*** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

[Endlessshampoo]

bios is confusing.. argh.

whats the diffrent dividers in windows ?

i know that 2.0 in bios is 1.1 but 2.5,3.0 and 4.0+ doesn`t ring a bell here. Anyone know what the diffrent names stands for in dividers ?

running good atm at 430 fsb in 1:1 on my e6600 but i want more ... x.x

 

[StopSign]

Originally posted by: Doomguy

Originally posted by: StopSign
I would assume all big name retailers are selling Rev 2 right now.

Where did you get your board from? Newegg is currently OOS.

I'm in Canada and I ordered it from DirectCanada in late December.

Originally posted by: Endlessshampoo
bios is confusing.. argh.

whats the diffrent dividers in windows ?

i know that 2.0 in bios is 1.1 but 2.5,3.0 and 4.0+ doesn`t ring a bell here. Anyone know what the diffrent names stands for in dividers ?

running good atm at 430 fsb in 1:1 on my e6600 but i want more ... x.x

Well...if 2.0 is 1:1 then...

2.5 must be 1:1.25
3.0 must be 1:1.5
4.0 must be 1:2

What the problem is?

 

[Endlessshampoo]

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: Doomguy

Originally posted by: StopSign
I would assume all big name retailers are selling Rev 2 right now.

Where did you get your board from? Newegg is currently OOS.

I'm in Canada and I ordered it from DirectCanada in late December.

Originally posted by: Endlessshampoo
bios is confusing.. argh.

whats the diffrent dividers in windows ?

i know that 2.0 in bios is 1.1 but 2.5,3.0 and 4.0+ doesn`t ring a bell here. Anyone know what the diffrent names stands for in dividers ?

running good atm at 430 fsb in 1:1 on my e6600 but i want more ... x.x

Well...if 2.0 is 1:1 then...

2.5 must be 1:1.25
3.0 must be 1:1.5
4.0 must be 1:2

What the problem is?

a 1:1,25 divider ? wtf

 

[redhawk56]

OK OK.....so I had to poke my head in to answer this one.

Memory settings in the DS3 are (FSB x memory multiplier) = memory speed

For example

266 (FSB) when the multiplier is set at 2 will give you 533mhz memory speed or 1:1
266 (FSB) when the multiplier is set at 2.5 will give you 665 mhz ......... 4:5
266 (FSB) ................................................... 3 .....................798 mhz ......... 2:3
266 (FSB) ....................................................4......................1064 mhz .......... 1:2


I guess gigabyte thought that was less confusing. LOL

 

[StopSign]

Originally posted by: Endlessshampoo

Originally posted by: StopSign
Well...if 2.0 is 1:1 then...

2.5 must be 1:1.25
3.0 must be 1:1.5
4.0 must be 1:2

What the problem is?

a 1:1,25 divider ? wtf

I was using a reference of 1. Since you're having trouble working with non-whole number ratios, multiply 1:1.25 by 4 and see what you come up with.

 

[redhawk56]

Wow...that was rude......especially since nobody has ever heard of a 1:1.25 divider.

 

[audscott]

Originally posted by: Doomguy
Does anyone know which retailers are shipping Revision 2.0 boards?

I got mine in Aug. it's rev 2.

 

[redhawk56]

Originally posted by: audscott

Originally posted by: Doomguy
Does anyone know which retailers are shipping Revision 2.0 boards?

I got mine in Aug. it's rev 2.

Sorry.....this is the age old mistake of what is rev2 of the chipset and what is rev2 of the board. You didn't get a rev 2 of the board in august.

They just started shipping rev 2 of the board in december. New egg is out of stock so when they start back up they should all be rev 2.

 

[Endlessshampoo]

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: Endlessshampoo

Originally posted by: StopSign
Well...if 2.0 is 1:1 then...

2.5 must be 1:1.25
3.0 must be 1:1.5
4.0 must be 1:2

What the problem is?

a 1:1,25 divider ? wtf

I was using a reference of 1. Since you're having trouble working with non-whole number ratios, multiply 1:1.25 by 4 and see what you come up with.

posted it at 3 am so guess how much my brain worked. Anyways used 2.5 with 475 mhz on the ram and 3420 mhz with the divder og 4:5 and 4.3.4.8 on my cellshock pc6400 ram. 182 k in aquamark 03, 32 k in 3dmark03, 18 k in 3dmark 05. 14.985 in superpi and still need to dl 3dmark06.. pretty neat imo

 

[AdamK47]

I booted my system up yesterday morning with the 500MHz memory clock speed. Guess what? The cold boot caused the board to reset itself. I don't understand why and I didn't want to understand why anymore. Being angry and upset at the time I chucked the DS3 out and dropped in an eVGA 680i. Not having cold boot issues it a glorious thing to behold. Currently running at the same CPU clock speed, but with the memory at DDR 1100 at 5-5-5-15 completly stable with 2.0V. So long and thanks for all the fish.

 

[ThePiston]

yeah, I'm thinking about cutting my losses with this mobo and ebaying it. Money is not much of an option so what's the most stable, non-SLI, least buggy mobo out there for the e6600?

 

[Endlessshampoo]

got this wierd problem even though i know when it starts :


at 4:5 with 475 on ram and 380 on fsb with the timing 4.4.4.8 it takes my pci-e down to 1x. If i go back and change it to 4.4.4.10 it goes back to x16... more mhz on pci-e or volt ?

 

[StopSign]

Lock PCI-E to 100 MHz.

 

[Endlessshampoo]

aight thx mate ill try it

edit : worked great running atm 4.3.4.8 with 475 mhz on some 400 mhz ram ^_^ d9 micron chips ftw.

 

[DuncanA]

Originally posted by: yiranhu
First a question: does enabling raid places enough of a burden on the motherboard to impact the stability of an OC? I'm finding that after enabling raid, I need to increase the MCH voltage by 0.1 to maintain a very stable 400 MHz FSB with 6300. Otherwise, I ran into the situation of the monitor refuse to display anything even though the computer beeps once indicating the system has posted.

I increased my MCH voltage to +0.1 and my cold boot issues went away. 3 days in a row I've been able to have my PC off all night and boot into my stable overclock settings.

Funny thing is, these settings are stable for 13+hrs in Orthos but fail under cold boot..

3.2ghz (8x400) @ 1.325v (even 9x400 @ 1.45v is stable w/below settings)
ram @ 800mhz (2x400) 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1v
FSB default
MCH default
DDR +.3v
CPU default

Changing MCH to +.1v cured my cold boot and my overclock settings save. No more booting into black screen of nothing-ness.

Try it yourselves if you have the cold boot issue. It appears that the Northbridge needs a little more juice in BIOS's F7+ when running ram over 700mhz. I digress, my cold boot issues began at 2x350mhz (700mhz) ram.

 

[Endlessshampoo]

gonna check that out. My ram should be abel to run at 1200 mhz cause of the D9 micron but havent gotten any longer than 950 so far, cause it cold boots with anything over 1000.

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: DuncanA

Originally posted by: yiranhu
First a question: does enabling raid places enough of a burden on the motherboard to impact the stability of an OC? I'm finding that after enabling raid, I need to increase the MCH voltage by 0.1 to maintain a very stable 400 MHz FSB with 6300. Otherwise, I ran into the situation of the monitor refuse to display anything even though the computer beeps once indicating the system has posted.

I increased my MCH voltage to +0.1 and my cold boot issues went away. 3 days in a row I've been able to have my PC off all night and boot into my stable overclock settings.

Funny thing is, these settings are stable for 13+hrs in Orthos but fail under cold boot..

3.2ghz (8x400) @ 1.325v (even 9x400 @ 1.45v is stable w/below settings)
ram @ 800mhz (2x400) 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1v
FSB default
MCH default
DDR +.3v
CPU default

Changing MCH to +.1v cured my cold boot and my overclock settings save. No more booting into black screen of nothing-ness.

Try it yourselves if you have the cold boot issue. It appears that the Northbridge needs a little more juice in BIOS's F7+ when running ram over 700mhz. I digress, my cold boot issues began at 2x350mhz (700mhz) ram.

I believe that it's impossible not to have a cold boot issue with these boards. If you don't have one now, you'll have one later.

 

[Endlessshampoo]

tried to run total war : medievil 2 that just died all the time when i tried to start it. With mhc +1 it startet and been stabil for eh 1 hour approx so far. cpu is 1 degree hotter though.

 

[ThePiston]

i think the bottom line is that this board struggles with high ram OCs, F10 is better, but not perfect - anyone following any other mobos? what about the Asus Commander or P5B deluxe?

 

[disk2]

I will be receiving some G. Skill HZ soon, supposedly it is Micron D9 GMH. Does anyone following this thread have that memory or anything GMH on a DS3? What kind of overclock do you get? Any weird timing issues?

I have a lot of questions that probably have already been answered but this board's search function TOTALLY SUCKS. I don't like this board's format but the information can't be beat. I have read the thread.

I am building a new computer right now and so far I have this stuff (or it's on its way):
DS3 rev1
e6600
Scythe Andy Samurai Master (Not as good as the Infinity apparently but the Infinity won't fit into my case)
XFX 7600 GS (I wanted something silent & cheap)
G. Skill HZ 2GB

Does anyone have 4ghz on this board stable?

I can't find any information about the Gigabyte DS3 and TPM (Trusted Platform Module). Does anyone have any information on that?

Has anyone used this board with Windows Vista, and what problems have you encountered? Do you have to use special drivers or do the drivers that Gigabyte includes on CD work fine?

Is there a BIOS guide on the internet, in HTML or something, that tells what BIOS functions to modify when overclocking? (I've read about what to do generally -- 100mhz pci, set ram timings manually, etc.)

What about these dividers? 2:3 4:5 1:1, which is best? Does it really matter or is the DS3 just better with 1:1. Why use a different divider and have just your memory faster?

Why follow conventional wisdom and disable virtualization? That is something I could really use. Has anyone left it enabled?

What utilities should I have available?
So far I have:

Memset v3.1
ad2d1916baff5ca3a5df6fef3d363bab *MemSet.zip
(What's mchbar and how important is it?)

Orthos Beta - April '06
7729676c448ed1c1fd640d43e841f371 *orthos_exe_20060420.cab

Intel TAT (Thermal Analysis Tool) - I can't find an official source for this, why not?
52eeb33087145c19957c5f513e83feb4 *tat.exe
Downloaded from 3 places, md5 the same on all of them

HCI Design's Memtest (supposedly more rigorous than normal memtest)
557dd49bfda0ebd2111792b268eb3e27 *HCI Design's MemTest.zip

CPU-Z v1.38
92b1ee23768802d252c6609cd9ca7259 *cpu-z-138.zip



There is a crazy guide here for lowering CPU temp. I'm thinking of following it, but I don't want to void my CPU warranty -- which is exactly what will happen if I lap the CPU. I think I've mentioned this before. Any more advice? Also what about curing and burning in?

Thanks

 

[Undersea]

redhawk56,

Why don't you try the Epox board:
EPoX EP-5P965+GLI LGA 775 Intel P965

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123021

BTW they don't use the jmicron controller.

or get one of the 975 boards? 680i is just too expensive IMO.

EDIT: Skip the epox looks like epox is beta testing this product with end users. That stinks!

 

[Tom33]

How about the DS4 version ?

It's been listed on the Gigabyte site for a while.
But I can't find a retailer that carries it.
Or much in the way of reviews.

 

[Undersea]

DS4 is the rest of the world I think. DS6 is the other board available. A member on pcper runs his ds6 at 500fsb.

 

[redhawk56]

Originally posted by: Undersea
redhawk56,

Why don't you try the Epox board:
EPoX EP-5P965+GLI LGA 775 Intel P965

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123021

BTW they don't use the jmicron controller.

or get one of the 975 boards? 680i is just too expensive IMO.

EDIT: Skip the epox looks like epox is beta testing this product with end users. That stinks!

Quite honestly....... I won't ever buy another Intel chipset motherboard. They have just done too many stupid things over the last 3 years and I'm tired of being the beta tester for them.

The thing that really frosts me is that hardware review sites keep letting them get away with it and endorsing all their crap. Someone asked the question not long ago why all these problems were never mentioned in any of the anandtech reviews. I didn't notice anyone answering that, even though they do read this.

 

[yiranhu]

Originally posted by: Undersea
redhawk56,

Why don't you try the Epox board:
EPoX EP-5P965+GLI LGA 775 Intel P965

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123021

BTW they don't use the jmicron controller.

or get one of the 975 boards? 680i is just too expensive IMO.

EDIT: Skip the epox looks like epox is beta testing this product with end users. That stinks!

Wasn't there an article here on anandtech that says this board is not very good at OC... i.e. max FSB was like 350 even though they have option of going up to 600?