A new generation Mercedes model will not suddenly jump up 50%, that absolutely does not happen. You will not see a new generation E320 suddenly be 50% more expensive than it's previous version. Your analogy is beyond ridiculous not to mention completely wrong and only serves to make a point against your own argument.
Price will go down somewhat but not sure about performance. 5770 has not really surpassed 4870 1GB as many people said it would except games had become alot more demanding of VRAM making it the 4870 512MB perform horrendously in TPUs benchmarks. The 6850 and 6870 has not really surpassed the 5850 and 5870 as people predicted either except in tessellation bound benchmarks where they already performed better from day one.
Your point is? The 4870 isn't powerful enough to make use of more than 512MB of VRAM. It runs out of steam before then.
So which is the better buy?
$100 6770 or
$110 7750?
Your point is? The 4870 isn't powerful enough to make use of more than 512MB of VRAM. It runs out of steam before then. And the 5770 is just as fast while consuming around half the power and running a lot cooler and quieter. The lowest the 4870 was in price was around $125, and the lowest the 5770 has been is $100.
And the 6850 and 6870 were never meant to replace the 5850 and 5870, but the 5830 and 5850. And they're certainly faster than those cards, all while costing less and consuming less power.
Why is it that certain people always like to moan about anything and everything?
the 4870 can run several games at settings that exceed 512mb of vram.Your point is? The 4870 isn't powerful enough to make use of more than 512MB of VRAM. It runs out of steam before then. And the 5770 is just as fast while consuming around half the power and running a lot cooler and quieter. The lowest the 4870 was in price was around $125, and the lowest the 5770 has been is $100.
And the 6850 and 6870 were never meant to replace the 5850 and 5870, but the 5830 and 5850. And they're certainly faster than those cards, all while costing less and consuming less power.
Why is it that certain people always like to moan about anything and everything?
Overpriced. Can't wait for NV's response.
"We're waiting for anything from NVIDIA" - The Tech World"We were expecting more from AMD." -Nvidia
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AT has the GeForce 8800GT in their Bench system, which is a fairly similar card.Would it be a worth while (cheap) upgrade to go from an old GeForce 250 to the HD7750? I am having trouble finding comparable benchmarks.
I am doing ok with the 250 but it takes my microATX PSU to its limit and I like the idea of a potentially better card that uses significantly less power.
Quadcore AMD 2.5ghz | 6gb Ram
"We were expecting more from AMD." -Nvidia
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Haha, I love the little digs AMD and nVidia are taking at each other."We're waiting for anything from NVIDIA" - The Tech World
X-LOL-Kepler: So LateI'm not expecting it to have the same shader count as Cayman.
If they keep this trend it'll be around 6950 for 300$. From the consumer point of view the 7000 series is worthless.
I just find it downright obnoxious, never mind cheeky, to say "we're not impressed" when they don't even have a product on the market. Furthermore, I'd prefer either company to let their products do the talking instead of wasting money and time on crap like that (however little it is).Haha, I love the little digs AMD and nVidia are taking at each other.
If your using Firfox go to www.verdetrol.com and press Ctrl+U.
You will see:
Code:X-LOL-Kepler: So Late
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I just find it downright obnoxious, never mind cheeky, to say "we're not impressed" when they don't even have a product on the market. Furthermore, I'd prefer either company to let their products do the talking instead of wasting money and time on crap like that (however little it is).
If you compare the 5870 to the 5770, it is not at all the same as comparing the 7970 to the 7770. If you're looking for the real "sweet spot" in the 7xxx series, it will likely come from the 7870, despite prices of course.
My comments reflect more on that individual than the company as a whole then. I didn't realize tviceman had misquoted it.From what I understand, some NV staffer said that off the record, but some nimrod tech "journalist" went ahead and relayed the quote anyway, which NV has never confirmed or denied as happening.
Until 28nm gets fixed and there's more production, it will stay like that. I've said this previously, but you can't expect prices to drop if they can't produce the parts in any reasonable volume, especially for more common markets (the 7770 and 7750). More on it: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4234961/TSMC-manufacturing-process-in-troubleI think this card virutally confirms the rumors that the 7870 will be weaker than the 6970 while costing more.
My comments reflect more on that individual than the company as a whole then. I didn't realize tviceman had misquoted it.
Until 28nm gets fixed and there's more production, it will stay like that. I've said this previously, but you can't expect prices to drop if they can't produce the parts in any reasonable volume, especially for more common markets (the 7770 and 7750). More on it: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4234961/TSMC-manufacturing-process-in-trouble
...Because?
Price will go down somewhat but not sure about performance. 5770 has not really surpassed 4870 1GB as many people said it would except games had become alot more demanding of VRAM making it the 4870 512MB perform horrendously in TPUs benchmarks. The 6850 and 6870 has not really surpassed the 5850 and 5870 as people predicted either except in tessellation bound benchmarks where they already performed better from day one.
I think this card virutally confirms the rumors that the 7870 will be weaker than the 6970 while costing more.
Im expecting that HD7800 will be double the HD7700 at 1280 ALUs and close to 240-260mm2.