Official HD7770/7750 Reviews Thread

[JAG87]

Because of AMD? AMD does not control Nvidia's MSRP. If you're going to bitch about the price of Nvidia's video cards, then lay the blame squarely at the feet of the company actually responsible.

NVIDIA.

I'm not bitching about the prices of NV, I'm bitching about the prices of video cards in general. How can you say it's not AMD's fault? This year, they were the first on the market with a new architecture and they induced the price increase relative to last generation. They went from $369 MSRP to $549 MSRP. Apples to apples keeping all things fair, we are looking at a $700 GTX 680.

Are you okay with that?

If you feel the 7970 is priced correctly, then I guess you also don't have a problem with a $700 GTX 680?

 

[blckgrffn]

I'm not bitching about the prices of NV, I'm bitching about the prices of video cards in general. How can you say it's not AMD's fault? This year, they were the first on the market with a new architecture and they induced the price increase relative to last generation. They went from $369 MSRP to $549 MSRP. Apples to apples keeping all things fair, we are looking at a $700 GTX 680.

Are you okay with that?

If you feel the 7970 is priced correctly, then I guess you also don't have a problem with a $700 GTX 680?

BLAME CONSUMERS.

Other guys 'n gals willing to drop that much money are the problem.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Get ready people. The AMD marketers will be in full force for this one. Check back in this thread from time to time for the lolz and obvious spamming about power consumption, want to be cool with "new gen" pay premium prices "all your friends are doing it", ultimate htpc card, etc..

We're not going down this path. If you have a problem with a post report it, otherwise you're just looking to cause problems and we'll treat you accordingly
-ViRGE

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I'm not bitching about the prices of NV, I'm bitching about the prices of video cards in general. How can you say it's not AMD's fault? This year, they were the first on the market with a new architecture and they induced the price increase relative to last generation. They went from $369 MSRP to $549 MSRP. Apples to apples keeping all things fair, we are looking at a $700 GTX 680.

Are you okay with that?

If you feel the 7970 is priced correctly, then I guess you also don't have a problem with a $700 GTX 680?

Save your breath. There is an obvious "bias" by many "members" here. Doesn't matter if the 7770 would of been $250 they'd be in here to defend it and bring up any positives they can no matter how worthless it is to 99.9% of gamers. If the contents of this thread don't prove it I don't know what else will. I'll just grab a chair and some popcorn and see what they come up with this time.

 

[JAG87]

BLAME CONSUMERS.

Other guys 'n gals willing to drop that much money are the problem.

Well of course, companies wouldn't exist without customers. Anytime it sounds like I am blaming the company, I'm really blaming the people buying their products.

Save your breath. There is an obvious "bias" by many "members" here. Doesn't matter if the 7770 would of been $250 they'd be in here to defend it and bring up any positives they can no matter how worthless it is to 99.9% of gamers. If the contents of this thread don't prove it I don't know what else will. I'll just grab a chair and some popcorn and see what they come up with this time.

No kidding...

 

[MrTeal]

Can someone find one reason why anybody should buy the 7770 over the 6870, 6850, GTX460 1GB, GTX560?

As others have said, if you've got a Dell or HP with HD-2000 and you don't have a lot of power room to use up, the 7770 might be a great card to upgrade to.


Now, once you start seeing the 7770 in laptop, then you'll have a winner. The 6970m is a 6850 underclocked to 615MHz. The 7770 would be faster at stock clocks and consume less power, with the zero core power making it ideal for running in 2D mode.

 

[Troll Trolling]

The chip seems really good, good perf, good perf/watt, etc.

Terribly overpriced though.

 

[Phynaz]

I don't get why people are upset about the launch price. Mid-range has always launched at this price.

By spring these will be at least $30 cheaper.

Are we really expecting new product to cost less than existing product? I'm not aware of the chip business working in this way for a long time now.

When was the last time Intel or AMD released a cpu with 30% - 40% greater performance at a lower price?

 

[blackened23]

Since someone brought the 7970 up -- While I think that the 7970 could be priced lower, I find it abolutely hilarious that anyone would completely ignore nvidia's pricing history and then attack AMD on price. 7970 is still the same MSRP as the 3gb GTX 580 new while being 20%-25% faster at stock and up to 80% faster overclocked.

Regarding the 7770, which IIRC this thread is about -- yes, it is overpriced and doesn't meet expectations. Not sure why 7970 was brought into the picture.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I don't get paid or get free stuff to post about this stuff so it does me no good to sit here and argue with those that do. I'll just say look at the benchmarks, Price vs what's available at that price point, then make your decision.
As far as power consumption the difference in these new cards vs what's available is so small you'd have to game 24 hours a day for a month to save about $1. Most of these cards won't see that much use in 2 years so take it for what it's worth.

Peace out.

 

[Leadbox]

Most of those complaining about the price were NEVER going to get this card anyways. Its the same lot of ppl who were hoping AMD would give them a price war and they can get cheapish NV parts. Not all of them mind you..... just some

 

[Phynaz]

Power consumption isn't only about cost.

In my case I don't like having all that heat around me in the summer. Makes gaming pretty uncomfortable.

 

[blckgrffn]

I don't get paid or get free stuff to post about this stuff so it does me no good to sit here and argue with those that do. I'll just say look at the benchmarks, Price vs what's available at that price point, then make your decision.
As far as power consumption the difference in these new cards vs what's available is so small you'd have to game 24 hours a day for a month to save about $1. Most of these cards won't see that much use in 2 years so take it for what it's worth.

Peace out.

As long as AMD sells every card they make at that price, the market has spoken. The card is worth the price to enough people that your opinion is irrelevant.

Not that I am going to buy one any time soon either. They are way too rich for my blood

$200 is my personal ceiling.

 

[MrTeal]

So, when are the cards going to be available? I thought this was supposed to be a hard launch with plenty of supply.

 

[superjim]

My reaction.

^this

Had the 7770 ran neck-and-neck with the 6870 it would still be a slight disappointment seeing how you can get a 6870 for $150 AR right now.

 

[exar333]

Most of those complaining about the price were NEVER going to get this card anyways. Its the same lot of ppl who were hoping AMD would give them a price war and they can get cheapish NV parts. Not all of them mind you..... just some

So you support the same price/perf 2 years later? I take it you are not an enthusiast?

7750 is OK (fits a niche because it doesn't need external power and is significantly faster than IGPs)

7770 is the same price/perf as products release in 2010. Fail.

 

[blckgrffn]

So you support the same price/perf 2 years later? I take it you are not an enthusiast?

7750 is OK (fits a niche because it doesn't need external power and is significantly faster than IGPs)

7770 is the same price/perf as products release in 2010. Fail.

As stated previously, that would have made the 5770 a fail too. History seems to say otherwise once the price reached where it needed to be.

Are we expecting this to be different? Will nvidia have a knockout punch @ $100?

Do "enthusiasts" care that much about ~$100 cards? (that is some bait )

 

[exar333]

As stated previously, that would have made the 5770 a fail too. History seems to say otherwise once the price reached where it needed to be.

Are we expecting this to be different? Will nvidia have a knockout punch @ $100?

Do "enthusiasts" care that much about ~$100 cards? (that is some bait )

I certainly care. I may not use it in my main machine, but I might need it in a HTPC or someone else' that I build.

New process + new arch and you get the same old performance at the same price point. Thats fail in my book, regardless of how many times it happens.

 

[Termie]

So, when are the cards going to be available? I thought this was supposed to be a hard launch with plenty of supply.

I will update OP when something actually shows up in stock from a reputable dealer. As of this morning, the day of launch, no cards are available for sale from major vendors. Amazon has them for pre-order between $180 and $200.

 

[MrTeal]

It's not uncommon to have the new generation come out and be more expensive than the previous; the old cards are usually heavily discounted by that point.

In this case though, we're really not seeing an improvement with the 7770. The 6850 launched 16 months ago with an MSRP of $179. Today we're seeing the 7770 launched at 12% less money with 5% less performance. Not only is the 7770 a much worse value than the 6850 right now, it's almost a wash comparing it at launch vs the 6850 at launch despite the almost year and a half gap between them.

 

[formulav8]

Edit: I change my mind alittle. Price is better than I expected to an extent but I was still hoping for better performance.

The prices are a combination of: New Agressive CEO, No NVidia Pressure (NVidia is late as usual), and new process that has junky yields (at least a couple months ago from some sources), and they look worse because of the 68xx being so cheap right now..

So.... When NVidia finally shows up that will = some kind of price drop and when yields get good that will = more savings for amd and hopefully they will pass the savings on to the customer which will = another price drop. Another thing that could warrant a price drop is if they end up with lots of unsold cards because people aren't buying them.

Time will tell, but to me its not so much the price as it is with wanting more performance.

One interesting thing though is AMD was the first to release a 1ghz CPU and now a 1GHZ GPU as released.

 

[blckgrffn]

I certainly care. I may not use it in my main machine, but I might need it in a HTPC or someone else' that I build.

New process + new arch and you get the same old performance at the same price point. Thats fail in my book, regardless of how many times it happens.

Fair enough. I take Anands stance that when this is priced right (a true successor to the 5/6770) it will be a card that offers performance in line with its price.

Right now I will just ignore it. There are plenty of alternatives.

 

[Leyawiin]

Discount the HD 7770 by 20% and it would be a good card at a fair price. Right now its a good card and a poor deal. The efficiency strides are interesting though.

 

[DeeJayeS]

I called both AMD and NV headquarters this morning and asked them to send me the 7970 and 580 respectively for free. Surprisingly, both companies refused. I am now furious and will refuse to buy from either company now or in the future.

I blame them for my budget/finances not allowing for me to spend anything on a GPU, but still feel entitled to the latest and greatest graphics performance.

In short, capitalism sucks.

DJ

 

[badb0y]

7750 is OK

7770 needs to come down in price.

As for the 7970 unless something competes with it, it won't come down in price.