Official ICS & Galaxy Nexus Launch Thread

[Anubis]

SGS2 ~=207PPI

GN ~=315PPI

Pentile layout gives you more RGB sub pixels then an actual RGB display in this case due to the overall pixel density. I would expect if we ever more to 1080p displays for phones they will all be pentile and stay that way for many reasons.

we will get there and hopefully further

i really hope Toshiba can shrink this down

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5002/toshiba-releases-61-display-with-resolution-of-2560x1600

 

[senseamp]

we will get there and hopefully further

i really hope Toshiba can shrink this down

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5002/toshiba-releases-61-display-with-resolution-of-2560x1600

I love how phones and tablets are becoming high res devices.
In the meantime, the PC Makers think that 768p is good enough for a 15 inch laptop. Then they wonder why their market is stagnating.

 

[MrX8503]

I love how phones and tablets are becoming high res devices.
In the meantime, the PC Makers think that 768p is good enough for a 15 inch laptop. Then they wonder why their market is stagnating.

To be fair, you would hold a phone or tablet closer to your face than you would a laptop. I would love an ultra high res laptop, but the benefits are more realized in a tablet/phone.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

And you don't have these music and photos stored on a hard drive? Seems like a very easily taken care of concern.

Edit: Oh wait, read your post wrong.

You should get into Google Music. Only a 20000 song limit.

And photos can be uploaded to numerous online back up/cloud solutions.

Ill probably look into it when I switch to Verizon. Sprint's network was too shitty to even think about streaming anything.

 

[Red Storm]

FYI, if you want T9 dial searching, I believe the (free) Contapps has this function (it's a dial replacement app).

 

[senseamp]

To be fair, you would hold a phone or tablet closer to your face than you would a laptop. I would love an ultra high res laptop, but the benefits are more realized in a tablet/phone.

Yes, but laptop screen is also 15 times the area of smartphone screen. For same resolution. Even after accounting for the viewing distance, if you hold a phone in front of you, it still won't cover a laptop screen at normal viewing distance.

 

[YoungGun21]

Laptop companies screwed themselves by selling at $400. Now that is all consumers want. A cheap laptop. The computer would be too expensive if they tried 1080p, and it probably wouldn't sell well in comparison.

 

[randomlinh]

Laptop companies screwed themselves by selling at $400. Now that is all consumers want. A cheap laptop. The computer would be too expensive if they tried 1080p, and it probably wouldn't sell well in comparison.

I don't think so. They don't really sell them at a loss, just very slim margins. the people that want $400 laptops... won't really care about high res displays. Just look at all the 13x7 15.6" screens that sell.

There will always be a high end market (likely driven by apple for the consumers). Or eventually, the higher res screens will just become dirt cheap. It just might take a while.

 

[MrX8503]

Yes, but laptop screen is also 15 times the area of smartphone screen. For same resolution. Even after accounting for the viewing distance, if you hold a phone in front of you, it still won't cover a laptop screen at normal viewing distance.

I don't notice the blurriness of a laptop screen as much as a phone/tablet because the laptop screen is farther away. Its all about if the visibility of the individual pixels.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I don't notice the blurriness of a laptop screen as much as a phone/tablet because the laptop screen is farther away. Its all about if the visibility of the individual pixels.

exactly. it's like why do 720p and 1080p not matter for a TV? Because you sit so far away. But why do people drool over the new 27" monitors being 1440p instead of 1200p? It makes a difference.

It's less and less a factor when you sit further away. There's obviously a ratio of how close you use your device from your face.

 

[senseamp]

exactly. it's like why do 720p and 1080p not matter for a TV? Because you sit so far away. But why do people drool over the new 27" monitors being 1440p instead of 1200p? It makes a difference.

It's less and less a factor when you sit further away. There's obviously a ratio of how close you use your device from your face.

You notice that 768p screen fits less of a webpage than a 1080p screen. It's not just about pixels being visible, it's also about not having to scroll all the time

 

[hans007]

it alld epends on the market. these high res screens are only on the absolute most high end phones.

peoplestill buy 720p 50" plasmas if they are cheap. the majority of phones still have 480x320 or elss resolution. hell At&t even said that the 3gs was their 2nd highest selling cellphone. and from stats i've read online 2/3 of android phones sold worldwide cost $150 or less (not sure if that includes carrier subsidies, but i'm assumign that still produces a pretty decent phone given an optimus V costs less than $150 and its a 480x320 phone).

most people do not want high end. that is why high end stuff costs os much, its a niche market relatively. i'd love to have more high res laptops etc, but they will cost more and we live in an age where $100 more for a laptop that produces what most people would consider negligible benefit, is baby food or something to your average broke ass american (or heaven forbid the rest of the world which is even poorer).

in south american countires people still buy refurbished 15" and 17" lcds because they are cheaper. they know a 27" 2560x1440 display is nicer, but it costs 9 times as much.

you guys might as well whine that not ever car ni america is RWD , with a DSG gearbox, and like heated seats, and a nav system with google maps and turbocharged direct injection start stop and a lithium ion hybrid system.

since well if EVERYONE had to buy a car like that the economies of scale would force prices down say 15%. of course 15% less than a lot woudl still be liek 100% more than an econobox.

 

[runawayprisoner]

I love how phones and tablets are becoming high res devices.
In the meantime, the PC Makers think that 768p is good enough for a 15 inch laptop. Then they wonder why their market is stagnating.

Because texts on a laptop are fixed at 8 pixels forever (metaphorically speaking, of course). Scale the screen resolution up and texts become so small that an ant's eyes would bleed.

But DPI scaling is horrible because it just enlarges texts without enlarging other screen elements. A lot of applications would have their visual elements blocked because they were built to support that 72 or 96dpi rule. Thus laptops and desktop OSes without proper screen scaling are better off having lower resolution screen to balance relative text elements.

But I would definitely agree with you that higher resolution screens should be used. At least 1920 x 1080 is visible on 13", so 15" should be able to handle at least that much.

I don't notice the blurriness of a laptop screen as much as a phone/tablet because the laptop screen is farther away. Its all about if the visibility of the individual pixels.

Well, I would definitely be able to see individual pixels on a 1920 x 1080 13" screen when it's about 16 - 20" away from my face.

While I agree that laptops shouldn't have higher resolution screens until there exist OSes that are truly resolution-independent, I wouldn't say that the visibility of individual pixels is that hard to notice.

I can even discern individual pixels on the Retina Display on my iPhone 4 if it's held close enough (but not directly in front of my eyes, of course).

 

[obidamnkenobi]

it alld epends on the market. these high res screens are only on the absolute most high end phones.

peoplestill buy 720p 50" plasmas if they are cheap. the majority of phones still have 480x320 or elss resolution. hell At&t even said that the 3gs was their 2nd highest selling cellphone. and from stats i've read online 2/3 of android phones sold worldwide cost $150 or less (not sure if that includes carrier subsidies, but i'm assumign that still produces a pretty decent phone given an optimus V costs less than $150 and its a 480x320 phone).

most people do not want high end. that is why high end stuff costs os much, its a niche market relatively. i'd love to have more high res laptops etc, but they will cost more and we live in an age where $100 more for a laptop that produces what most people would consider negligible benefit, is baby food or something to your average broke ass american (or heaven forbid the rest of the world which is even poorer).

in south american countires people still buy refurbished 15" and 17" lcds because they are cheaper. they know a 27" 2560x1440 display is nicer, but it costs 9 times as much.

you guys might as well whine that not ever car ni america is RWD , with a DSG gearbox, and like heated seats, and a nav system with google maps and turbocharged direct injection start stop and a lithium ion hybrid system.

since well if EVERYONE had to buy a car like that the economies of scale would force prices down say 15%. of course 15% less than a lot woudl still be liek 100% more than an econobox.

Good points.
I also think it's often a case of many idiots look only at price and end up buying a $400 laptop that they have to replace in 2 years, rather than buying a $800 one that lasts for 4-5 years. I (and I suspect most others here) actually do research and prefer to pay a little more for stuff that lasts, but that definitely puts me (us) in the minority. Say what you will about Apple, but part of their strategy is actually to sell to people who will pay more for quality products. It just really irritates me that almost nobody else try do this properly.

I forget the exact story, but something on Anand about a better Wifi chip in a laptop would add $15 costs, so it was unacceptable to the manufacturer..

 

[Bateluer]

Sammy just confirmed that they will not be using Gorilla Glass in the Gnex.
They stated they use another type of fortified glass, but did not specify.

 

[slayer202]

sigh. I'm becoming less and less excited about this phone. Time to seriously consider the razr, or even waiting a few months. ugh

 

[Red Storm]

Sammy just confirmed that they will not be using Gorilla Glass in the Gnex.
They stated they use another type of fortified glass, but did not specify.

I wonder whose glass they're using? I only know of Gorilla Glass, but they no doubt have competitors.

Still doesn't change my decision though. Can't wait to get this phone.

 

[Anubis]

Sammy just confirmed that they will not be using Gorilla Glass in the Gnex.
They stated they use another type of fortified glass, but did not specify.

yea i was supprised we came out and said that, There are similar products but the obviously are not as good

 

[vshah]

yea i was supprised we came out and said that, There are similar products but the obviously are not as good

"WE" do you work @ corning?

 

[Anubis]

"WE" do you work @ corning?

Yes

 

[zerocool84]

Sammy just confirmed that they will not be using Gorilla Glass in the Gnex.
They stated they use another type of fortified glass, but did not specify.

Because of the curved glass on the display, same as the Nexus S.

 

[vshah]

Yes

cool!

Because of the curved glass on the display, same as the Nexus S.

did nexus S have an easily scratch-able screen?

 

[zerogear]

Can someone tell me what the merit is of having a curved screen? Asides from, it fits your face better.

 

[Red Storm]

I believe it also helps negate the larger phone size

 

[Headcase_Fargone]

I believe it's also intended to prevent scratches on the screen from setting it face down. Only the edges touch the surface on which it rests, rather than the entirety of the screen itself.