Official HD7770/7750 Reviews Thread

[StrangerGuy]

This kind of reminds me of the 5770 launch, that card went on to be the best selling DX11 card I believe. Not saying that will happen here, but the 5770 was slower than the card it was replacing (at the price point).

Back then it has DX11, much lower power usage than 4870, most buyers have slower cards and a most importantly an utter lack of compeition from NV. Completely different circumstances.

 

[Tuna-Fish]

Note that given the low power use (so low VRM need), cheap ram, and tiny, tiny die, this card should be really cheap to make, and should fit really cheap systems.

I agree with the sentiment here -- the prices will only stay this high for a short time. I also fully expect that AMD will make a boatload of these that they are going to sell to pre-built "gaming rigs".

This kind of reminds me of the 5770 launch, that card went on to be the best selling DX11 card I believe.

I believe Juniper was the best selling chip since G92. Largely (but not exclusively) because of good oem sales. As I see it, Cape Verde has all the advantages Juniper had, and then some.

As for me, I'm waiting for 78xx or Kepler.

 

[AnandThenMan]

I believe Juniper was the best selling chip since G92.

I can't prove this, but I believe the Juniper was artificially priced high (especially at first) for the retail market so OEMs would get the bulk of them. Could be the same stunt here.

 

[WMD]

Its not just the price that is wrong. This should be a successor to the 5770/ 5750. The fact that it is sometimes slower than even the 5830 is hard to swallow.

 

[HurleyBird]

This kind of reminds me of the 5770 launch, that card went on to be the best selling DX11 card I believe. Not saying that will happen here, but the 5770 was slower than the card it was replacing (at the price point).

Interesting you bring that up, because the anandtech 7770 review shows the 5770 doing very well against the 4870. Sometimes it takes awhile for drivers to catch up.

 

[blanketyblank]

skyrim seems very interesting at 1920 x 1200.

 

[Vesku]

IMO, should have been 768 SP for 7770, which would probably put it at or a bit above 6870 performance. The 7750 would then be what the real 7770 is.

Perhaps in countries where electricity is > $0.25 per KWH these will be attractive despite the lack of performance/$ improvement over the 6800 series.

 

[AtenRa]

Lol. What a turd.

At least the 7870 is looking half decent.

Im expecting the same results with 7870 vs 6970

 

[Ieat]

IMO, should have been 768 SP for 7770, which would probably put it at or a bit above 6870 performance. The 7750 would then be what the real 7770 is.

Perhaps in countries where electricity is > $0.25 per KWH these will be attractive despite the lack of performance/$ improvement over the 6800 series.

Other countries? Try California where its .30 cents and .50 cents during peak summer hours. But even at those rates 13 watts savings in idle and 37 watts under load don't make these cards worth it.

 

[mosox]

One should never base his review conclusions on the pricing (like AT and others), tomorrow AMD could shave some $$ from the price and what's left from your conclusions?

Take a look at AT's final page (named "Final Words"), any new pricing would make useless half of it. Same for the conclusions on the older reviews. The conclusions should be strictly technical (this is not PriceGrabber, it's a HW site) and a separate page for the current pricing with a big disclaimer stating that the pricing changes all the time.

 

[3DVagabond]

Im expecting the same results with 7870 vs 6970

If it has the same shader count as the 6970, as rumored, then it'll be faster. Unless they down clock the crap out of it.

 

[AtenRa]

If it has the same shader count as the 6970, as rumored, then it'll be faster. Unless they down clock the crap out of it.

I'm not expecting it to have the same shader count as Cayman.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Disappointing. No progress in price/perf. Lower wattage is only mildly interesting as the absolute difference is quite low.

 

[dma0991]

The compute performance has increased by a large margin. Frankly I'm more interested in that aspect rather than its less than surprising gaming performance. I'll like to see Kepler's compute performance and if the price is right for its performance, I'd grab either one of their lower end GPUs.

 

[Lonyo]

It's like the GTX550Ti all over again, only this time AMD don't have an excuse because it's a smaller process.

Unless TSMC are having real problems still, it wouldn't be too surprising to see it lose some $$$ fairly quickly, at least on Newegg and the like.

 

[GaiaHunter]

At currents price the 7770 isn't worth it.

More interesting is the fact that the die size is between turks and juniper, with basically specs between them, except it is on a smaller node (read, despite the node shrink there was almost no shrink).

In fact compare it to the 40 nm 4770 @die size of 137 nm.

 

[WMD]

Underwhelming but expected. AMD's direct customers are the AIB partners and they must agree to the MRSP. Setting the price too low and undercutting the previous generation cards means they are shooting themselves in the foot. There are still loads of 6000 series cards to clear off and people buying them up like crazy at current prices because of BF3. After the craze die down and old stocks exhausted they are gonna need to make prices attractive again to move the new cards. Just be patient.

 

[MrK6]

It's like the GTX550Ti all over again, only this time AMD don't have an excuse because it's a smaller process.

Unless TSMC are having real problems still, it wouldn't be too surprising to see it lose some $$$ fairly quickly, at least on Newegg and the like.

Well I think that's the trouble right there. Assuming AMD's marketing team isn't totally nuts (which is a significant assumption, unfortunately), I think we're looking at the consequences of extremely poor output by TSMC.

In general, I'm surprised at the price difference between the two cards. This obviously puts the 7750 in a better light, but since its direct competition is the GTX 550 Ti, that's not saying much.

 

[StinkyPinky]

I really hope the 7870 is a good card. The 7770 is a total shitheap. :thumbsdown:

 

[boxleitnerb]

7870 will probably be around 6950-6970 performance for $300. Happy days.

 

[Crap Daddy]

7870 will probably be around 6950-6970 performance for $300. Happy days.

If they keep this trend it'll be around 6950 for 300$. From the consumer point of view the 7000 series is worthless.

 

[Skurge]

If they keep this trend it'll be around 6950 for 300$. From the consumer point of view the 7000 series is worthless.

You mean from a gamers point of view.

In any case, it's an excellent card, the compute performance is really impressive cause it's beating a previous gen midrange fermi card, but the price is insane. $185 for the XFX card? They are smoking some strong stuff over there at AMD.

 

[Olikan]

Just something I've been playing with, but Nvidia has long been viewed by many as the more AIB provider/retailer friendly. Could this be AMD's bid to fight that? These cards would be awesome at 25% lower prices. could the prices be jacked up to clear the channels of 5XXX series cards, and to prevent day 1 shortages, then lowered in a month or so once the crunch eases? A 7770 at $120 would be a nice card indeed.

LOL, Nvidia is so more friendly to AIB, that XFX stopped seling theyr cards.
yet, we see custom coolers at launch with amd cards

these 77XX are a bit..."meh!"

the 7750 have it's niche...ok :thumbsup:

unfortunatly 7770 seems be good at bitcoin, and that's it D:

 

[Borealis7]

yes, very disappointing, but remember that AMD's aggressive pricing is what brought them to where they are today. they need mo' money in the bank in order to survive.
perhaps there is a secret plan to cut prices when Kepler parts are released in order to undercut nVidia which is expected to continue producing big expensive chips.

 

[WMD]

yes, very disappointing, but remember that AMD's aggressive pricing is what brought them to where they are today. they need mo' money in the bank in order to survive.
perhaps there is a secret plan to cut prices when Kepler parts are released in order to undercut nVidia which is expected to continue producing big expensive chips.

Every company needs to make money but you don't make money by producing crappy products and over charging for it. Take Apple for example their stuff are not cheap but people hardly complains because they are good. AMD has a lot to learn.