"**But combine it with a Bulldozer and get a huge performance boost!" I can hear the marketing gremlins already
**in dirt 3 only
**in dirt 3 only
The 68xx are ALL eol cards. Their prices reflect that. When they were new they had more performance but also higher prices than even the 7770. Your comparing eol prices to brand new prices. Even without performance or whatever involved, brand new stuff is always more expensive than the same item will be a year from now. A year from now the 7770 will be cheaper just like the 68xx cards got cheaper. Same thing that happened when the 5770 was released and the 4870 offering more performance for similar or better prices. Nothing new here...
7700 series cards up on Newegg, seems like they realize the SP count is a bit blah on the marketing side as the SP count is missing on the details tab (all the other radeons list SP counts afaik). Bottom line though is that AMD shaved some size off the ~$150 parts die size, focusing on profit over offering significant performance improvement over the 6850 which had a launch MSRP just $20 more than this 7770 MSRP.
Edit: Boo, hiss at AMD on the 7770 choices. 7750 seems a well thought out HTPC card. 7770 looks like an OEM card being dangled in the retail waters to try to catch some sucker fish, ahem, I mean customers.
"**But combine it with a Bulldozer and get a huge performance boost!" I can hear the marketing gremlins already
**in dirt 3 only
The 6850 launched at $180, and the 7770 launched at $160. So yes, the 6850 was 12.5% more expensive than the 7770 at launch, but was also 5% faster. In the 16 months since Barts launched, including moving to a new full node and a new arch, there hasn't been more than a 10% increase in perf/$ comparing launch price to launch price. At least when the 6870 launched it was faster than the 5850 and its launch MSRP was also $20 less than the launch MSRP of the 5850. That was even on the same node. The 7770 is a bad value comparing launch to launch, not even taking into account that you can buy an HD6870 today for $155 ($145AR) that thoroughly outperforms the 7770.
Thinks for the suggestion. I just checked it out and see what you mean. I'll need to check other sites to see if they get different results, but if it holds true then the 6870 is still on the table with the 7850, but the 7770 is definitely out of consideration.Techreport tested Skyrim with high-res textures and it looks to me the 6850 and thus 6870 handles it better than the 7770. Very playable 1080p performance out of the 6850 in their Skyrim test.
But as for future games, these GCN cards are more capable in terms of tessellation than the 6800 series.
2 years after the 5770 we should be getting the 7770's performance for $100 - $125, and these cards should be labeled 7650 and 7670.
AMD basically rolled all their low end in these two cards. 76X0 wouldn't make sense, because there wouldn't be no 77X0.
If you would change every post mentioning the 7770 to 5770 and every 6850 to 4870, I would swear I'd gone back in time. The price will go down, performance will go up with time, just like with the 5770. Skip 2-3 years ahead, and everyone will be dissapointed, that the 10770(770?) failed to meet the great pref/$ of the 7770
But for now, the 7770 is priced horribly, and the 7750 is priced slighly too high. Pass on both for some 6 months or so.
One other interesting point.... 5770 bandwidth was higher than 7770 bandwidth.
Shouldn't this at least have used memory at 4.8 GHz to match the 5770?
I suppose it will make for easy overclocks, but it seems like stock bandwidth should at least equal 5770 bandwidth.
I called both AMD and NV headquarters this morning and asked them to send me the 7970 and 580 respectively for free. Surprisingly, both companies refused. I am now furious and will refuse to buy from either company now or in the future.
I blame them for my budget/finances not allowing for me to spend anything on a GPU, but still feel entitled to the latest and greatest graphics performance.
In short, capitalism sucks.
DJ
I bought 4 7970s today because I earn lots of money and demand only the best performance. I don't care if each generation of graphics cards becomes more expensive, obviously those that bought previous enthusiast level products from the last generation have not increased their income necessary to keep up with the new enthusiast line. Peasants. How can you call yourself a PC gamer enthusiast if you don't buy the latest graphics cards with the largest model number irrespective of actual performance?
If you can't justify the price it must be because you are poor or lazy. Or both. There cannot possibly be any other reason.
*Feelings of extreme arrogance and smugness*
The 68xx are ALL eol cards. Their prices reflect that. When they were new they had more performance but also higher prices than even the 7770. Your comparing eol prices to brand new prices. Even without performance or whatever involved, brand new stuff is always more expensive than the same item will be a year from now. A year from now the 7770 will be cheaper just like the 68xx cards got cheaper. Same thing that happened when the 5770 was released and the 4870 offering more performance for similar or better prices. Nothing new here...
AMD basically rolled all their low end in these two cards. 76X0 wouldn't make sense, because there wouldn't be no 77X0.
If you would change every post mentioning the 7770 to 5770 and every 6850 to 4870, I would swear I'd gone back in time. The price will go down, performance will go up with time, just like with the 5770. Skip 2-3 years ahead, and everyone will be dissapointed, that the 10770(770?) failed to meet the great pref/$ of the 7770
But for now, the 7770 is priced horribly, and the 7750 is priced slighly too high. Pass on both for some 6 months or so.
At least when the 6870 launched it was faster than the 5850 and its launch MSRP was also $20 less than the launch MSRP of the 5850.
At least the cards are available for MSRP. I don't think an increase over it would have moved much stock.
I know this is post was being sarcastic but you have pretty much nailed it.
Do you whine when you go to a car dealership and the Mercedez-Benz is $70,000? Do you go to the jewelry store and cry about the Rolex watch being $7,000? Do you go to a designer clothes outlet and cry about a suit that costs over $1,000?
Premium products have premium pricing, suck it up.
I know this is post was being sarcastic but you have pretty much nailed it.
Do you whine when you go to a car dealership and the Mercedez-Benz is $70,000? Do you go to the jewelry store and cry about the Rolex watch being $7,000? Do you go to a designer clothes outlet and cry about a suit that costs over $1,000?
Premium products have premium pricing, suck it up.