*** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

[tenax]

added some extra info to my last post to you , buzz just after you posted

 

[buzzuk67]

Thanks again.

 

[dopee123]

Originally posted by: NeighborhoodSniper
Hello All. Long time lurker first time poster.

In my sig are the specs of my system and just about all the performance I can wring out of it. Voltages just don't seem to matter. I can get FSB 349 stable with the voltages below but... That's really hardly worth doing. Is this the infamous FSB wall that does or doesn't exist?

I've tried pushing my voltages as such to no real avail:
CPU 1.42v
DDR2 2.1v (+0.3)
PCI-E +0.1
FSB +0.3
GMCH +0.2
No hardware mods

Any suggestions? Maybe I should be happy with a 58% cpu overclock but I have that creeping terror... Forum envy.

In other news getting the JMicron RAID (and my IDE optical drives at the same time) to work was quite a killjoy. I ended up rolling my own XP install disk with nLite, giving it the XP jmicron driver (the 1.17.* from the support website, not the cd) and all the textmode drivers for all the various jmicron models. It simply wouldn't accept my F6 -> floppy and I'm sure that the floppy drive and disks work flawlessly. It may be because it's using the Jmicron controller for IDE as well and trips over it's own self thinking it already has what it needs but doesn't when windows boots for the first time? Unsure... but that took an evening. I highly reccommend feeding nLite every driver you need. That way you won't be without them once windows is installed and there are a dozen exclamaation points in Device Manager and you have no way to update drivers with IDE cdroms, network, and usb offline. I just wasn't up for zip floppies or ppp over serial to beam those in.

This thread has really helped me. Thank you all.

Try lowering the multiplier for your CPU and run it set FSB to 400 in bios and 2.ox for memory multiplier.

The P965 chipset has a FSB hole at 350-400 FSB. So try 400 FSB with 8 multiplier, if that dfoesnt work try 402 or 403. The DS3 really shouldn't have any problems running at 400 FSB, unless your cooling is inadequate (I have a zalman passive northbridge cooler)

 

[dopee123]

Originally posted by: JJordan

Originally posted by: NeighborhoodSniper

Originally posted by: JJordan
Also, here is a link to some information on heat that I cannot say I understand but am pretty sure tells me 75 degrees C is way too hot......Core 2 Duo Temp

I am completely unable to overclock my system. When I increase the BUS speed and try to boot I get a blank screen - no memory beep (or other beep) at all and nothing happens. When I save BIOS and exit screen goes blank and that is it. Have to remove my video card and take out battery. I am really doing something wrong.

75deg C is way too hot. Thermal throttling should be kicking in at that point which is what you don't want.

I'd try the following things if you haven't already:

0. Set the Memory speed from Auto to "2". On Auto it picks some insane divider (only when you manually set the FSB speed) that just won't work. That way your ram will be running in spec.
1. Set PCI-E bus frequency to 100 (default PCI-E speed) instead of Auto
2. Disable USB legacy support and use a ps/2 mouse and keyboard for testing.
3. leave ram and system voltages at auto.

That worked. Did not have to disable legacy. I have the BUS up to 333, memory set to run at 798 with 800 memory in it). I set the PCI Express to 100. Now she boots - so is that setting (100 for the PCI Express slot) what it should be or am I underclocking that ? That seems to have been the hitch?

Temps are still not good. Idle is 37-39, but now at 3 GHz, with TAT under full load it runs 66-67. Tried it at 300 BUS and 2.7 GHz and it is at 65-67 degrees there as well under full load. I turned the smart fan off so CPU fan is running full blast. Also have 120 MM case fan right behind cooler sucking air out.

No voltage upped at all by the way - so now what - that is too hot to run it I assume (even though I doubt it really runs at full load very often does it?)

Your next step would be to lap the processor and heatsink. You can do a google search.Welcome to the world of overclocking

 

[Zardnok]

Originally posted by: tenax

Originally posted by: carey8
Ive got the DS3P Rev 3.3. Whats the difference?
The highest BIOS for my baord is the F4 which i have.

dual pci-e for ati crossfire support looks to be it..and i believe...1333 fsb support..gigabyte have issued 3.3 versions across about 4 of the intel lines now.

edit..the press info indicates that the 2 differences between prior are the inclusion of quad core support and the 1333 support in the 3.3 revisions versus prior.

The 3.3 version also has more caps around the CPU area to give the board more stability for the 1333 support.

 

[rvr2k3]

I am able to use Easy Tune to get my E6600 to OC to 3 Ghz (334 x 9), but when I muck around in the BIOS to set those values, I get no video image when I boot.

I am using the 2GB firestix.

I set those to run at 2.1 volts, which is what EasyTune uses. How do I adjust the PCI speed in the BIOS? It is running at 33 with Easy Tune.

I am running with the stock Intel fan, the mobo is outside of the case and I am using a PCI-E Radeon x800.

This is my 1st Intel build, sorry if these questions are noobish. Thanks.

 

[imported_rone]

Hi,
I am with F10 Bios and Seagate 7200.10 320GB HDD and IDE DVD on JMicron controller. Driver version is JMB36X_WinDrv_WHQL_R1.17.11 . My settings in Bios are for AHCI mode, but when PC boots there is a messige : "Controller Bus#00, Device#1F, Function#2:04 Ports No device found AHCI Bios not installed.
I can't verify the drives mode in Windows, but this message shows no AHCI.
Do you have experience with AHCI and any solution?

 

[beeblebrox12]

Hi all!

First post. After going through this and other related topics, I cannot find another poster with the exact same problem. It is related to the cold boot issue discussed here, but not exactly the same.
If I run at stock settings - load optimized defaults, for example, it boots successfully 100% of the time.
If I change the memory multiplier to anything other than "Auto", about 30% of the time the motherboard cannot post on the first attempt. I need to turn off and on the power from the back switch, and retry. Usually on the second or third attempt it posts. Note - it does never revert to default (or safe) settings - it runs overclocked (or whatever I've changed the BIOS settings to) - I don't have to go into the BIOS and reenter the overclocking values. Neither do I need to clear CMOS or reset the BIOS in any other way. It's just very annoying to use the back switch and attempt again and again.
I tried pretty much everything suggested here, and have narrowed down the cause to the memory multiplier, because it is the only parameter that always seems to cause the problem. Even if I set it to 2.0, which effectively underclocks the memory big time at stock FSB setting, I still get the problem - overclocked CPU or not. Tried raising the memory voltage - didn't help.
The machine is very stable at any overclocked or underclocked speed I've tried to run it at, up to 3.3Ghz. I have passively cooled 7950 GT card and Enermax 480W power supply, CPU is with stock cooler. The only fans are at the CPU and power unit, but I've never had heat issues - actually the boot problem seems to occur only after long inactivity, when the system is much cooler than usual.
Any ideas how to "trick" the motherboard to always boot reliably?
BIOS is F10.

 

[imported_rone]

Hi man,
Try to put some extra voltage on memory in Bios. There is some kind of secret weapon for this mem related cold bots : FSB over voltage (+ 0.1V will do).

 

[Endlessshampoo]

got a big problem atm.

Got a Ds3 rev 1.0 with f10 bios.

im using vista 32 bit

my pci-e is set itself to 1x which makes slowdown in evereything. I got a small oc atm at 3.2 ghz(8x400).

my gfx is geforce 8800GTS 640mb

 

[SilverBack]

I got my DS3 from NewEgg Monday it's a 3.3 came with f9 BIOS immediately flashed to F10
I'm running a E6600

What I've done in my BIOS:

These 6 are disabled
- CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
- CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2)
- CPU EIST Function
-No-execute memory protect
-Limit CPUID Max to 3
-Virtualization Technology

Other settings
- Set Multiplier to 8
- Set vcore to 1.375
- Set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled
- Set CPU Host Frequency (MHz) to 400
- Set PCI Express Frequency(MHz) to 100
- Set System Memory Multiplier to 2.00
- Set DRAM Timing Selectable to Manual
- Set CAS Latency Time to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# Precharge to 4
- Set Precharge dealy (tRAS) to 15
- Set VDimm voltage to +.03

This runs my e6600 at 3.2 GHz

The memory timings are tight ,but in spec with my ram as DDR2 800
My system will be the following:
e6600
OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4,4,4,15
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3
EVga 8800 GTX
ThermalTake 680w PSU for system
ThermalTake Power Express 250w dedicated PSU for 8800 GTX
WD 75 GB Raptor HD 2 Samsung 120's as well
SyncMaster 225BW 22" LCD

System runs great.
I can boot into Windows and run a few things at 3.6 but it's not stable.
I believe that the NorthBridge gets to hot. I had ordered a cooler for the NB, but it got back ordered.

 

[Sav]

First time building a comp in 5 years here, I just bought a E6400 / PC6400 4-4-4 RAM / Gigabyte DS3 V3.3.

I am trying to hit 3.2 GHz with my system, but I cant find an overclocking guide and not sure if I really can hold my system build while I read 33 pages of this thread , would it be ok if I just followed the exact steps taken in the post above:

Originally posted by: SilverBack
I got my DS3 from NewEgg Monday it's a 3.3 came with f9 BIOS immediately flashed to F10
I'm running a E6600

What I've done in my BIOS:

These 6 are disabled
- CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
- CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2)
- CPU EIST Function
-No-execute memory protect
-Limit CPUID Max to 3
-Virtualization Technology

Other settings
- Set Multiplier to 8
- Set vcore to 1.375
- Set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled
- Set CPU Host Frequency (MHz) to 400
- Set PCI Express Frequency(MHz) to 100
- Set System Memory Multiplier to 2.00
- Set DRAM Timing Selectable to Manual
- Set CAS Latency Time to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# Precharge to 4
- Set Precharge dealy (tRAS) to 15
- Set VDimm voltage to +.03

This runs my e6600 at 3.2 GHz

The memory timings are tight ,but in spec with my ram as DDR2 800
My system will be the following:
e6600
OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4,4,4,15
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3
EVga 8800 GTX
ThermalTake 680w PSU for system
ThermalTake Power Express 250w dedicated PSU for 8800 GTX
WD 75 GB Raptor HD 2 Samsung 120's as well
SyncMaster 225BW 22" LCD

System runs great.
I can boot into Windows and run a few things at 3.6 but it's not stable.
I believe that the NorthBridge gets to hot. I had ordered a cooler for the NB, but it got back ordered.

 

[SilverBack]

Hi Sav
You would need to match the timings to your ram.
Also you need good cooling for your CPU.
But yeah it should work.

 

[Sav]

Is there a basic overclocking guide for the DS3? I bought an arctic cooler freezer pro 7, hopefully that will be enough. Thanks!

 

[pengo]

Originally posted by: rone
Hi,
I am with F10 Bios and Seagate 7200.10 320GB HDD and IDE DVD on JMicron controller. Driver version is JMB36X_WinDrv_WHQL_R1.17.11 . My settings in Bios are for AHCI mode, but when PC boots there is a messige : "Controller Bus#00, Device#1F, Function#2:04 Ports No device found AHCI Bios not installed.
I can't verify the drives mode in Windows, but this message shows no AHCI.
Do you have experience with AHCI and any solution?

Try removing the jumper on the seagate drive that sets its SATA mode, and see how you go.

 

[SilverBack]

Originally posted by: Sav
Is there a basic overclocking guide for the DS3? I bought an arctic cooler freezer pro 7, hopefully that will be enough. Thanks!

Those settings above is basically the guide.
OC's depend on your hardware and tollerances.
Those top 6 settings have to be turned off to be stable.

 

[rvr2k3]

Apparently my problem was not setting it to [PEG] in the advanced options screen instead of [PCI] for the video card.

Now it reboots with the monitor. I ran your settings, leaving the memory timings on auto, so far so good. I think with the Firestix, I can be aggressive with the timings.

Thanks.

Originally posted by: SilverBack
I got my DS3 from NewEgg Monday it's a 3.3 came with f9 BIOS immediately flashed to F10
I'm running a E6600

What I've done in my BIOS:

These 6 are disabled
- CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
- CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2)
- CPU EIST Function
-No-execute memory protect
-Limit CPUID Max to 3
-Virtualization Technology

Other settings
- Set Multiplier to 8
- Set vcore to 1.375
- Set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled
- Set CPU Host Frequency (MHz) to 400
- Set PCI Express Frequency(MHz) to 100
- Set System Memory Multiplier to 2.00
- Set DRAM Timing Selectable to Manual
- Set CAS Latency Time to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# Precharge to 4
- Set Precharge dealy (tRAS) to 15
- Set VDimm voltage to +.03

This runs my e6600 at 3.2 GHz

The memory timings are tight ,but in spec with my ram as DDR2 800
My system will be the following:
e6600
OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4,4,4,15
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3
EVga 8800 GTX
ThermalTake 680w PSU for system
ThermalTake Power Express 250w dedicated PSU for 8800 GTX
WD 75 GB Raptor HD 2 Samsung 120's as well
SyncMaster 225BW 22" LCD

System runs great.
I can boot into Windows and run a few things at 3.6 but it's not stable.
I believe that the NorthBridge gets to hot. I had ordered a cooler for the NB, but it got back ordered.

 

[amenx]

Why set the multiplier to 8? At 9 your mobo will easily run without upping any of the volatages and your NB will be a lot cooler. And your RAM will also run much easier with the lower FSB without increasing the VDIMM, in fact it may allow you to tighten the timings even further. Not really the most efficient OC with these settings.

Originally posted by: SilverBack
I got my DS3 from NewEgg Monday it's a 3.3 came with f9 BIOS immediately flashed to F10
I'm running a E6600

What I've done in my BIOS:

These 6 are disabled
- CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
- CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2)
- CPU EIST Function
-No-execute memory protect
-Limit CPUID Max to 3
-Virtualization Technology

Other settings
- Set Multiplier to 8
- Set vcore to 1.375
- Set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled
- Set CPU Host Frequency (MHz) to 400
- Set PCI Express Frequency(MHz) to 100
- Set System Memory Multiplier to 2.00
- Set DRAM Timing Selectable to Manual
- Set CAS Latency Time to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay to 4
- Set DRAM RAS# Precharge to 4
- Set Precharge dealy (tRAS) to 15
- Set VDimm voltage to +.03

This runs my e6600 at 3.2 GHz

The memory timings are tight ,but in spec with my ram as DDR2 800
My system will be the following:
e6600
OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4,4,4,15
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3
EVga 8800 GTX
ThermalTake 680w PSU for system
ThermalTake Power Express 250w dedicated PSU for 8800 GTX
WD 75 GB Raptor HD 2 Samsung 120's as well
SyncMaster 225BW 22" LCD

System runs great.
I can boot into Windows and run a few things at 3.6 but it's not stable.
I believe that the NorthBridge gets to hot. I had ordered a cooler for the NB, but it got back ordered.

 

[beeblebrox12]

Originally posted by: rone
Hi man,
Try to put some extra voltage on memory in Bios. There is some kind of secret weapon for this mem related cold bots : FSB over voltage (+ 0.1V will do).

Thanks for the advice, rone. I tried it last night and it booted OK this morning. Let's hope this is a permanent fix.

 

[Bozo Galora]

just curious, downloaded latest CPU-Z (1.39) and am running rev 3.3 @ 8X400 (E6400) or 3.2GHZ for about a month now rock solid all stock volts except RAM.

Is CPU frequency shown supposed to constantly vary a bit? Looks like some kind of spread spectrum thing, but there is no option for that in bios.

 

[brencat]

I can boot into Windows and run a few things at 3.6 but it's not stable.

Have you tried upping the MCH voltage? Granted this won't make your NB any cooler but it most likely needs the volts also.

 

[brencat]

Why set the multiplier to 8? At 9 your mobo will easily run without upping any of the volatages and your NB will be a lot cooler. And your RAM will also run much easier with the lower FSB without increasing the VDIMM, in fact it may allow you to tighten the timings even further. Not really the most efficient OC with these settings.

I had planned to get an E6600 and do exactly what Silverback is trying to do...3.6 ghz @450x8 or even 515x7. But the NB will probably hold me back. So now I'm considering going with the E6420 when it comes out so I can have the 8x multi default + the benefits of the 4mb cache...putting me in reach of my 450 - 500 FSB target.

 

[amenx]

Originally posted by: brencat

Why set the multiplier to 8? At 9 your mobo will easily run without upping any of the volatages and your NB will be a lot cooler. And your RAM will also run much easier with the lower FSB without increasing the VDIMM, in fact it may allow you to tighten the timings even further. Not really the most efficient OC with these settings.

I had planned to get an E6600 and do exactly what Silverback is trying to do...3.6 ghz @450x8 or even 515x7. But the NB will probably hold me back. So now I'm considering going with the E6420 when it comes out so I can have the 8x multi default + the benefits of the 4mb cache...putting me in reach of my 450 - 500 FSB target.

But whats the point? The higher multiplier is more desirable becasue it allows you to achieve your OC at a lesser FSB. A lesser FSB requires less voltage needs (MCH, FSB, VDIMM), and therefore less stress and heat on your mobo and RAM! The objective is to achieve a higher CPU clock speed, not a higher FSB!

P.S. another benefit of a lower FSB is it allows you to tighten your RAM timings further.

 

[brencat]

The objective is to achieve a higher CPU clock speed, not a higher FSB!

400x9, 450x8, 515x7 all equal 3.6 ghz...all the same clock speed. But the advantage of a high FSB is the higher bandwidth. Now I admit you lose some performance as most mobos switch to the looser strap above 400 FSB, but if you can make it to 450 or higher most of that performance is regained, correct? So why not run 450 x 8?

And as far as timings go, most good Ram (i.e. Mu D9s) can do 4-4-4-12 well into the high 400s so you're not really losing out there either.

There is one mobo that I'm watching very closely...the Abit Quad GT. Has a lot of promise if they can get the bugs and bios issues resolved, primarily because it stays on the 1067 strap above 400 FSB unlike the DS3 and P5B Dlx. It's probably a screamer @ 450 x 8...

 

[amenx]

Originally posted by: brencat

The objective is to achieve a higher CPU clock speed, not a higher FSB!

400x9, 450x8, 515x7 all equal 3.6 ghz...all the same clock speed. But the advantage of a high FSB is the higher bandwidth. Now I admit you lose some performance as most mobos switch to the looser strap above 400 FSB, but if you can make it to 450 or higher most of that performance is regained, correct? So why not run 450 x 8?

And as far as timings go, most good Ram (i.e. Mu D9s) can do 4-4-4-12 well into the high 400s so you're not really losing out there either.

Bollocks! Pls excuse me if I sound rude, but you clearly dont understand the fundamentals of OC'ing if you think that 515 x 7 is in ANY WAY better or more desirable than 400 x 9. No higher bandwidth gain either, but rather less bandwidth as you're forced to loosen your RAM timings at the higher FSB. Sorry dude, but you have quite a silly argument here.