OFFICIAL KEPLER "GTX680" Reviews

[Lepton87]

Preview (I did the calculations in Excel for Apoppin):
The overall difference is 3.8% in favor of OC'ed GTX 680 over OC'ed HD 7970 (down from 6.0% for stock vs stock).

Excluding Wolfenstein (such an outlier that's not really representative of OpenGL games anyways) increases the overall difference to 7.1%.

Did you do those calculations at 2560?

 

[MrK6]

Did you do those calculations at 2560?

Who cares, they're from apoppin.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Looks like z77+kepler = win

Would be really interesting to see what would happen in games that are cpu limited in SLI.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4...h_asrock_z77_and_intel_ivy_bridge/index1.html

Edit: Actually it might even be more interesting to see what happens when you put a couple Fermis on there since Fermi devours cpu clock speed like a Mhz hungry monster... Kepler is supposed to be much better in that area.

I think I'll send this Maximus IV back and RMA my i5-2500k for a NIB item to sell. I can go a month without a desktop *crosses fingers*

 

[MrK6]

Yep, real win .

Either the software needs work or tweaktown hasn't a clue again (or maybe both).

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Since it's an unreleased product on an unreleased platform I'm going to go with "needs work still".

The nice thing about it is the fact that is basically free, as it comes with the z77 chipset. So you could disable it in games with issues while they fix them and still enjoy the boost in games were the software is doing well.

Even when it isn't working properly you can just disable it and beat the 7970, so I'd call that a win for sure.

 

[Grooveriding]

I think I'll send this Maximus IV back and RMA my i5-2500k for a NIB item to sell. I can go a month without a desktop *crosses fingers*

OCed 2500K = RMA fraud. Not really surprised though.

 

[MrK6]

OCed 2500K = RMA fraud. Not really surprised though.

Yeah, reported. We shouldn't condone that kind of behavior on the forums.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

OCed 2500K = RMA fraud. Not really surprised though.

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

:awe:

Trolls will be trolls though.

 

[Grooveriding]

...Intel won't know if you overclocked/volted, so long as your chip still works I wouldn't have a problem sending it in...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32917837&postcount=109

Actually just replied to that one because I remember reading this reply to me in a thread in CPU and thinking.. nice. Just putting it out there..:ninja:

 

[BoFox]

Did you do those calculations at 2560?

Yes, for both 1920 and 2560 (for all 46 benches), put together for an overall average.

Whenever HD 7970 is faster, I divide the 7970's framerate by 680's fps (and then put a "minus" sign next to the percentage). That way, adding all of the differences together is not skewed, like if HD 7970 is 2x as fast as GTX 680 in Wolfenstein, then it's 200/100 = "-100%", rather than 100/200 = "-50%". This ensures that there are no "bias" tricks going on, in that the faster card is always given the upper percentage, because if GTX 680 is 2x as fast in some games, it's "+100%", not "+50%" for these games.

The sum total of all the percentages (with the negative percentages making the sum smaller) is then divided by the number of samples for the average overall percentage.

Who cares, they're from apoppin.

Why? Are you able to find any flaws with any of his 46 benchmark scores? If there's any money in your mouth, let's see..
One guy put it real well:

IMHO faking is really difficult in hardware review business.People will find the truth eventually and once everybody understands that a review site is not worth trusting they will abandon it eventually.Trust is a difficult thing to build but very easy to break.I believe shill sites can't really prosper unless they wanna jeopardize their integrity.

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24550&view=unread#p62329

 

[BallaTheFeared]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32917837&postcount=109

Actually just replied to that one because I remember reading this reply to me in a thread in CPU and thinking.. nice. Just putting it out there..:ninja:

lol that's nice, take what I said out of context. You have the PTPP from Intel, so keep that in mind with what I said.

True. I actually had an RMA approved from Intel for an exchange for C2 stepping, but I'm not taking it because I've voided the warranty with the massive voltage OCing I've done on this chip.

I do have the PTPP though, so I guess I can just keep giving it more voltage to maintain the clock I want and if it dies, I can RMA it.

I didn't say kill the chip on purpose as per your plan, I said send it back since you are still covered under the warranty with PTPP as overvolting didn't void anything.

Maybe if you stopped spinning for a minute you'd have a C2 instead of not having VT-d.

 

[Grooveriding]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32969178&postcount=57 :ninja:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Nice it only cost you $121 instead of $6, well played.

 

[Grooveriding]

Nice it only cost you $121 instead of $6, well played.

That and not committing RMA fraud.....

The plan is only for a dead chip, not random wants/needs. Besides it doesn't take effect until a month after purchase so would not of been legitimate either way. I assume this is so someone can't forgo buying it, just to kill their chip, and then decide to buy one on the same day they killed it...

Of course you should know this as you've already bought one....

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I can see where this is going...

It's not going to stop spinning until you just come out and say how rich you are and how the loss of money wasn't important.

1) We're not 4Chan

2) What does this have to do with Kepler?

3) We're not 4Chan

-ViRGE

 

[blackened23]

Who cares, they're from apoppin.

This. He's admitted to getting paid by nvidia and gets free hardware from them, probably from his favorite sidekick who will remain unnamed, who works for nvidia.

Rationalize all you want but when there's 10 websites showing specifically that some games are faster, consistently on the 7970 yet somehow this wacko gets different results, yeah. Not to mention he badmouths AMD constantly on his board, and threw out allegations about AMD bribing gabe newell to badmouth Nvidia. ROFL. Sorry, the first rule of being a hardware website is being objective. Not badmouthing a company constantly on a forum. And this I suppose is where someone will throw out that HardOCP is AMD biased hence their max OC results. Last I heard, Brent Justice prefers nvidia. The difference here is that he's objective, doesn't badmouth AMD constantly on their forum, and doesn't throw out amazingly hilarious accusations such as: AMD bribed Gabe Newell, AMD bribed steam to manipulate numbers, etc. Oh yeah. Anyone that doesn't bask in the glory of nvidia and doesn't praise them 24/7 is a shill

Yes, the GTX 680 is an awesome card, faster at stock than the 7970. It is also a much better buy than the 7970, easily. But if he's being deceptive, he's going to be called out.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

He's using different settings than some of those sites though, like FXAA instead of MLAA in deus

 

[blackened23]

He's using different settings than some of those sites though, like FXAA instead of MLAA in deus

Oh yeah. I forgot. Using FXAA instead of MLAA, when they're functionally the same thing (fast cheap AA) suddenly makes your performance drop by 70 frames per second :thumbsup:

 

[Grooveriding]

doesn't throw out amazingly hilarious accusations such as: AMD bribed Gabe Newell, AMD bribed steam to manipulate numbers, etc. Oh yeah. Anyone that doesn't bask in the glory of nvidia and doesn't praise them 24/7 is a shill

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I'm trying to figure out where you're coming from, but I'm having a hard time... 70 FPS?

Hard got 74.9 @ 1600p with a lightning, he got 75 fps with 1100Mhz on his 7970...

Where is the missing 70 fps you're talking about?

 

[Grooveriding]

I can see where this is going...

It's not going to stop spinning until you just come out and say how rich you are and how the loss of money wasn't important.

Yeah, that is where this was all supposed to head......

Well I guess I should just allow this exit strategy to work out, the goalposts are clear out of the stadium and moved to the next town at this point.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

What goal posts? I never set any.

 

[SolMiester]

Finding amusement in the hypocrisy of others is not trolling.
Attempting to bait people to be hypocritical just to laugh at them is.

+1

 

[Keysplayr]

There really aren't any goalposts this round. All pretty cut and dry.

 

[SolMiester]

So your view has changed on this value you trumpeted ad nauseaum in this forum now that nvidia has released their card with the worst perf/$ improvement in their flagship ever ?

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Those are the tip of the iceberg, probably 20 more posts like that from you.

vs

?

Really is very bad form for you to have done such a flip flop. No consistency and your opinion on the exact same metric going polar opposite shows some clear bias. :thumbsdown:

Groove, the 680 might have the worst flagship improvement over last generation but at least they didn't charge extra for it like AMD did......480,580,680 all same price....what were the release prices on the 5870,6970 & 7970...