Overclocking has always worked like that. That's why people turn up their fans to go for maximum clocks. This is nothing new.
Techpowerup shows the 680GTX still outperforming the 7970 when they are both OCed to the max:
bwahaha we have to listen to it for 1 1/2 years because the slower card used 50 less watts, but now that AMD has the slower card that uses more power we can't talk about it because we'd be fanboys if we did? :thumbsup:
1075 is not 7970s max
bwahaha we have to listen to it for 1 1/2 years because the slower card used 50 less watts, but now that AMD has the slower card that uses more power we can't talk about it because we'd be fanboys if we did? :thumbsup:
How does clock for clock matter again?
Nobody cares, just like nobody cares with cpu's.
The only time you do clock for clock is when you want to see the IPC improvements from one design to another, gpu's have totally different designs, so there is zero point in doing a clock for clock comparison.
Instead, let's do a watt vs watt comparison, now 220 TDP is going to require a ton of overclocking on the 680, but I'm sure someone will manage it. It should be interesting to see how superior Nvidia is in this area since it's the only thing people wanted to talk about with GF100. They never wanted to talk about how it was faster, producing 40+ percent overclocks, had GPGPU, nope, none of that mattered back then, so let's continue to ignore it or do we flip flop on forums?
At least the reviewers have stayed consistent, even [H] recommend the 680 over the 7970 and they reviewed a 7970 that did 1300MHz.
bwahaha we have to listen to it for 1 1/2 years because the slower card used 50 less watts, but now that AMD has the slower card that uses more power we can't talk about it because we'd be fanboys if we did? :thumbsup:
7970 is not slower card.bwahaha we have to listen to it for 1 1/2 years because the slower card used 50 less watts, but now that AMD has the slower card that uses more power we can't talk about it because we'd be fanboys if we did? :thumbsup:
It's still there, you're just missing some of the URL:
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx680_review/4
xbitlabs OC comparison:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/picture/?sr...dia-geforce-gtx-680/20_gtx68vshd797oc_big.png
Picture isn't so black and white when comparing max oc to max oc, with the 7970 doing as good or better in many cases. Still for new purchasers the 680 is the king...no question.. I hope there's a silver lining somewhere though because I just dropped ten hundy on 2 of these things.
1075 is not 7970s max
^The 7950 is faster than the 7970 ... hmm ... I must have missed that. I think there has been a lot of pressure on all the reviewers to get the benchmarks out in time, if you consider that they had to compete with slides form tomshardware leaked 2 days early ... we should cut them some slack
Don't get me wrong the GTX 680 is a fantastic card and is undeniably a better buy then what AMD has out right now but I just wanted to point out that 15% is not max OC for most of the 7970s, maybe it was for TPUs card but on average most can OC ~20% or more.
xbitlabs OC comparison:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/picture/?sr...dia-geforce-gtx-680/20_gtx68vshd797oc_big.png
Picture isn't so black and white when comparing max oc to max oc, with the 7970 doing as good or better in many cases. Still for new purchasers the 680 is the king...no question.. I hope there's a silver lining somewhere though because I just dropped ten hundy on 2 of these things.
Didn't you just say a couple of days ago that power doesn't matter?
You seem to be making a big deal about something that doesn't matter ()
Check the metrics of the chart.^The 7950 is faster than the 7970 ... hmm ... I must have missed that. I think there has been a lot of pressure on all the reviewers to get the benchmarks out in time, if you consider that they had to compete with slides form tomshardware leaked 2 days early ... we should cut them some slack
Working through the backlog and I just saw this, excellent post. Wow, those scores really are all over the place. It's to the point that you can gain more from a driver change or simple IQ change than from upgrading your hardware.I wish these reviews would all put a beefy (same %) overclock on the two cards and let them duke it out in their full selection of games, because it's hard to draw a conclusion when the two card's performance is all over the place form website to website. Who am I going to believe, when, for example, this happens:
Crysis2 1920x1200 or 1920x108 with AA
website/hd7970/gtx680
guru 3d 61/63
hexus 54/66.4
techreport 51/48
hardwarecanuks 69/76
computerbase 43/52
TPU 61/63.7
alienbabeltech 51/64
it's even worse with metro 2033. Both cards absolutely slaughter each other in this game depending on the review (and yes, the 7970 wins more than once, both cards do)
Sure 925MHz against 1.05-1.1GHz. 680 is what 10% faster with 15% higher clocks?I would suggest you learn to read?
Sure 925MHz against 1.05-1.1GHz. 680 is what 10% faster with 15% higher clocks?