**OFFICIAL** Kerry/Bush Debate Thread: 2nd Debate to be 'Town-Hall' Style

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Did they take down the poll already?

No. I just voted (Cheney).

 

[gutharius]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Did they take down the poll already?

No. I just voted (Cheney).

As shocking as this may sound coming from a confessed liberal, I have to agree I think Cheney did better on being armed with facts and information. It was kinda surreal watching this debate because it seemed like i was watching the first presidential debate with edwards as bush and cheney as kerry. I mean this strictly in the debating styles. Edwards, IMO, kept repeating the same thing over and over and did not directly address Cheney's accusations about his senate attendance or voting record, He did not even try to defend Kerry from these accusations. He simply ignored them and kept repeating his mantra, over, and over again. However I did notice how cheney talked around the issues the bush administration was weak on instead of directly saying this is what we did. But I of all people can understand why. So you need not start a splinter topic just to address this.

 

[kajames]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
And Bush can tell about how dangerous being a jet jockey was like the time he almost killed himself trying to land his jet when he was still stoned.

esh Bush still doing a "dupe-a-dupe"?:Q:beer:

 

[kajames]

Originally posted by: tallest1
Holy crap, why will Bush NOT mention Bin Laden????

...because he can't find him...! Bush thought Osama was in afghanistan...Bush thought he's probably in Iraq? Or Iran?...just like opening all the f%&$&$# door to see if he's really there...:frown::beer::roll::laugh:

 

[kajames]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: ndee
"He forgot Poland."

Whatta tard.

lol, yea dont forget Poland..


Bush needs to stop banging on the podium!

That's probably the first thing Bush did whenever he walked into a bar.

Had Kerry been drinking a beer on stage, Bush would have ripped his podium to shreds.

...banging on the podium was stressed during his rehearsals before the debate.."..aah Mr President, let's do it one more time, this time don't forget the fist on the podium and time it correctly will ya!":beer:

 

[kajames]

Originally posted by: katka
Kerry kicked butt tonight!! He was articulate and to the point. His arguments were truthful, well organized, and logically sound in ALL respects. Bush did NOT win the last election and he won't win this one.

GO Kerry GO. I am a republican, but I despise lies and incompetance. Bush has got to go!

my man my man :beer::thumbsup::wine:

 

[DoubleL]

kajames did you need to post 4 times on the same thing on the same day and by the way when I voted on who won the VP debate, Like it matters it was Cheney 73% to Edwards 27%

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: BBond

Kerry looks like a GIANT!

You really need to get that optical prescription checked.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
Any Bush supporters here? This thread is pretty one sided.

I stop in occasionally, (too slow to work the thread in real time) but you really can't say anything to Dims. They have all of that superstitious paranoia going and it makes their brain non-functional. Remember, they worshipped Clinton! Besides, all of this is their desperate response to seeing Edwards so scared that he was constantly trying to keep his mouth moistened enough to keep talking. I wonder what he is hiding that makes him that nervous?

 

[imported_Condor]

OOPS! How did I get on the wrong thread? I guess we should read those headings.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
Any Bush supporters here? This thread is pretty one sided.

I stop in occasionally, (too slow to work the thread in real time) but you really can't say anything to Dims. They have all of that superstitious paranoia going and it makes their brain non-functional. Remember, they worshipped Clinton! Besides, all of this is their desperate response to seeing Edwards so scared that he was constantly trying to keep his mouth moistened enough to keep talking. I wonder what he is hiding that makes him that nervous?

Scared? Lmao, so I guess Bush must've been hiding a lot. Or did you forget to think that he was also sucking down water? He even ran out of water towards the end. But of course the same won't apply to him. :/

 

[DealMonkey]

How do you guys think the town-hall format of Friday's debate will impact both Bush & Kerry?

Bush, Kerry Face Town-Hall Style Debate

WASHINGTON ? President Bush and Sen. John Kerry (search) talk often about the needs and ambitions of ordinary people, but neither encounters many along a campaign trail defined by the exquisitely stage-managed photo op and fortified by Secret Service (search) agents.

Despite almost daily campaign events styled as "town hall" sessions with voters, such as the candidates held Monday, neither the Republican incumbent nor the Democratic challenger has much recent experience with the relatively unscripted town-hall format of their next debate on Friday.

What the campaigns call town-hall events, or informal, shirt-sleeve bull sessions, are really almost as staged as traditional speeches or whoop-and-holler rallies.

[...]

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
How do you guys think the town-hall format of Friday's debate will impact both Bush & Kerry?

Bush, Kerry Face Town-Hall Style Debate

WASHINGTON ? President Bush and Sen. John Kerry (search) talk often about the needs and ambitions of ordinary people, but neither encounters many along a campaign trail defined by the exquisitely stage-managed photo op and fortified by Secret Service (search) agents.

Despite almost daily campaign events styled as "town hall" sessions with voters, such as the candidates held Monday, neither the Republican incumbent nor the Democratic challenger has much recent experience with the relatively unscripted town-hall format of their next debate on Friday.

What the campaigns call town-hall events, or informal, shirt-sleeve bull sessions, are really almost as staged as traditional speeches or whoop-and-holler rallies.

[...]

I don't agree that with that article when it says, "neither the Republican incumbent nor the Democratic challenger has much recent experience with the relatively unscripted town-hall format of their next debate on Friday." Aren't the questions going to be reviewed by both campaigns anyway? All of the questions Kerry takes on the campaign are unscripted and to even prove that he has answered protesters questions before and not have shunned them out of the rally or meeting. On the other hand we all know about the loyalty oaths that Bush supporters have had to sign to enter those meetings and absolutely every dissenter has been kicked out.

To the debate on Friday I think the format will be more helpful to Bush because he should feel a bit more comfortable with the audience. It still doesn't possess a threat to Kerry though. The majority agrees that he will do better with the Economy and Jobs and he will show that in the debate. I sincerely think that while Bush will be more comfortable and will not have a lack-luster performance like last Thursday he still will be far under Kerry's performance. Kerry's charm will be on high alert in this debate and he will express it.

Anyone have any knowledge if they Commision finally decided to have soft-Bush supporters and soft-Kerry supporters or just all undecided's?

 

[CaptnKirk]

My hope is that after the third debate, there will be a realization that
their differences will be so pronounced that whey will agree to a
'Saloon' style meeting held in Arizona.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
My hope is that after the third debate, there will be a realization that
their differences will be so pronounced that whey will agree to a
'Saloon' style meeting held in Arizona.

Ha, I'd love to see both of them lose, then maybe we could get some decent candidates.

 

[Infohawk]

Next debate will the media be able to clean up the elephant droppings that Bush lays down or are more Cheney-style lies going to slip throught the cracks?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Here's a great story about how the debates have been sanitized & rendered virtually useless: PBS Now, Rigging the Debates Sorry it's Real Player.

Nader & Badnarik should have been included

:frown:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
How do you guys think the town-hall format of Friday's debate will impact both Bush & Kerry?

Bush, Kerry Face Town-Hall Style Debate

WASHINGTON ? President Bush and Sen. John Kerry (search) talk often about the needs and ambitions of ordinary people, but neither encounters many along a campaign trail defined by the exquisitely stage-managed photo op and fortified by Secret Service (search) agents.

Despite almost daily campaign events styled as "town hall" sessions with voters, such as the candidates held Monday, neither the Republican incumbent nor the Democratic challenger has much recent experience with the relatively unscripted town-hall format of their next debate on Friday.

What the campaigns call town-hall events, or informal, shirt-sleeve bull sessions, are really almost as staged as traditional speeches or whoop-and-holler rallies.

[...]

Considering it was originally to have been a crowd of 4,000 people and now we're down to a crowd of up to 150 (hand-picked by the Gallup organization)? It's a joke. Kerry's campaign gave in too quickly to the Bush campaign's demands. I blame McAuliffe.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: conjur
Considering it was originally to have been a crowd of 4,000 people and now we're down to a crowd of up to 150 (hand-picked by the Gallup organization)? It's a joke. Kerry's campaign gave in too quickly to the Bush campaign's demands. I blame McAuliffe.

I know, the dems capitulate so quickly on these debate rules, Bush must think he's a rock star or something.

"I said GREEN M&amp;Ms in my dressing room BEEETATCH!!" <trashes backstage area>

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

"I said GREEN M&amp;Ms in my dressing room BEEETATCH!!" <trashes backstage area>

<---spits coffee on keyboard

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur

Considering it was originally to have been a crowd of 4,000 people and now we're down to a crowd of up to 150 (hand-picked by the Gallup organization)? It's a joke. Kerry's campaign gave in too quickly to the Bush campaign's demands. I blame McAuliffe.

Link showing bush's team made demands....

 

[CycloWizard]

Campus is a circus. Media vans everywhere. I went to pick up my credentials for the debate and the media area is like a who's who of US journalists. Just about everything is shut down tomorrow, and all the buildings are locked at noon. Lots of cops walking around. Very different from how campus has been.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Campus is a circus. Media vans everywhere. I went to pick up my credentials for the debate and the media area is like a who's who of US journalists. Just about everything is shut down tomorrow, and all the buildings are locked at noon. Lots of cops walking around. Very different from how campus has been.

You're not actually trying to pass yourself off as an "undecided" voter, are you? I assume you'll be the guy in the audience flipping off Kerry the entire time?

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Campus is a circus. Media vans everywhere. I went to pick up my credentials for the debate and the media area is like a who's who of US journalists. Just about everything is shut down tomorrow, and all the buildings are locked at noon. Lots of cops walking around. Very different from how campus has been.

You're not actually trying to pass yourself off as an "undecided" voter, are you? I assume you'll be the guy in the audience flipping off Kerry the entire time?

Thanks for demonstrating your troll nature in the most obvious of ways. I release you - feel free to troll after someone else for a change.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

You have a sickness. All your cookie handouts are equivalent to a crapflood. Stay away from the emoticons.