*** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

[StopSign]

Originally posted by: TRD3SGTE
Well, from what I've read, people said that the performance on Intel chipset is better than the Jmicron chipset.

If I were you, I'd plug the SATA hdd to the orange (Intel), then after you install your OS of choice, install HD Tach and HDD Tune to see the performance number. Then shutdown the PC, hook it up to the purple. boot up, and run those two progiez again and see which one is faster. That's what I did to my DS3 =)

I have some screen capture :

this one is my 2x74GB Raptor Raid 0 : link

this one is my 150GB Raptor : Link

this one is my 1x74GB Raptor on Intel Chipset :
Link

this one is my 1x74GB Raptor on Jmicron chipset: link

Hmmm...interesting...

People have been saying the JMicron ports give better performance. I'll test this on my system too when I get home.

 

[imported_focus]

I got a rev 2 DS3 last week from Newegg for $145, today they are $134. Clearance time for the rev 2's?

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: focus
I got a rev 2 DS3 last week from Newegg for $145, today they are $134. Clearance time for the rev 2's?

Yep, the Rev3.3's should be out very soon.

 

[TRD3SGTE]

So just to confirm (and avoid meltdown)
CPU multiplier is set to 7
CPU host frequency is set to 428
I make that 2996mhz

However both windows and cpu-z report 3.8ghz, as if the multiplier is set to 9.

Link

Which is right?

your CPU-Z doesnt show FSB number nor Multiplier number nor bus speed. I'd say that is bad. Somehow the mobo isn't communicating with the program.

Use this program and see if it can detect the settings on your mobo Crystal CPUID

I'd trust CPU-Z more than Vista's System Info =D

 

[buzzuk67]

Ok cheers. I dont think cpu-z likes vista, it throws up a driver error as it loads.
Strange that vista itself (to the right of the cpu-z screen) also quotes 3.8ghz though.
Due to constant crashes whilst playing FearXP and Total War Medieval 2 (looping sound and frozen screen, hard reset needed) i've ditched vista and am going back to xp64 for a bit until the driver support is a bit more reliable. The crashes happen at stock settings too BTW so its probably not the result of overheating. Thanks for the tip on Crystal CPUID, if cpu-z doesn't work on xp64 either i'll give it a try.

 

[Endlessshampoo]

some settings are reported wrong bu windows and core temp while they show the correct in cpu-z and everest and some settings does it wise versa. Just some bug.

 

[buzzuk67]

Originally posted by: Endlessshampoo
some settings are reported wrong bu windows and core temp while they show the correct in cpu-z and everest and some settings does it wise versa. Just some bug.

Yeah it was a vista thing. Now xp's back up and running cpu-z is returning sensible results.

 

[StopSign]

I benchmarked the ICH8 SATA ports and they do seem to give better overall performance than the JMicron. Not sure why people were suggesting that the JMicron ports are faster.

 

[buzzuk67]

As far as safe CPU temperatures go, what is the maximum you guys would suggest.
Intel spec sheet rates the E6600 at about 60.1 degrees, but the bios has settings that allow warnings at 60, 70, 80 etc degrees.

At 3ghz (7x428) using TAT, mine idled at the upper 40's then under full load went up to about 62 after about a minute, is that bad?

 

[Endlessshampoo]

Originally posted by: buzzuk67
As far as safe CPU temperatures go, what is the maximum you guys would suggest.
Intel spec sheet rates the E6600 at about 60.1 degrees, but the bios has settings that allow warnings at 60, 70, 80 etc degrees.

At 3ghz (7x428) using TAT, mine idled at the upper 40's then under full load went up to about 62 after about a minute, is that bad?

the 62 are in a orthos load ? cause that would make sense then.

If its normal load then u either upped ya volatage way to much or u got a coolings problem. My 3520(440x8 at 1:1 and 1.41 volt currently) runs at 41 idel and 47 load.

 

[StopSign]

62 seems rather high. My E6300 @ 3.2 idles around 34 (TAT) and Orthos around 55(TAT). It's also undervolted a little in the bios.

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: StopSign
I benchmarked the ICH8 SATA ports and they do seem to give better overall performance than the JMicron. Not sure why people were suggesting that the JMicron ports are faster.

No one was saying that the JMicron port was faster (in single drive comparison). The JMicron has Raid capability. A Raid 0 array will benchmark faster than having the same 2 drives attached to a non-Raid Intel ICH8 port. That's the choice you make, when choosing the less expensive ICH8 boards, compared with the ICH8R boards. If you aren't wanting to use the Raid 0 feature at all, then yes, the orange Intel ports will be faster.

 

[Ricochet]

Last night I had one of the worst case of the "cold boot" issue ever. I had this board for about 4 months now and it was never this bad before. An occasional cold boot here and there didn't bother me so much. I would just go in the bios and enable my overclock again, resume, and everything was dandy again. I ran F6 the longest. Running F10 as soon as it was posted on here. All indications seem to indicate that F10 was good. It fixed my X-Fi issue and maintained my F6 overclock which none of the other bios (F7-F9) were able to do.

I had to reset my machine about 6 times (on some of those I had to turn the PSU off and on) and adjust the bios setting to gain my original overclock. As of now I would not recommend this board to any overclock enthuist at all. Sure you can get a really nice overclock and test it stable all night, but down the road you'll never know when it decides to "cold boot" on you and revert to stock.

 

[slothman]

well that's why i usually just use windows based programs for oc. Programs like clockgen & memset and set them to oc on boot. Never had a problem using those.

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: ricochet
Last night I had one of the worst case of the "cold boot" issue ever. I had this board for about 4 months now and it was never this bad before. An occasional cold boot here and there didn't bother me so much. I would just go in the bios and enable my overclock again, resume, and everything was dandy again. I ran F6 the longest. Running F10 as soon as it was posted on here. All indications seem to indicate that F10 was good. It fixed my X-Fi issue and maintained my F6 overclock which none of the other bios (F7-F9) were able to do.

I had to reset my machine about 6 times (on some of those I had to turn the PSU off and on) and adjust the bios setting to gain my original overclock. As of now I would not recommend this board to any overclock enthuist at all. Sure you can get a really nice overclock and test it stable all night, but down the road you'll never know when it decides to "cold boot" on you and revert to stock.

That's why I say it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. There is obviously some physical problems with the board. Im inclined to believe it's a problem with trace lengths. Getting the proper traces on the boards at the correct lengths is very important for stability. When the board is cool it seems those traces aren't exactly long enough. As the board warms up, those traces expand with the heat and form to their proper length.

 

[StopSign]

Originally posted by: vailr

Originally posted by: StopSign
I benchmarked the ICH8 SATA ports and they do seem to give better overall performance than the JMicron. Not sure why people were suggesting that the JMicron ports are faster.

No one was saying that the JMicron port was faster (in single drive comparison). The JMicron has Raid capability. A Raid 0 array will benchmark faster than having the same 2 drives attached to a non-Raid Intel ICH8 port. That's the choice you make, when choosing the less expensive ICH8 boards, compared with the ICH8R boards. If you aren't wanting to use the Raid 0 feature at all, then yes, the orange Intel ports will be faster.

Actually someone did. I specifically asked which controller performs better and someone said the JMicron does. Then he referred me to someone else's post explaining how to set up SATA drives on the JMicron ports. RAID was never mentioned.

 

[TRD3SGTE]

Last night I flashed my DS3 with F10 BIOS.

I used to run 534FSB at 5-8-8-20, and now I'm running 4-8-8-4-12 at 547FSB, benchable Super Pi 1M:

547FSB, 3.829GHZ, 4-8-8-4-12

Was able to post a screenie at 550FSB, 3.85GHZ, 4-7-7-20 :
550FSB, 3.85Ghz, 4-7-7-20


Validated here
Please note that this is NOT stable, just a screenie. It won't even bench Super Pi 1M

My Patriot can run 5-8-8-820 at DDR 1200, but I'll try some 4CL this weekend.
DDR2 1200, 5-5-5-15


What I did in BIOS was : 500FSB, CL4 Timing, 2.4vDimm, 1.5v CPU.
Then it will boot into windows, and I'll OC with EasyTune.

I can not boot into windows above 515FSB. It will cold boot in loop.
That is why I boot up at 500FSB, get into XP and use Easy Tune to get 547FSB.

I know there's a cold boot issue above 500ish FSB, but if I can get around the problem by booting up at slower speed and OC in Windows, I don't see why not ^__^


I've very satisfied with my DS3 and F10. My last Super Pi 32M was at 525FSB. I'm gonna try to bench at higher speed this weekend

Nice mobo ^__^

 

[ThePiston]

hey is this good ram or good price? http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85025-5

 

[TRD3SGTE]

I'd say, $200 for 2x1GB is great deal.

Read reviews here : Linky

I'm sure that memory is overclockable.
Please report us on how fast you can overclock it ^__^

 

[ThePiston]

Looks like it's the same stuff found here at newegg for same price even though it's a different pic http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145590

 

[TRD3SGTE]

ThePiston : are you considering getting yourself new memory sticks?
I'm curious on how fast your OCZ will run...have you ever try to OC it? Maybe using 2:3 divider

 

[ThePiston]

i'm using 2.5X right now - this ram gets really hot and IMO doesn't OC very well since I don't think it has much head room and it's not D9. however, there is a guy in this thread that is getting good OCs with his Platinum. what is 2:3... 3X? this mobo seems to like great ram - only good ram goes only so far but great ram will get you 200+ more Mhz and it seems to be the D9 stuff.

 

[anibalin]

hi guys I just put the f10 bios. I have two questions.
a) what is HPET mode? it let you choose 32bit or 64bit (its OS related i believe)..
b) I have found that new in F10 is SATA AHCI mode: Disabled/ACHI. If i set it to ACHI i get a bsod right away in windows. I really would like to have this feature for which it would let me hot plug sata drives. Is this fixable or you have to re-install/repair windows?

thanks in advance for a hint.
Aníbal.

 

[Terrier]

I've got more SATA questions about this board

I've got my system going with two Seagate SATA drives on the purple ports (non-raid) but can't seem to set up ACHI in the Bios -

With the F10 bios, in the Integrated Peripherals section. what should the settings be for:

SATA ACHI mode: disabled or enabled? (current setting is disabled)
SATA Port 0-3 Native Mode: enabled or disabled? (current setting is enabled)
Onboard SATA/IDE Device: enabled or disabled? (current setting is enabled)
Onboard SATA/Ide Ctrl Mode: IDE, RAID or RAID/IDE? (current setting is IDE)

I also have a DVD-R drive and a CD-RW on IDE1 (listed as scsi device in device manager) - these disappear if I enable ACHI mode.

Is there a way to get the SATA drives working on the orange ports (Intel ICH8) with ACHI enabled without reinstalling windows?

 

[vailr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPET
High Precision Event Timer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The High Precision Event Timer (HPET) is a replacement timer for the 8254 Programmable Interval Timer and the Real-time clock's (RTC) periodic interrupt function.

The HPET can produce periodic interrupts at a much higher resolution than the RTC and is often used to synchronize multimedia streams, providing smooth playback and reducing the need to use other timestamp calculations such as an x86 cpu's RDTSC instruction.

[edit] See also

* Programmable Interval Timer (PIT)
* Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (APIC)

External links

* Specification from the Intel corp. http://www.intel.com/hardwaredesign/hpetspec_1.pdf
* High Precision Event Timer Driver for Linux
* Guidelines For Providing Multimedia Timer Support http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/CEC/mm-timer.mspx

AHCI requires a driver. AFAIK, Intel has only provided a working driver when both AHCI and Raid are used together.
Since the DS3 uses the non-raid ICH8 chipset, the AHCI driver won't install.