to run DGIndex over the non raid disk and the raid disks and the difference half the time. I also runned Bootvis and it clear shows some I/O delays over drive C:.

What could be causing this? Power failure? Cable problems? Does anyone have an idea?

Thanks

I got 45 seconds startup time just now when i timed it. That was from pushing the power button to where I could start a desktop icon.

I think you should run HDTach on the raid volume and report back the numbers. I can compare them to mine and see where you are.

Ok, I just run HDTach on my both volumes (RAID and single SATA).

I don't know how to interpret these numbers so I am posting the image with the graphic results.

HDTach Results

I don?t understand why the RAID volume has a different line set than the SATA drive. The SATA has a simple slightly downwards line, and the RAID is more an up/down line.

Strange, isn?t it?

 

[redhawk56]

I would say that is very odd. The times don't look bad, they actually look quite good. But the graph is rather wild.

Defrag?

Chkdsk?

I think you will have a hard time tracking this one down. Maybe gary can help you with it.

Shaking my head!!

 

[vzmr82]

Do you think there is a possibility of having 1 or the 2 disks with problems?

Eventually I should move the contents of the volume to another disk, make that bootable and kill the RAID to perform individual analysis of the disks...