*** Official Intel DP965LT Thread ***

[StephaneP]

Ok, I understand

Thank you Yorkrose !

 

[ali.tayyab]

Originally posted by: mathiasadsl
Hi,

I've just installed this MotherBoard with the E6400 Core Duo.
It's stable but I have a problem with the Processor Fan (Thermaltake orbit Blue II).

Even when I dont load my computer the fan runs a 1600rp/min.
When I try with everest to "BottleNeck" the cpu with a loop program, the cpu reach 100%, temperature increase and the fan still runs to 1600rp/min.

By visiting thermaltake, I saw that the maximum speed of this fan is 1600rp/min.

Therefore the fan is always on max.

How can I enable with this MB the Fan-auto-control?

It'll be better for my hears with a 800 or 1000 rp/min in idle status. Do not need 1600rp/min everytime.

PS= Sorry for my poor english.

Have a nice day.

this cant be done on this motherboard. the reason being that the thermal take fan comes with a 3 pin connector. for fan speed control you need a 4 pin connector which offers fan speed control (like intel's own fan does)

 

[mathiasadsl]

Thank you Alitayyab,

I checked this morning in the specification motherboard.

You're right, the motherboard fan connector is a 4 pins. My Fan Thermalatke comes with a 3 pins only.

Do you know if there's a way to convert a 3 pins -> 4 pins connector?

Mathias From France

 

[ali.tayyab]

No, this is not possible as the fan doesnt have the required control wire.
I think u can get fanmate from zalman and manually control it's speed.

 

[mathiasadsl]

OK I'm gonna buy the fanmate from Zalman but I'll have to check my CPU Temp during the summer...

However I dont even know what is maximum temperature that a Core Duo E6400 can support?

With my thermaltake fan, when I run the "stability test" from Everest, I reach about 60°C.

If a 3 pins fan cannot be controlled by motherboards, I dont understand why so many brands like Thermaltake, Zalman produce such models.
The thermaltake Blue Orb 2 is the most recent and it doesnt have a 4 pins connector. I'm very disappointed. Next time I'll have a look on the technicals specifications cause I used to only read the "noice level" ....

Thank You again alitayyab.

 

[pcy]

But the voltasge on the three pin chassis exhaust fan header vaiers in line with the control line on teh 4 pin CPU header.


So just plug the three pin CPU fan into the exhaust header.



I don't understand why Intel introduced this 4 pin fan business; particularly as they then connect their standard tornados to it.



Peter

 

[mathiasadsl]

OK,
I've just pluged my fanmate from zalman. it comes with a 3 pins connector too. So on the motherboard there's 1 pin which is not used. Now, I'm able to control the fan speed but manually. I set to 800rp/min (Notified by Everest Software).

I can hear the silent...

The only solution to setup an auto-speed is to change my fan for a 4 pins ?

What 4 pins fan did you buy for your processor ? Do you use the default fan provided by Intel or another brand?


Thank you.

 

[ali.tayyab]

no, i am using the thermal typhoon (thermal take) i dont really mind the noise, i used to have a asus star ice in my previous amd setup, so this thing is silent to me!

u can try what pcy is saying above, but i dont think it has auto fan control, atleast not according to intel. (plug fan into the rear fan connector, its 3 pin)

if the noise isnt any problem u could leave it running @ full speed, it wont do any harm.

 

[mathiasadsl]

Thank you,

I've got 2 others connectos 3 pins:
-At the back.
-At the Front.

If I plug my processor fan on the Back connector fan, usually used for the tower temperature... Will the motherboard be able to increase/decrease the processor speed fan in auto/mode?

Therefore I can conclude that there's a relationship between the processor temperature and the back fan?

Sorry but I'd like to be sure...

 

[koitsu]

Has anyone here investigated the issue between certain models of Antec NeoHE PSUs and the Intel DP965LT board? There's a thread over on SilentPCReview about the NeoHE PSUs in general. The last couple pages mention the NeoHE in regards to the DP965LT:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/vi...890&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=570

I happened to post my findings (neither of my NeoHE PSUs work with this board) too, and was hoping others could confirm here as a cross-reference.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: mathiasadsl
Thank you Alitayyab,

I checked this morning in the specification motherboard.

You're right, the motherboard fan connector is a 4 pins. My Fan Thermalatke comes with a 3 pins only.

Do you know if there's a way to convert a 3 pins -> 4 pins connector?

Mathias From France

YOu can use a 3 pin fan. Just look at the manual and it will show you how to plug it in. I am using a three pin zalman now. No need to a converter, one pin just stays unused.

For all you misinformed people saying it can't be done.

 

[mathiasadsl]

Thank you rudder,
I use a thermaltake 3 pins. It's already plugged in the 4 pins connector motherboard.
Therefore 1 pin is not used. My main problem is that there's no auto-regulation speed of the processor fan.
In a previous message altiyyab said that without a 4 pin fan connector the Bios cannot increase/decrease the speed of the processor fan.


So, I guess that your Zalman fan runs at the same speed even if your cpu does nothing.

My question is:

By using the back fan connector on the motherboard (it's a 3 pins not 4!) maybe I could plug my fan processor and regulate the speed... maybe...

 

[ali.tayyab]

according to intel the three pin connector has no fan speed control function. only the 4 pin one does

 

[66fps]

I had the same problem, my Antec NeoHE that came with the P150 wouldnt work with the DP965LT. I believe i posted something about it earlier in this thread though cant remember where. (gosh its big!)

The thread at SilentPC review describes the problem accuratly.

 

[imported_Nano]

Hi all.

I would really appreciate your help. I paid alot for this rig and now this damn mobo is giving me grief.
My problem is also Ram related. I purchased 2x512mb DDRII 667mhz Kingmax ram. I have a x1950xtx and a E6600 Core 2 with a 500W PSU.
When I insert both modules into Channel A(slot 0&1) I get the three beep codes(Memory Error). When I insert it into slot 0 of channel A & B (blue slots), the system starts up by itself! It also shows a blank screen without any error beeps. And here's the rub. Each module works fine on its own when I insert it into Channel A slot 0.

Is this a motherboard defect or should I go out and buy a single 1gb Ram module?

 

[slpaulson]

Originally posted by: Nano
Hi all.

I would really appreciate your help. I paid alot for this rig and now this damn mobo is giving me grief.
My problem is also Ram related. I purchased 2x512mb DDRII 667mhz Kingmax ram. I have a x1950xtx and a E6600 Core 2 with a 500W PSU.
When I insert both modules into Channel A(slot 0&1) I get the three beep codes(Memory Error). When I insert it into slot 0 of channel A & B (blue slots), the system starts up by itself! It also shows a blank screen without any error beeps. And here's the rub. Each module works fine on its own when I insert it into Channel A slot 0.

Is this a motherboard defect or should I go out and buy a single 1gb Ram module?

In the future I highly recommend unplugging your computer when you insert new hardware. It isn't uncommon for a computer to turn on when you insert something.

 

[imported_Nano]

It was turned off. It is when I plug the powercable back into the back of the PSU that it automatically switches on. I also unplugged the on/off switch wire from the mb to make sure its not shorted there. Same results.

 

[Guish]

Hi,

I'm playing around with the DG965WH mobo for quite a while. I was going this forum since my board shares most of the fetures of the D965LT board including BIOS and bugs.
I must say that qute an impressive amount of experience was gathered here. I woulg to share a bit with my experience and try to enrich this forum a bit More.

I'm running on an E6600 CPU with 2x512MB of Kingston 667MHz DDR2 @ 1.8V in dual chanel mode. I would like to sthrengthen the recommandations here for a 1.8V DIMMs, preferably from the list of tested memory by Intel. This point only will clear 90% of the issues with this board.

There is one more important issue. I have a 250GB 16MB cache SATAII Maxtor hard drive. This is my second drive, since the first one from the sme kind died after 5 days of use. It made the unpleasent clicking sound for a while, then died.

The 2nd drive started the same way with clicking noise. This was too much of a coincidence, since I have a 6 year old Maxtor drive with no issues what so ever and today's drive are even more reliable.

I started suspecting the settings I've made. I was using the AHCI mode in the BIOS and supplied the drivers in the supplied floppy (wanted to leverage on the latest technology, NCQ and such). Installed WinXP professional SP2. Everything seems to be working perfectly and an AHCI driver was installed in the device manager. Clicking noise, remember?

I've disabled AHCI and switched to IDE native mode in BIOS. The clicking noises stopped.
I must state that both Intel and Maxtor customer support were very unhelpful. Intel were not willing to buy a Maxtor drive and simulate and Maxtor were not willing to buy an Intel board to test it, but offered a new drive firmare with no release notes and a disclaimer this long that you'de think very long and hard if you want to touch this thing.

One day came BIOS 1545 and guess what? in the hard drives section, in the disk mode setup there is a remark that AHCI will work only in Vista. Great piece of information. Too little, to late, Intel.

Sorry, for the lengthy thread, other than this, things are running quite smoothly for the passed month with no major issues (mainly boot order incoherency, nothing critical).

Keep up the good work in this thread!.

Guish

 

[martyj19]

If some kind soul on Linux could post a lspci and lspci -n I'd be most appreciative.

Also, if anyone has any comment on the relative performance of 800 vs. 667 memory (i.e. is there a noticeable difference that makes it worth the price premium?) I am planning on a 6400 and no OC.

 

[66fps]

The FSB runs at 266MHz * 4 while DDR2-533 ram runs at 266Mhz*2, ie, DDR2-533 is a 1:1 timing match with current core2duo boards. Anything faster than 533 shouldnt matter that much then, unless you are overclocking your frontside bus.

Ill post an lspci in a sec...

 

[66fps]

omg-behold 66fps # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82P965/G965 Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82P965/G965 PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82P965/G965 HECI Controller (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DC Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev f2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HB/HR (ICH8/R) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a1)
03:00.0 IDE interface: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 6101 (rev b1)
07:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs Ectiva EV1938
07:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)

omg-behold 66fps # lspci -n
00:00.0 0600: 8086:29a0 (rev 02)
00:01.0 0604: 8086:29a1 (rev 02)
00:03.0 0780: 8086:29a4 (rev 02)
00:19.0 0200: 8086:104b (rev 02)
00:1a.0 0c03: 8086:2834 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 0c03: 8086:2835 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 0c03: 8086:283a (rev 02)
00:1b.0 0403: 8086:284b (rev 02)
00:1c.0 0604: 8086:283f (rev 02)
00:1c.1 0604: 8086:2841 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 0604: 8086:2843 (rev 02)
00:1c.3 0604: 8086:2845 (rev 02)
00:1c.4 0604: 8086:2847 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:2830 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:2831 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:2832 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:2836 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev f2)
00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2810 (rev 02)
00:1f.2 0101: 8086:2820 (rev 02)
00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:283e (rev 02)
00:1f.5 0101: 8086:2825 (rev 02)
01:00.0 0300: 10de:0391 (rev a1)
03:00.0 0101: 11ab:6101 (rev b1)
07:02.0 0401: 1102:8938
07:03.0 0c00: 104c:8023

regards,
66fps

 

[pcy]

Hi,

Originally posted by: alitayyab
according to intel the three pin connector has no fan speed control function. only the 4 pin one does

Where did you see that?


I have three DP965LTs here,nad I;ve run every bios Intle has released.


In all cases the three pin case extractor fan header chnages voltage to control speed in line with the 4 pin CPU fan header.

I'm running a 120mm fan on my CPU cooler. It set up as a sucker with an exhast (i.e it is on the exhaust side of the CPU cooler, and the hot air is ducted straight out of the case) so the CPU fan is also the case exhaust fan.

It's connected to the 3 pin case exhaust fan heder because I can't find any (suitable) 4 pin 120mm fans).

Under normal circumpstances the fan runs at about 810 rpm. As the temperature of the CPU increases above 60C (need to run two instances of Prime 95 to make this happen) the fan speed also increases to stop the temperature rising any further. Currently it's about 900 rpm.

But the 12v speed of this fan is 1200 rpm.



Peter


1/2 hour later: the CPU temp crept up to 65C, theen the fan ramped up to 1100 rpm and pulled it down to 60C again.

Just as you'd want.

 

[imported_Indigo]

The latest bios 1545, not good at all..

According to release notes: "Fixed issue where oprating system would not enable DMA transfers for SATA.."

And apparently the fix was turning down my HD to Ultra DMA 5 mode.

I flashed back to bios 1458, and now I'm back to Ultra DMA 6.

Can you check how is your hd running?

Another weird thing.. There are new INF drivers at the intel site. However, installing it did nothing at all in my system. It seems like no files were copied.

cheers

 

[pcy]

Hi,

Originally posted by: 66fps
The FSB runs at 266MHz * 4 while DDR2-533 ram runs at 266Mhz*2, ie, DDR2-533 is a 1:1 timing match with current core2duo boards. Anything faster than 533 shouldnt matter that much then, unless you are overclocking your frontside bus.

Ill post an lspci in a sec...

I don't quite agree with this.


The FSB can run continuously, but RAM is subject to all sorts of delays (latency) so it's nominal spped is actually it's top speed; and one that it cannot maintain for a sustained period.


My tests suggest that the actual bandwidth achieved if you use 667Mhz RAm rather than 533 is 25% higher, wheras a further increase to 800Mhz only produces a further 10% gain.

It seems RAm speed needs to be about 50% higher than FSB speed for teh two to be in balance.




Peter

 

[pcy]

Originally posted by: Indigo
The latest bios 1545, not good at all..

According to release notes: "Fixed issue where oprating system would not enable DMA transfers for SATA.."

And apparently the fix was turning down my HD to Ultra DMA 5 mode.

I flashed back to bios 1458, and now I'm back to Ultra DMA 6.

I just ran diskbnch against my SATA HD under 1545. I'm getting 60MB/s +/- 4MB/s at under 1% CPU utilazation.

I have no IDE HD, and I would not recommend using one on any 965 chipset mobo, so I can't check what the effect on IDE drives might be.


However, I do have an CD/DVD writer attached to the IDE controller. This is wierd:

In Device Manager, if I select Devioces by Type, the Primary IDE Controller shows DMA 6:
but if I select Devices by Connection the Primary IDE Controller changes to DMA4.


The sooner we get rid of this IDE rubbish the better.



[/quote]
Another weird thing.. There are new INF drivers at the intel site. However, installing it did nothing at all in my system. It seems like no files were copied.
[/quote]


That just means the lastest inf files caontained no changes that affect this motherbaord. The inf file is for all Mobos in the 965 range, possibly wider than that.




Peter