OFFICIAL KEPLER "GTX680" Reviews

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SirPauly

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As predicted, they all bashed AMD for their pricing, but when Nvidia provided the same lackluster performance improvement over their 580, it's suddenly TAKE MY MONEY NAO.

Imho,

We can actually agree -- even though you're trying to mock

Both the GTX 680 and HD 7970 offer evolutionary and incremental performance considering the move from 40nm to 28nm is substantial and significant.

However, considering nVidia usually charges a premium for similar performance; it was odd to see them offer more performance for less money.
 
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BallaTheFeared

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No, if it doesn't require you to upgrade your circuit breaker, its not high end.

Obviously.

Nvidia got a lot of perf/watt out of GK104 by cutting out the GPGPU. They still need a card to replace fermi in HPC, GK104 is slower than GF110 in that regard.
 
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SirPauly

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Ryan the GPU reviewer at Anand's is right on target:

On the GTX 680:

Looking at the bigger picture, I think ultimately we still haven’t moved very far on the price/performance curve compared to where we’ve gone in past generations, and on that basis this is one of the smaller generational jumps we've seen for a GTX x80 product

That is the nit-pick of 28nm for both the GTX 680 and HD 7970 based on they're more-so evolutionary and incremental.

I also feel that both the GTX 680 and HD 7970 are more-so performance parts than enthusiast parts -- and if they were around 349-399 -- there wouldn't be much to nit-pick. Both the HD 7970 and GTX 680 are nice choices but the performance/value stands out like a soar thumb to me when compared to history.
 

chimaxi83

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Nvidia got a lot of perf/watt out of GK104 by cutting out the GPGPU. They still need a card to replace fermi in HPC, GK104 is slower than GF110 in that regard.

I was going to ask wtf you were trying to say with the graph you posted, but you edited, so meh.

Power users should wait for BigK :whiste:

"Power user" typically denotes someone who wants the latest and greatest at product release... not people who buy, for example, mid range year old parts :whiste:
 

BallaTheFeared

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"Power user" typically denotes someone who wants the latest and greatest at product release... not people who buy, for example, mid range year old parts :whiste:

Again with the personal attack... lol

Your setup is slower than mine "power user".

I would call someone a power user who actually knows what they're doing and increases performance well past what stock provided them regardless of what they paid for the product.

You can't do that with a 6+6 voltage limited 680.
 

blackened23

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Again with the personal attack... lol

Your setup is slower than mine "power user".

I would call someone a power user who actually knows what they're doing and increases performance well past what stock provided them regardless of what they paid for the product.

You can't do that with a 6+6 voltage limited 680.

Oh boy, more talk of the GTX 470's that thought they could.
 
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thilanliyan

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As predicted, they all bashed AMD for their pricing, but when Nvidia provided the same lackluster performance improvement over their 580, it's suddenly TAKE MY MONEY NAO.

Yep I'm still waiting for all the backlash for nV pricing their "midrange" card at $500...

*crickets*

 

BallaTheFeared

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Some power users like myself hate multigpu, like myself. I can't stand microstutter.


Yeah that's is a pretty clear disadvantage for AMD right now, they dropped MS correction for scaling...

Seems to work for them at times though as people like to quote fps charts but miss the part where SLI provides a smoother experience.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Balla has Tri 470s doesn't he? Tri 470s > Single 680

No just highly clocked SLI, which he knows is faster than stock 580 SLI and the 680 is only 36% faster than a single 580.

He's fully aware that they're faster, he just like to troll for infractions.

You have more infractions than he does. You now also have more vacations than he does
-ViRGE
 
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BoFox

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There is no wall from 2x6pin connectors. Just because they are spec'd @ 75W in no way prevents them from passing more power.

Now, improving the power stages, which includes the connectors, can, and does, help O/C'ing. Generally though it's not much except in extreme cases, LN2, for example. Having a 6+8 or 2x8 pin connectors is not going to open up some magical O/C'ing window.

Right, this was assuming that you guys already knew this. However, 8-pin connectors do allow for cleaner power (with better grounding). It's just that the maximum allowed voltage on current GTX 680 cards are still fairly low. They do not even reach the maximum potential of air-cooling when it comes to power usage and dissipation.
 

Lepton87

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When I was buying my graphic cards I also tested 3x570 3way-SLI and it was worse in every way than my current setup. Certainly didn't provide any smoother game-play.
 

BoFox

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Biggest factor is locked voltage, really. I'm not sure why [H] review puts the 680 as OC/OV, you can't volt this thing yourself lol.

That TF3 680 is the same bs, locked voltage. Windforce 680, same thing. Most promising one so far looks to be the Zotac Extreme Edition, default voltage of that is around 1.212V which is higher than the current max on the reference cards.

Are you using your GTX 680 yet?

In addition to [H]'s review, ABT also shows the same thing:

where the voltage slider can be adjusted to 1.15v. The reviewers are saying that it helps to achieve a higher OC.. but simply adjusting the power target to 132% might as well do the same thing anyways (not exactly sure on that yet)..

Hey Keysplayr,
AlienBabelTech just did perhaps the most comprehensive OC GTX 680 vs OC HD 7970 review on the internet!
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=29157

Check out the wattages!!

Preview (I did the calculations in Excel for Apoppin):
The overall difference is 3.8% in favor of OC'ed GTX 680 over OC'ed HD 7970 (down from 6.0% for stock vs stock).

Excluding Wolfenstein (such an outlier that's not really representative of OpenGL games anyways) increases the overall difference to 7.1%.
 
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