Official ICS & Galaxy Nexus Launch Thread

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sgrinavi

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Which phone to buy unlocked? Galaxy Nexus or Lumia 800?

Those are two completely different animals. Ones a windows phone and the other Android.

Which OS do you like better? What are you going to do with it?
 

redrider4life4

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Does anyone know if you buy the Galaxy Nexus at launch (for $299) and then there is a price drop right before xmas to say $199 you can get your money back? I know this is how most products work, you have 30 days or something if it goes on sale, not sure if it is the same for phones though.
 

Andrmgic

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It really is looking like Verizon doesn't want to release this phone..

I feel bad for the folks who are waiting on them to release it.
 

basslover1

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It really is looking like Verizon doesn't want to release this phone..

I feel bad for the folks who are waiting on them to release it.

I'm sure Verizon isn't innocent in this whole thing, but really the tech blogs are the biggest offenders in this situation. Verizon hasn't announced a release date, everything to this point has been speculation.
 

cecco

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True, but at the unveil Google did mention it would be available in November, so there is a bit of disappointment.
 

vshah

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not to purchase but image here

P3droid on Twitter said it doesnt stick out much more than the stock battery. Also the price reads as $49.99

wonder if it'll work on the gsm version, considering the lte is already thicker.
 

Hogan773

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No one (outside of NDA-signed sources) knows for sure - some rumors have it pegged anywhere from 4 weeks to 3 months. It has been submitted for FCC approval with AT&T GSM bands so I would think it wouldn't be too far off.

Yes, I've seen images of going into the Mobile Network settings and being able to choose "CDMA only".

Just a guess but devices with Krait will probably be unveiled at Mobile World Congress in late Feburary. Perhaps CES? Qualcomm is predicting a 2H 2012 release but that's a lot of time between the conference so the optimist in me says late Q2 of 2012. All speculation of course.

Thanks. I gotta pull the trigger before then. I don't have ANY smartphone right now. Just by BB 9700 for work - and trust me the web browsing on that thing is hardly even useable. I managed to find one phone number and a few other things yesterday, but waiting literally 1 to 2 MINUTES for a page to load is ridiculous, plus you're reading a postage stamp screen with no touchscreen capabilities.

My problem is once I start researching things I need to make the call on how much longer to wait. When researching my PC upgrade last year around this time, I wisely waiting for a couple months to get SandyBridge. I just wanted to make sure that a similar phenomenon wasn't going to happen here. I'm likely to stay on AT&T and I am in an LTE city so I was focusing on the Skyrocket or the GNex. I want to be able to use the phone when travelling internationally and my discount is better on AT&T so that is 2 big strikes against Verizon. Just don't know whether it is worth waiting for GNex to come to AT&T. Honestly when I look at a Skyrocket the screen seems perfectly sharp and useable to me. I know others on here say "800x480 is just RIDICULOUS!!!" etc. Chose not to jump on the Amazon 1 cent sale as I wanted to see more about the LG Nitro and also try to get a better bead on an AT&T GNex. I can't wait much longer because every day like yesterday where I need to use mobile web and all I have is that damn Blackberry are painful days to say the least.
 

abaez

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You can import the GN now to work on AT&T if you want.

I don't know what to do at this point - get a SGSii for ~$300 using $200 in Amex points from Amazon, or go with the GNEX for like ~$500. Ughhhhh.
 

Hogan773

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You can import the GN now to work on AT&T if you want.

I don't know what to do at this point - get a SGSii for ~$300 using $200 in Amex points from Amazon, or go with the GNEX for like ~$500. Ughhhhh.

Yeah but I don't get that logic. I am going to be paying the SAME monthly service fee whether I go contract or no-contact. So I can pay $500-600 for a piece of hardware or I could pay 1 cent for a piece of hardware. I'm not really convinced that the benefits of GNex vs Skyrocket = $500! Yes then I am retaining OPTIONALITY to switch carriers within next 2 years, but given that I would prefer to have GSM capability rather than CDMA, and given the fact that I save money every month on AT&T vs Verizon through a better corporate discount, and given that I have an unlimited grandfathered data plan on AT&T, I'm not sure how likely it is that I will bolt for Verizon anyway.

I guess the nice thing about not signing a contract is that I could then wait and get a better phone in 6 months when the Krait phones come out. But by then, how likely is it that I could re-sell my Euro-GSM GNex that I bought for $600 today? By then all the tech geeks will be drooling about whatever the next phone is, so I might get $200 on Ebay for a GNex?

As I think about it, perhaps a Third Option that I haven't really considered is to see if there is a CHEAP smartphone to pick up on Ebay (what could I get for $100 or less???) and then use that for the next 6 - 9 months to tide me over until a better LTE phone comes out, and at that point I could get into a subsidized contract with that phone. Anyone think about doing that? I know most people on here are not in my situation so they already HAVE a smartphone, so their equivalent is just waiting and continuing to use what they have.

Any recommendations on a good smartphone that might be able to pick up on the cheap, and that would let me use AT&T's HSPA+ 14mbps or 21mbps? I haven't been paying attention to smartphones until recently and would prefer to get some recs from you guys rather than go back and start reading reviews from 1 or 2 years ago......or is this Third Option a bad strategy to begin with?
 

AznAnarchy99

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Well I have to get a phone by this Saturday. Im probably picking up a Rezound at Costco and Ill just return it later for a Nexus.
 

Red Storm

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Yeah but I don't get that logic. I am going to be paying the SAME monthly service fee whether I go contract or no-contact. So I can pay $500-600 for a piece of hardware or I could pay 1 cent for a piece of hardware.

They're different hardware (and in this case, software as well). One will get updates as soon as they're available, while the other is up to the carrier. Also, I think it's definitely worth it to not be tied down to a long term contract. Technology advances too quickly to be stuck with one company for 2 years.
 

poofyhairguy

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As I think about it, perhaps a Third Option that I haven't really considered is to see if there is a CHEAP smartphone to pick up on Ebay (what could I get for $100 or less???) and then use that for the next 6 - 9 months to tide me over until a better LTE phone comes out, and at that point I could get into a subsidized contract with that phone.

If you were waiting for a subsidized AT&T Gnex you were probably going to wait 6 months anyway.

I think getting something now is a good plan. Maybe a Captivate?
 

iahk

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I think they said Europe and Asia in November, the rest of the world by the end of the year.

At the press event, they just stated the launch would start in November and rollout to different territories throughout the rest of the year. They never stated specifically where.

Also when Matias Duarte was on On The Verge show and they tried to pull a date out of him for a US release, he specifically stated that he couldn't steal Google's partner's thunder but we would see it in November. So Verizon is pretty much doing their own thing with this phone at this point.
 

Hogan773

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They're different hardware (and in this case, software as well). One will get updates as soon as they're available, while the other is up to the carrier. Also, I think it's definitely worth it to not be tied down to a long term contract. Technology advances too quickly to be stuck with one company for 2 years.

But do you really think that in 2 years one of the majors like Verizon or AT&T will become so unpalatable as to be unacceptable as a carrier? They're both having LTE now. Within 2 years one of them will have screwed up so royally, or within 2 years one of them (but not both) will have implemented a completely better technology? I'm not talking about handset hardware here. I'm talking about whether or not to take the payola from the network in exchange for staying with them for 2 years. It would be DIFFERENT if they gave a discount on service for those why bring their own phone rather than getting a subsidized - then I would be happy to frontload my payments in exchange for paying less each month. But if I'm paying the same each month, then NOT taking advantage of that payola for a subsidized phone means that I am paying $600 just for the OPTION to be able to move carriers. But if I get 1 year into a 2 yr plan I could cancel anyway and still be out much less than $600.
 

Red Storm

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But do you really think that in 2 years one of the majors like Verizon or AT&T will become so unpalatable as to be unacceptable as a carrier? They're both having LTE now. Within 2 years one of them will have screwed up so royally, or within 2 years one of them (but not both) will have implemented a completely better technology? I'm not talking about handset hardware here. I'm talking about whether or not to take the payola from the network in exchange for staying with them for 2 years. It would be DIFFERENT if they gave a discount on service for those why bring their own phone rather than getting a subsidized - then I would be happy to frontload my payments in exchange for paying less each month. But if I'm paying the same each month, then NOT taking advantage of that payola for a subsidized phone means that I am paying $600 just for the OPTION to be able to move carriers. But if I get 1 year into a 2 yr plan I could cancel anyway and still be out much less than $600.

Well you can't really leave the different hardware out of the picture, that is the reason why would you get a phone off contract.

To me, the extra cost is definitely worth it because you get a much better phone (including software and support). I like to save my upgrades for things like new iPhone releases. I use the upgrade and then immediately sell the phone for profit and either pocket the money, or use it to buy the phone I actually want.

If you're fine going with the Skyrocket, then by all means go right ahead. I'm just giving my own opinion (that I wouldn't get any other existing phone knowing the Nexus is out there).
 

Hogan773

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Well you can't really leave the different hardware out of the picture, that is the reason why would you get a phone off contract.

To me, the extra cost is definitely worth it because you get a much better phone (including software and support). I like to save my upgrades for things like new iPhone releases. I use the upgrade and then immediately sell the phone for profit and either pocket the money, or use it to buy the phone I actually want.

If you're fine going with the Skyrocket, then by all means go right ahead. I'm just giving my own opinion (that I wouldn't get any other existing phone knowing the Nexus is out there).

So to you it is worth $600 to get GNex NOW vs wait 6 months for one and get for free.

But the $600 GNex (that I could use on AT&T) isn't LTE correct? So you are buying ICS and a "pure" OS re: updates and getting a phone that won't ever be able to access a network that is 5-7x faster than the others. Don't you think in 9-12 months your Galaxy will look quite "old"?......when Krait LTE phones are out? You're banking at that point on being able to sell that phone at a premium to other "old" phones.
 
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Red Storm

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So to you it is worth $600 to get GNex NOW vs wait 6 months for one and get for free.

But the $600 GNex isn't LTE correct? So you are buying ICS and a "pure" OS re: updates and getting a phone that won't ever be able to access a network that is 5-7x faster than the others. Don't you think in 9-12 months your Galaxy will look quite "old"?......when Krait LTE phones are out? You're banking at that point on being able to sell that phone at a premium to other "old" phones.

I was comparing the free Skyrocket to the (not free) Nexus. To me the Skyrocket wouldn't even be taken into consideration.

I seriously doubt AT&T is going to sell the Nexus for free with a new contract. Verizon will sell it for $300 on contract, so I expect something similar from AT&T. I don't know what AT&T's LTE situation is like, but I assume the Nexus is going to work with their existing quasi "4G" no?

You can always play the waiting game. There is always going to be faster and newer phones around the corner (especially in the Android world). So go ahead and buy an interim phone to hold you over for the next few months. But when that time comes, you're going to find yourself in the exact same situation where better/faster phones are months away and you're ready to buy.

To me the Nexus is more than just another Android phone. Quick updates and no carrier bloat are very nice advantages. I like not having to root/jailbreak my phones.
 
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