*** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

[Conky]

Originally posted by: redhawk56
For those of you who thought the DS3P V2 wasn't the version 2 of the DS3, take a look at the marketing literature from GB on the version 2.

What is that you see on the box????

http://www.gigabyte.co.jp/nippon/965p-ds3p-2/965p-ds3p-2.html

Well, I guess you were wrong because now there is an official DS3 Rev.2.0 version and it's not called the DS3P.

Link

Now, the big question is "what did they change" and a question for me... if you had a DS3 Rev1.0 being delivered to your house then what do you do?

My overclocking goals for this board are pretty modest but if I can get the newer version simply by sending back an unopened package it's very tempting. If the new version is better, of course.

Gary!!! We need you! :laugh:

 

[EKTELESTES]

It is CALLED DS3P REV 2.0 !!

Look @ the official page, it's up NOW !

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mot...roductID=2418&ProductName=GA-965P-DS3P

Actually, the DS3P seems to be a different MOBO.

They have a DS3 REV 1.0, A DS3 REV2.0 and a DS3P REV 2.0

LOOOOL ^^

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
It is CALLED DS3P REV 2.0 !!

Look @ the official page, it's up NOW !

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mot...roductID=2418&ProductName=GA-965P-DS3P

Now try this link. Text

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
It is CALLED DS3P REV 2.0 !!

Look @ the official page, it's up NOW !

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mot...roductID=2418&ProductName=GA-965P-DS3P

Actually, it's a different MOBO.

They have a DS3 REV 1.0, A DS3 REV2.0 AND DS3P REV 2.0

LOOOOL ^^

Yeah, it can get pretty confusing sometimes.

I just wanna know what the differences are between Rev1.0 and Rev2.0. :thumbsup:

 

[EKTELESTES]

yep, too confusing as they keep updating the website like every hour

the comparison sheet is not updated at all though

One difference that can be seen in the OVERVIEW is that Ds3 REV 2.0 has FIREWIRE and it says "quad core optimized"

My guess is that the firewire and optimizations are the only changes ( not bad though )

 

[tastyratz]

guys ill tell you one thing ive learned from gigabytes site its that its horribly inaccurate.

anyone read my post?

I have a ds3 rev 2.0 and it DOES NOT HAVE FIREWIRE. It clearly states rev 2.0 on the corner of the board, and I stated all the changes I was able to spot in my post up top. Im sure theres plenty of other changes that arent clearly visible, so I would love to see an itemized list showing the changes.

I have the cutout for firewire on the backplate but there is NOT any firewire on the board!!! There were no firewire headers included either, and as far as I can see I dont see any pin headers on the board making it "firewire ready"

newegg already has the rev 2s because thats what they shipped me with my order...

 

[Ricochet]

Ok, I'm confused. Are there two different boards: DS3 Rev 2.0 and DS3P Rev 2.0?

tastyratz, how does yours compare to the pictures of the DS3P? Maybe one has firewire support and the other does not, but both uses the same I/O plate.

 

[tastyratz]

ricochet,
Looking at the picture the northbridge and southbridge heatsinks are exactly the same. Mine still only has one pci-x16. Same layout for the slots. Everything else looks like the same lame color scheme and layout. I see 1 audio connector under that pci, im pretty sure I have 2. Might have shuffled the sata ports a little but ill look later. Still has the IDE connector in the same bad placement as before, not nice to the side like the 3p.

(Im at work right now im running off memory)

regarding the fan headers, theres 1 right above the pci-x slot up top towards the backplate side, one above the ram towards the cpu socket, one between the floppy and ram, and one under that a little lower

 

[tastyratz]

k took a little lok again, its confirmed. You can actually view pictures of the motherboard on the website and compare, they do look different and it does look accurate to what I have in comparison

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mot.../Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2314

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mot.../Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2424

click enlarge view and it will zoom in on a pic of the boards.
you can see what I mean on the heatsinks as well theres an obvious difference in the way they look.
fwiw it seems the most I can push out of my board is 412mhz fsb stable with more time tonight. My setup:

ocz platinum 2x1gb 800mhz ram w 2.0v and 4-4-4-15 factory.
e6400 cpu @1.4v
rev 2 ds3 mobo @f7 bios
thermaltake heatpipe silent northbridge cooler
ocz powerstream 700w
xfx 6600gt pci-x card
36gb raptor
sound blaster live 5.1 converted to an audigy
corsair nautilus watercooling system and koolance hard drive waterblock for the raptor

relaxing the timing from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-15 did not gain me a single mhz. Ram was at 2.2v during testing, and runs exactly the same at 2.0v and 4-4-4-12. Upping from 1.4 to 1.4375 didnt give me a single mhz, just heat. anything below 1.4 isnt enough though. Relaxing the fsb and mch from +2 to +1 doesnt make a difference in stability. Seems like ive hit a wall here and fingers are pointing towards the motherboard being the culprit. Otherwhise, I should be able to pump some more voltage, relax some timings, and atleast get a small amount more clock. seems solid as a rock at 412mhz and peaks at about 55-56c after an hour of orthos and the radiator fan set to corsairs "low" setting.

(I might have a low post count at anandtech, but I just realized they had a forum. Im not new to overclocking or watercooling, been at it for years)

 

[Conky]

Looking at the Gigabyte website and using their "comparison sheet" thing gives you THIS.

The only difference they show is a change to the onboard sound which is of no use to me as I have a soundcard.

My DS3 Rev1.0 showed up today. Still trying to figure out whether to keep it or to send it back and get the Rev2.0. I've seen nothing compelling so far to make it worth the trouble of sending it back.

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: tastyratz
k took a little lok again, its confirmed. You can actually view pictures of the motherboard on the website and compare, they do look different and it does look accurate to what I have in comparison

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mot.../Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2314

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mot.../Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2424

click enlarge view and it will zoom in on a pic of the boards.
you can see what I mean on the heatsinks as well theres an obvious difference in the way they look.
fwiw it seems the most I can push out of my board is 412mhz fsb stable with more time tonight. My setup:

ocz platinum 2x1gb 800mhz ram w 2.0v and 4-4-4-15 factory.
e6400 cpu @1.4v
rev 2 ds3 mobo @f7 bios
thermaltake heatpipe silent northbridge cooler
ocz powerstream 700w
xfx 6600gt pci-x card
36gb raptor
sound blaster live 5.1 converted to an audigy
corsair nautilus watercooling system and koolance hard drive waterblock for the raptor

relaxing the timing from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-15 did not gain me a single mhz. Ram was at 2.2v during testing, and runs exactly the same at 2.0v and 4-4-4-12. Upping from 1.4 to 1.4375 didnt give me a single mhz, just heat. anything below 1.4 isnt enough though. Relaxing the fsb and mch from +2 to +1 doesnt make a difference in stability. Seems like ive hit a wall here and fingers are pointing towards the motherboard being the culprit. Otherwhise, I should be able to pump some more voltage, relax some timings, and atleast get a small amount more clock. seems solid as a rock at 412mhz and peaks at about 55-56c after an hour of orthos and the radiator fan set to corsairs "low" setting.

(I might have a low post count at anandtech, but I just realized they had a forum. Im not new to overclocking or watercooling, been at it for years)

They changed several components adjacent to the CPU socket, probably needed for better Quad Core CPU compatability. And for better D9 memory overclocking.

 

[FightTest]

To shift gears back to an older topic, has anyone ever actually had a problem with the NB getting too hot?

I just opened my case to check on a noise (one of my 80mm case fans is dying, I think), and while I was in there I touched my NB heatsink to see just how how it got. It's barely even warm. Certainly not nearly as hot as people in the past have made it out to be. And I'm at 426FSB.

The horror stories I heard before made me think the thing would send me to a hospital burn ward at 400FSB. Maybe I'm lucky or something but mine is perfectly fine.

 

[Stormcloud]

Hi ... I've got a wierd problem with an P965-S3 (F5 BIOS), 2 SATA connected on orange Intel ICH8 connectors, standard IDE non-RAID config, Win XP SP2 (patched to the lastest)

Problem (which is repeatable) : whenever I right-click and disable the Marvell Yukon onboard NIC in Network Properties, the whole system bogs down like a 10 Mhz 8086. The event log shows multiple "disk" and "atapi" errors e.g. "The device, \Device\Ide\IdePort2, did not respond within the timeout period.", "An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\D during a paging operation.
". To get it all back to normal again, I have to re-enable back the Marvell Yukon. It had also brought down the HDD DMA mode to PIO .... but I solved that from repeating through a workaround.

Anyone out there with similar problem on their S3/DS3 board? ... been reading about the Marvell Yukon issues which doesn't seem to be board related. I'm just about ready to ditch the onboard NIC and buy myself a PCI NIC card. The last time it happened, it corrupted the MFT because I did a hard reset too many times trying to narrow the cause.

 

[Stormcloud]

Originally posted by: Metaluna
I've been having a real nightmare trying to get my 965P-S3 (i.e. not DS3) to recognize all my SATA/IDE drives reliably. I have 3 SATA hard drives and 2 PATA DVD writers in the system. The symptoms vary all over the place so it's really hard to narrow down the cause.

Seen that sort of thing happening on my S3 with WD2500KS drives in IDE configuration. Your case seems a little extreme though. I'm still looking for a good answer for this "phenomenon". Might or might not help, have you isolated and removed the 2 PATA drives and then monitor the stability?

I'm on F5 BIOS, XP SP2, I set the HDD autodetect to manual for both drives ... stable if you know how to avoid tripping it. Check out my other post on the Marvell NIC.

 

[Diogenes2]

Originally posted by: Stormcloud
Hi ... I've got a wierd problem with an P965-S3 (F5 BIOS), 2 SATA connected on orange Intel ICH8 connectors, standard IDE non-RAID config, Win XP SP2 (patched to the lastest)

Problem (which is repeatable) : whenever I right-click and disable the Marvell Yukon onboard NIC in Network Properties, the whole system bogs down like a 10 Mhz 8086. The event log shows multiple "disk" and "atapi" errors e.g.....................

Just curious..

Why do you want to ' disable ' the NIC ?

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: tastyratz
<<snip>>
ocz platinum 2x1gb 800mhz ram w 2.0v and 4-4-4-15 factory.
e6400 cpu @1.4v
rev 2 ds3 mobo @f7 bios
thermaltake heatpipe silent northbridge cooler
ocz powerstream 700w
xfx 6600gt pci-x card
36gb raptor
sound blaster live 5.1 converted to an audigy
corsair nautilus watercooling system and koolance hard drive waterblock for the raptor

relaxing the timing from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-15 did not gain me a single mhz. Ram was at 2.2v during testing, and runs exactly the same at 2.0v and 4-4-4-12. Upping from 1.4 to 1.4375 didnt give me a single mhz, just heat. anything below 1.4 isnt enough though. Relaxing the fsb and mch from +2 to +1 doesnt make a difference in stability. Seems like ive hit a wall here and fingers are pointing towards the motherboard being the culprit. Otherwhise, I should be able to pump some more voltage, relax some timings, and atleast get a small amount more clock. seems solid as a rock at 412mhz and peaks at about 55-56c after an hour of orthos and the radiator fan set to corsairs "low" setting.

(I might have a low post count at anandtech, but I just realized they had a forum. Im not new to overclocking or watercooling, been at it for years)

I have the same CPU, same RAM (except mine is rated 5-5-5-15 on the label), same board and bios version. I hit a wall at 410Mhz. My system is air cooled with a Scythe MINE in an Antec P180 case. For the longest time I been wondering if it's my RAM or the motherboard. Only time will tell.

BTW, your weakest link in your system is the graphic card. Please tell me you're waiting for the 8800 to come down in price.

 

[tastyratz]

lol that graphics card is blazing to me, I just upgraded to that from a 9800SE agp solution. I can play quake 4 @ 1280 and it varies from 40-60fps, no problem with me. I dont play as much games on my pc as I used to and this card over clocks like a bastard too. managed to get the ram from 1ghz to 1.2ghz with ramsinks which is pretty good for onboard ram. only about 50mhz out of the stock onboard cooler however. cost me 50 bux for the card, eventually I will upgrade but it plays my games I use now from time to time. I do alot of downloading zipping/unzipping, multitasking and working on the web - the graphics card prettymuch came just about last to me.
I think what I might attempt next is dropping the multiplier and just seeing if I can get it going with a higher fsb. Im thinking of toying with f8i or f8j bios too

 

[slimsizedwallet]

Do anyone know if Scythe Ninja rev.B will fit on the DS3 revision 2? Just ordered both from newegg...
thanks!


edit: Just received the DS3 from newegg, it's a rev. 1

 

[Diogenes2]

Originally posted by: slimsizedwallet
Do anyone know if Scythe Ninja rev.B will fit on the DS3 revision 2? Just ordered both from newegg...
thanks!

Let us know ....

 

[redhawk56]

Well, my DS3 is on its way back to Newegg for a replacement. I guess I'll get to see the Version 2 boards fist hand since I saw someone in here say that was what they are shipping.

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: tastyratz
lol that graphics card is blazing to me, I just upgraded to that from a 9800SE agp solution. I can play quake 4 @ 1280 and it varies from 40-60fps, no problem with me. I dont play as much games on my pc as I used to and this card over clocks like a bastard too. managed to get the ram from 1ghz to 1.2ghz with ramsinks which is pretty good for onboard ram. only about 50mhz out of the stock onboard cooler however. cost me 50 bux for the card, eventually I will upgrade but it plays my games I use now from time to time. I do alot of downloading zipping/unzipping, multitasking and working on the web - the graphics card prettymuch came just about last to me.
I think what I might attempt next is dropping the multiplier and just seeing if I can get it going with a higher fsb. Im thinking of toying with f8i or f8j bios too

I guess your graphics card is more than adequate. I am just spoiled by my 7900GTO and I play games like Oblivion. Even then, I'm begging for more performance.

I'm interested in your overclocking results, though, since we have a very similar configuration (sans the gfx card of course). So keep us posted. I'm not adventurous enough to try the beta bios. Still waiting for the F8 bios.

 

[jaded25]

I was wondering if any of these ram choices would be great for the ds3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231087

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85016-58

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85025-6

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220144

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146093

I already have an e6600 so I was wondering would any one these choices really work the best on the ds3 and oc really good?

 

[keeleysam]

Originally posted by: jaded25
I was wondering if any of these ram choices would be great for the ds3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231087

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85016-58

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85025-6

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220144

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146093

I already have an e6600 so I was wondering would any one these choices really work the best on the ds3 and oc really good?

Looks like you're willing to spend $300 or so.

I own these, and they overclock like crazy. My sticks are OPB though.

 

[jaded25]

I've also seen a couple of people recommend these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820150054

they say that they are also good overclockers but I can't find a review anywhere. Those Xtreem sticks how high do you have them right now?

 

[Roguestar]

Go for the buffalo firestix. They're cheap but have Micron D9 in them. Also read this thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1966035&enterthread=y

The Team Xtreem also seem like a good choice, if a little more expensive than the Buffalo.