Official ICS & Galaxy Nexus Launch Thread

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poofyhairguy

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What those benches tell me is that a GNex with a 4S-level GPU would be the perfect phone. If that is what the SGS3 ends up being Samsung will rule the Android market for another year.
 

Demo24

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I wonder if due to the deals going on it was pushed to give the razr/rezound more sales for BF, and/or potential volume bug.
 
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I was doing some research about the Galaxy Nexus before placing my order and I came across the issue with the phone volume changing up and down automatically. video of the problem in action. It seems the problem isn't isolated but widespread judging by this and this. It's probably software issue but it could also be hardware too. And if it's hardware issue, it would be a pain in the ass to ship the phone back to UK to do warranty repair or replacement. I got burned with faulty hardware GPS with my Samsung Vibrant by buying it on the release date. I thought it was software issue and would be fixed shortly but we know how that went. Early Vibrant had faulty GPS hardware and Samsung never admitted or fixed the issue. They quietly corrected it on the new Vibrant 4g by using a different chip and then discontinued the original faulty Vibrant without ever doing a recall fix. It still pisses me off Samsung got away selling millions of Galaxy S with broken GPS and never had to fix or replace it.

So I read something like this and it gives me pause. Then throw in reports of subpar battery life and missing Flash and now I'm wondering if I should just wait for the US version. Ugh. It's ~$700 shipped from Handtec UK and they're supposed to get in stock tomorrow.

Well the international versions of the SGS1 got fixed fast and got Froyo relatively quickly--much faster than my Motorola Milestone or Droid got Froyo at least. You can blame the US version delays on the US carriers. However, this is a Nexus phone, so hopefully the carriers don't have a death grip over the software updates.

I think you should breathe easier knowing:
1) It's a nexus phone
2) Even the international phones will have software fixes fast because it's widely used and XDA will have a HUGE developer section no doubt.
 
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Why would the GSM version of the GNex have passed through the FCC if it was never planned to be released here? Does Samsung really have to do that even if they're only giving out demo units?
because GSM is used in the US and a device that is capable of operating by transmitting and receiving frequencies in the US should also pass the FCC?

Just because our gestapo carriers aren't going to carry the version everyone uses, doesn't mean the FCC stops caring...
 

ponyo

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Well the international versions of the SGS1 got fixed fast and got Froyo relatively quickly--much faster than my Motorola Milestone or Droid got Froyo at least. You can blame the US version delays on the US carriers. However, this is a Nexus phone, so hopefully the carriers don't have a death grip over the software updates.

I think you should breathe easier knowing:
1) It's a nexus phone
2) Even the international phones will have software fixes fast because it's widely used and XDA will have a HUGE developer section no doubt.

Software fixes won't fix hardware defect. Many at XDA are now speculating it's hardware problem. If so, nothing short of recall will completely fix it.
 

Andrmgic

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Apparently only O2 and Vodafone customers are affected.. and only when they have spotty 3G coverage.. issue seems to be on 900Mhz EDGE..

No carrier in the US uses that frequency.. so we wouldn't see it here.. would explain why it didn't pop up in the reviews from the US..
 

Zivic

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I should have mine by the end of the week or early next week as it looks today. cannot wait.
 
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Software fixes won't fix hardware defect. Many at XDA are now speculating it's hardware problem. If so, nothing short of recall will completely fix it.

The volume issue?

Ok but the GPS issue on the SGS1 phones were software related. Furthermore, the GPS on the SGS1 is weak to begin with. So is the radio.

I wouldn't call the GPS broken on the SGS1. It's just weak to begin with. People who aren't good at debugging stuff will jump to conclusions and claim it's broken. Kinda like the Toyota runaway acceleration issue?

Here I see how people claim it happened to 900mhz EDGE and what not, but I don't see how volume and radio is related AT ALL. If anything this should be a software issue. There's nothing else capable of physically triggering the volume so it must be software. Now unless you're saying the whole radio chip is just bad and sending false signals out, then who knows...

Quite honestly, the Nexus S had something similar with the 2.3.4 or was it 2.3.5 update? With a certain radio... XXKD1 I believe, there was a "search button" bug where the search button would go insane and trigger itself like the volume bug on the Galaxy Nexus. This was simply fixed in the 2.3.6 update or if oyu just flashed your radio to an older revision it worked fine.
 

Nvidiaguy07

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The gps, on the galaxy is absolutely broken. There was no software fix. Purple would claim to get better results using different configurations, but nothing universally worked, and when when it did it sucked.

I have the phone, and i cab attest to it.

Hell i would even consider a gps that works 90percent of the time to be broken. What good is it if you can't rely on it. My captivate works maybe 10 percent of the time, and poorly when it does.

I think this is a valid concern, and i wouldn't spend 700+ to import until the issue is addressed.

Sent from my SGH-I897 using Tapatalk
 

sygyzy

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because GSM is used in the US and a device that is capable of operating by transmitting and receiving frequencies in the US should also pass the FCC?

Just because our gestapo carriers aren't going to carry the version everyone uses, doesn't mean the FCC stops caring...

Sorry, this answer doesn't make sense. I am not that knowledgeable about cars but it's like saying there's a VW Jetta TDI Diesel that is only sold in Europe (NOT here) but in America since we use diesel as well, the NHTSA should crash test the European Jetta.
 
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Sorry, this answer doesn't make sense. I am not that knowledgeable about cars but it's like saying there's a VW Jetta TDI Diesel that is only sold in Europe (NOT here) but in America since we use diesel as well, the NHTSA should crash test the European Jetta.

Because cell phones can easily be taken across the ocean? It's quite possible the European phone can make its way here and it's not just European. It's EVERY OTHER COUNTRY BUT the US.... That's why the FCC tests it because it's operable with AT&T and T-Mobile, and people actively take phones to different countries.

I know with Verizon many people are sheltered and go phoneless or rely on roaming overseas, but that's rare. With European and Asian markets, people take their phones everywhere. I kinda operate the same way on AT&T too. Even though my phone is the 9020A for NAM frequencies, it doesn't really need to be thought of as having a home country. It works anywhere....
 

obidamnkenobi

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So if the nexus is a VZW exclusive, as seems to be the rumor for now (?) I think my best plan on AT&T would be to get an iPhone 4S on contract, ebay that and import a UK Nexus. Anyone know how easy it is to get a decent price for a 4S on ebay? I see a ton of them there so a bit worried about getting stuck with it unless I sell low. Which iPhone is regarded as the most "sellable"?

The nexus is still $700 which is kinda crazy, but if I get $600 for the 4S I'll be out $300 for the nexus, so guess that works out.

Still not sure I want to go with this plan though, especially not with possible hardware issues, but I seriously doubt AT&T will ever sell the nexus. And if they do I'd bet it will be another 6 months from now.
 

ponyo

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handtec putting all Galaxy Nexus shipment on hold due to volume bug

UPDATE A further tests have shown that there is an issue with the volume on some tested units – we will keep you updated
UPDATE BThe tests are showing when in 2G mode the volume is acting erratically – we at this point are putting all shipments on hold.
UPDATE C Some units have already been shipped however we understand that some customers would still like to have their units shipped with this potential issue if so – please email support@handtec.co.uk with your order number. Please note by doing this P&P will need to covered both ways (by customer) in the event of returns regarding the volume issue. If customers would like to wait until Samsung resolves the issue then you do not need to do anything.

Some already shipped out and you can still request yours to ship. But by doing this you're basically acknowledging you're aware of the bug but don't care. This is pretty much confirmed to be hardware bug. Samsung and Google can release software patch to mask the bug but at the expense of cpu power and battery life. Nothing short of a recall and hardware fix will correctly fix this bug.
 
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slayer202

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I know very little about phone hardware, but it seems odd that volume not working correctly while in 2G mode would be a hardware and not a software issue. That's a pain though
 

fumanstan0

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I'm glad I didn't go out and rush to import a Nexus for T-Mobile Hope its something they can fix, I've been itching to upgrade to something on T-Mobile.
 

ponyo

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They're already a step above by acknowledging the issue and stopping shipments instead of saying deal with the issue or put a case on it.

Who said anything about Samsung acknowledging the issue and stopping shipments? Handtec UK is the one who's stopping shipment til more is known and they're just retail shop (but one with ethic). If history is any guide, Samsung won't ever admit anything and simply pass the problem to Google. Judging by this post, that's what they're already doing.

Guys, I bring fresh news. I just came back from a Phones4U store, the guy there was really friendly and really knew what he was talking about(what a pleasant surprise), and he said that they received a new batch of Galaxy Nexuses in the store today, and they have one of them open. So I asked him if we could try it with my O2 card to see if the issue still exists. He said sure, so we booted it up, and I checked - both the baseband and build numbers are the same as in my Nexus from last week. The issue is still there, when connected to a 2G network volume goes crazy. And then the guy said that he can actually call the Samsung support line, but a one dedicated to the stores, so they might know more. And here is where the bullshit begins - the guy from Samsung said that from their early investigation it seems like an android issue,and they are not responsible for that, so they have forwarded this issue to Google and they are awaiting a reply. I took over from there, and after making sure that the guy knows what a bootloader is, I told him that this issue exists even when in the bootloader mode and can be caused by another phone interfering with the nexus' hardware. He said that he can't confirm that so all he can say for now it that it's probably google's fault,but if it turns otherwise they will take an appropriate action.

So no definite statements right now, Samsung has officially the worst technical team in the world, we have to wait and see what happens.
 

AznAnarchy99

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So whats the resell rate on the Droid Razr? Would I have a problem of selling it and getting the Nexus when it comes out?
 
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