Official GTX 590 Review Thread (23 reviews at this time)

Page 7 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Zanovar

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2011
3,446
232
106
Official statement for those who missed it and always will miss it.

“The few press reports on GTX 590 boards dying were caused by overvoltaging to unsafe levels (as high as 1.2V vs. default voltage of 0.91 to 0.96V), and using older drivers that have lower levels of overcurrent protection. Rest assured that GTX 590 operates reliably at default voltages, and our 267.84 launch drivers provide even more additional levels of protection for overclockers. For more information on overclocking and overcurrent protection on GTX 590 please see our knowledge base article here: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2947.”

Also it turns out that these reviewers who killed their cards were WARNED not to use the old AIC drivers that did not have protection in them. They did anyway, and videotaped the second one just for the hell of it. Nice.
WARNED?,hmm interesing,i highly doubt it
 

Dudler

Junior Member
Mar 20, 2009
18
0
66
Official statement for those who missed it and always will miss it.

“Blah blah blah nVidia spin

Also it turns out that these reviewers who killed their cards were WARNED not to use the old AIC drivers that did not have protection in them. They did anyway, and videotaped the second one just for the hell of it. Nice.

Sweclockers used the drivers in the box. nVidia shipped the wrong drivers. Ouch!

TPU used drivers in box too.

"According to NVIDIA this should not happen. In their official reviewer driver (which I used), the NVIDIA Power limit is designed to be active for all applications, not only Furmark." Wizzard-TPU
 
Last edited:

apoppin

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
34,890
1
0
alienbabeltech.com
Official statement for those who missed it and always will miss it.

“The few press reports on GTX 590 boards dying were caused by overvoltaging to unsafe levels (as high as 1.2V vs. default voltage of 0.91 to 0.96V), and using older drivers that have lower levels of overcurrent protection. Rest assured that GTX 590 operates reliably at default voltages, and our 267.84 launch drivers provide even more additional levels of protection for overclockers. For more information on overclocking and overcurrent protection on GTX 590 please see our knowledge base article here: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2947.”

Also it turns out that these reviewers who killed their cards were WARNED not to use the old AIC drivers that did not have protection in them. They did anyway, and videotaped the second one just for the hell of it. Nice.
Your link is not working for me.

i didn't get any warning from Nvidia. Didn't need it; i have more sense than that
:whiste:

i got my card directly from Nvidia, not from a partner - although i also have access to the same drivers that bypass protection. Why would i defeat the protection and then overvolt way past what is sensible (on air)?
 
Last edited:

Zanovar

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2011
3,446
232
106
Just let it go,jeebus(tries to console a crazy Zanovar)

there was comedy there,(pricesless)luvs and hugs u Coughs.jesus fookin christ,i have read your replies you are a moron


Personal attacks and insults are not acceptable.

This is approach is not productive, it is inflammatory and disrespectful.

You are expected to refrain from posting your personal opinions regarding your your fellow forum colleagues when those opinions are derogatory and negative.

Please familiarize yourself with the AnandTech Forum Guidelines:
1) No trolling, flaming or personally attacking members. Deftly attacking ideas and backing up arguments with facts is acceptable and encouraged. Attacking other members personally and purposefully causing trouble with no motive other than to upset the crowd is not allowed.
We want to give all our members as much freedom as possible while maintaining an environment that encourages productive discussion. It is our desire to encourage our members to share their knowledge and experiences in order to benefit the rest of the community, while also providing a place for people to come and just hang out.

We also intend to encourage respect and responsibility among members in order to maintain order and civility. Our social forums will have a relaxed atmosphere, but other forums will be expected to remain on-topic and posts should be helpful, relevant and professional.

We ask for respect and common decency towards your fellow forum members.
Idontcare
Super Moderator
 
Last edited by a moderator:

cusideabelincoln

Diamond Member
Aug 3, 2008
3,269
12
81
Now I agree with most of the stuff people are saying in this thread about 6990>590 and all that. I was going to step up with EVGA if I could and try a 590 but not after reading this. But people saying the 570 blows up from a little added voltage or overclocking like the 590 does is FUD. The 570 has been out for 4 months and almost all of the 10 or so that fried had OCP disabled and ran Furmark. Some 570's posted in that thread were proven false deaths also. Faulty cards happen only difference is the 570 has a special FUD thread where it gets announced and blown out of proportion when someone gets a faulty card, abuses their card to death, posts a false death, or disables safety features. There is a 50+ page post on OCN with heavily overclocked and overvolted 570's doing just fine.

Don't be passive agressive. The same thing happening to some 590s is happening to some 570s: Overvolt and the VRMs go boom. Considering how much more power the full GF110 core (two cores) needs, this should not be too much of a surprise.
 

apoppin

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
34,890
1
0
alienbabeltech.com
So do the retail GTX590 come with a different driver version?
That's what the link says.
our 267.84 launch drivers provide even more additional levels of protection for overclockers
i used 267.71 .. i got no warning from Nvidia although i knew that there is an earlier set that also worked,

When i started overclocking mine, i noticed the temps start to spike around 690MHz and the vRAM began to heat up. i left my voltage and fan profile at stock also.
 

GaiaHunter

Diamond Member
Jul 13, 2008
3,634
181
106
That's what the link says.
i used 267.71 .. i got no warning from Nvidia although i knew that there is an earlier set that also worked,

When i started overclocking mine, i noticed the temps start to spike around 690MHz and the vRAM began to heat up. i left my voltage and fan profile at stock also.

I find a bit worrying that this kind of protection is software bound.

Is this common practice by both companies?
 

Keysplayr

Elite Member
Jan 16, 2003
21,209
50
91
I find a bit worrying that this kind of protection is software bound.

Is this common practice by both companies?

Software does mean that it is changeable or programmable. After all, what is hardware without the software counterpart?
 

insurgent

Member
Dec 4, 2006
133
0
0
I was wondering about powertune too; if a driver update can somehow mess it up, or if the protection is in the bios itself or whatever.
 

TerabyteX

Banned
Mar 14, 2011
92
1
0
This is the second time that drivers kill their cards, hopefully it won't happen with the latest driver updates.
 

GaiaHunter

Diamond Member
Jul 13, 2008
3,634
181
106
Software does mean that it is changeable or programmable. After all, what is hardware without the software counterpart?

Why would someone want to change a setting that prevents the hardware to suffer physical damage?
 

Keysplayr

Elite Member
Jan 16, 2003
21,209
50
91
Why would someone want to change a setting that prevents the hardware to suffer physical damage?

Gaia, just for a moment, pretend we like each other. So that we don't have to have a diametrically opposed conversation. -Thanks.

Software allows flexibility. Say someone wanted to try a certain level of overvolting but still wanted a fail safe protection, albeit a higher bar to be set?
If the protection were hardware based only or a mechanical only solution, this couldn't be done.
There, now you have one reason why.
 

Outrage

Senior member
Oct 9, 1999
217
1
0
I would say the people putting 1.2v through the card killed it, not the drivers.

sweclockers card was @ 1,025 V when it exploded, and with asus putting a big sticker with there voltage tweak logo on the card.....

Must be a great adventure installing nv drivers.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |