OFFICIAL KEPLER "GTX680" Reviews

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bryanW1995

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Why do we always have to go through this BS. [H] tends to be a pretty polarizing site, for some reason. Everytime someone says they like their reviews someone has to say they are total sh1t. It's a very good review site. It offers a unique perspective of the equipment. TPU is usefull too, but W1zzard uses heaps of outdated games and, usually, outdated drivers. He's usually not afraid though to pump some volts into the cards and see how far they will go. Very useful power numbers though. We could go on about the different sites. In the end, if one truly was difinitive, then, "there would only be one".

This gets even more tiring than nVidia vs. AMD.

I saw RussianSensation's list earlier and meant to comment on it, but I'll just throw out the sites that I typically use once a new card hits:

Anandtech
TechPowerup
HardwareCanucks

Sometimes I'll throw in [H], though that is very situational for me. For somebody like Grooveriding I can see them being useful at least. Oh, and Computerbase could very well be the best of the best, but I usually don't bother because, um, it's just too much of a pita to translate everything
 

Grooveriding

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I saw RussianSensation's list earlier and meant to comment on it, but I'll just throw out the sites that I typically use once a new card hits:

Anandtech
TechPowerup
HardwareCanucks

Sometimes I'll throw in [H], though that is very situational for me. For somebody like Grooveriding I can see them being useful at least. Oh, and Computerbase could very well be the best of the best, but I usually don't bother because, um, it's just too much of a pita to translate everything

I really think computerbase is probably the best for being comprehensive and consistent in their methodology and data offered for every review they do.

I really like anand as well because the reviews are impartial without anything muddying the waters.
 

OCGuy

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You know nV has a winner on its hands when people who normally rail against them are posting screenies of them ordering 2.

Kepler is a great chip. I can't wait until we see it at its full potential.
 
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500mm^2 GTX685? If GTX685 has 2304 SPs, 384-bit bus and proper DP performance, that's going to make GTX680 and HD7970 look like toys.

Not exactly that simple, because big K is a compute first and foremost architecture. Assuming that 2304 gk110 sp scale linear to 1536 gk104 SP thats what, ~32% faster (clock for clock)?

It would make it ~60-70% faster than a gtx580, which would fit right in line with the expected increase with a full node shrink.

That is the true upgrade for users already on a gtx580 or that lvl of perf IMO.
 

badb0y

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You know nV has a winner on its hands when people who normally rail against them are posting screenies of them ordering 2.

Kepler is a great chip. I can't wait until we see it at its full potential.

GK110 will be a monster.
 
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You know nV has a winner on its hands when people who normally rail against them are posting screenies of them ordering 2.

Kepler is a great chip. I can't wait until we see it at its full potential.

Indeed they do, it's a great chip.. just too high on the expensive side, like all the 28nm parts so far.
 

Zebo

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Good card. I like it, especially the thermals. I'm skipping this gen likely though...don't game enough to justify upgrading 2x6950s.

Good choice, you're faster. Unless you have micro stutter or noise issues I see no reason to either.
 

DooKey

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Nice job by Nvidia this time around. If it was a bit faster I'd sell off my 7970s and go back green.
 

-Slacker-

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Regarding the TPU overclock test: Can the gtx680 still boost it's clocks form a manual overclock of 1147mhz?
 

Termie

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Impressive results for sure.

AMD certainly shot itself in the foot not only with its pricing, but doubly so with its weak clocks on the 7970. It should have been at least 1GHz, but I assume they were holding out to release a more expensive uber-clocked version. So much for that idea...as far as a marketing win, nvidia's auto-overclocking, even if it limits headroom, makes for a huge win on paper versus the "potential" of the 7970. That wins sales, even if it doesn't win enthusiasts' hearts.

Plain and simple - the 7970 and especially the 7950 were fine products at terrible prices, and Nvidia is capitalizing on that, just as it should have done.

Thank goodness for competition - now if the 680 drops in price to where it was probably intended to fall ($300?), I'm in!
 

Pheran

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Reads reviews. Impressed. Checks wallet. Waits for GTX660.

That's where I am. My 8800GTS 512 is getting pretty long in the tooth and I'd really like to move it to a secondary system, but I'm not spending $500 on a video card.
 

Zebo

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Impressive results for sure.

AMD certainly shot itself in the foot not only with its pricing, but doubly so with its weak clocks on the 7970. It should have been at least 1GHz, but I assume they were holding out to release a more expensive uber-clocked version. So much for that idea...as far as a marketing win, nvidia's auto-overclocking, even if it limits headroom, makes for a huge win on paper versus the "potential" of the 7970. That wins sales, even if it doesn't win enthusiasts' hearts.

Plain and simple - the 7970 and especially the 7950 were fine products at terrible prices, and Nvidia is capitalizing on that, just as it should have done.

Thank goodness for competition - now if the 680 drops in price to where it was probably intended to fall ($300?), I'm in!

Why would it fall to $300 offering relative performance of $600? It's cheap at $500 compared to anything around it. GTX 580 on up.
 
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NO way its going to be $300 anytime soon. It's sold out and we all know how great the yields and production are at TSMC /sarc.

These high prices will be furbar for a long time to come. No point holding out and wait any longer if you intend to upgrade from an older card.
 

Rvenger

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I am worried about the users that are running tri SLI and 4 way SLI. I really hope they are on 2011 or 1366 because regular SB and even IVB will probably kill the scaling in tri SLI.
 

RussianSensation

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I am worried about the users that are running tri SLI and 4 way SLI. I really hope they are on 2011 or 1366 because regular SB and even IVB will probably kill the scaling in tri SLI.

Somehow I doubt guys running $1,500 of GPUs are on Socket 1155. Just a hunch. :biggrin:

Some overclocking results, Xfire and sli of some older cards (I Dont think AMD needs to drop prices). The GTX680 seems to be a one trick pony whereas HD7970 seems to be good at everything (Compute intensive work).

I would imagine people running these are using Quadro cards:



I know a couple guys in the automotive industry running computational fluid dynamics and catia and they aren't using AMD cards.

However, in their review HD6970 beats GTX580 in BF3. Not sure how that's even possible.



Also, almost 2x faster than a GTX580? Seems hard to believe.
 
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skipsneeky2

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Man,my two favorite games BF3 and BC2 and the gtx680 blows pass the 7970 in both games in both the anandtech review and the guru3d one,finally a card that can max out BF3 at stock clocks at 1080p with 4x msaa and not choke.

Would be interesting for them to do a followup article on overclocking performance of the two perhaps both cards at 1200/1600 if the gtx680 can reach that.
 

Termie

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Why would it fall to $300 offering relative performance of $600? It's cheap at $500 compared to anything around it. GTX 580 on up.

NO way its going to be $300 anytime soon. It's sold out and we all know how great the yields and production are at TSMC /sarc.

These high prices will be furbar for a long time to come. No point holding out and wait any longer if you intend to upgrade from an older card.

Oh, I know we won't see $300 anytime soon...I'm just saying that's what I'd personally pay for an upgrade. I do think $500 is a fair price for the performance, but in reality, nVidia probably surprised even itself in how badly it could beat its own flagship with the next-gen midrange.

For example - the GTX460 came out at $230 and was a bit faster than GTX285. In a vacuum that was an amazing deal, but the 480 had of course already been introduced, so it couldn't price it much higher (well, that and the HD5850 problem).

In this case, nVidia didn't have its high-end card to set parameters on pricing, and luckily had performance in spades, so it could drive the price up. If AMD had actually competed in this round on pricing, I think we'd see the GTX680 at $350 or so.
 

ShadowOfMyself

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Bravo, nVidia! You've beat AMD at their own small-die game.

... But they havent, lol

Overall, the 7870 has better perf/size than the 680... The only reason this card is better at it than the 7970 is because of its lacking computing ability

Its a huge step forward for Nvidia though, no doubt...But lets not jump on the bandwagon here

Also gotta lol at all the people who said the 7970 was a failure for being only 40% faster than the 6970, but now that the 680 is even less compared to the 580, its the best card ever

And people still dare to claim this forum is AMD biased? Bahaha

It does make the 79xx series irrelevant though until they drop about 75-100$ though, that much is true
 

-Slacker-

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I wish these reviews would all put a beefy (same %) overclock on the two cards and let them duke it out in their full selection of games, because it's hard to draw a conclusion when the two card's performance is all over the place form website to website. Who am I going to believe, when, for example, this happens:

Crysis2 1920x1200 or 1920x108 with AA

website/hd7970/gtx680

guru 3d 61/63

hexus 54/66.4

techreport 51/48

hardwarecanuks 69/76

computerbase 43/52

TPU 61/63.7

alienbabeltech 51/64




it's even worse with metro 2033. Both cards absolutely slaughter each other in this game depending on the review (and yes, the 7970 wins more than once, both cards do)
 

Jionix

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Supply numbers must be low for this first round.. When only the 680 is launching, and nothing else with it. I wonder how many the respective stores got?
 
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