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Has anyone else noticed when the Cavs picked up guys like Mo Williams, D West, Shaq and Antawon Jamison, everyone thought the Cavs would the the favorites to win it all, he has the guys that could help him now, pieces that would compliment his skills. But as soon as he gets bounced from the playoffs, everyone goes off on how his teammates weren't good enough, he needs a supporting cast.

This is true.
 

Miramonti

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i think it's durant's year.
esp now that the Queen has to share the ball with Wade.

He absolutely has a chance if he improves his defense and 3pt shooting.


As for Lebron, it's fair to say he (and others) underestimated how pissed on and completely humiliated Cleveland would feel about his announcement on nat'l tv. The season can't begin soon enough for him now.
 

HopJokey

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He absolutely has a chance if he improves his defense and 3pt shooting.


As for Lebron, it's fair to say he (and others) underestimated how pissed on and completely humiliated Cleveland would feel about his announcement on nat'l tv. The season can't begin soon enough for him now.

Yep, look at his face when ESPN showed him footage of Clevelanders burning his jersey.

One more thing I wanted to add: this is going to be a very, very interesting NBA season to say the least.
 

endlessmike

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As for Lebron, it's fair to say he (and others) underestimated how pissed on and completely humiliated Cleveland would feel about his announcement on nat'l tv. The season can't begin soon enough for him now.

To assume that your hometown, team, and fans wouldn't be upset with the way this announcement was handled, you'd have to be a pretty spoiled, egotistical, self-important son of a crackwhore.

Oh, wait...
 

KeithTalent

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Such a douchebag and it really sucks he went to such a crappy basketball town.

KT
 

Ika

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I feel sorry for the Nets.

Why? i don't recall hearing about them making any big moves to pick up big-name players. If LBJ went to the nets, it'd be a lot like his going to cleveland 7 years ago... he obviously doesn't want to work that hard again to take his team to the playoffs singlehandedly
 

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Why? i don't recall hearing about them making any big moves to pick up big-name players. If LBJ went to the nets, it'd be a lot like his going to cleveland 7 years ago... he obviously doesn't want to work that hard again to take his team to the playoffs singlehandedly

New Jersey and New York were two teams that purposely tanked their last few seasons making moves to set them up for payroll space for Lebron. Now they have no Lebron, and the FA's worth a hoot are mostly spoken for. At least the Knicks picked up Amare...although that remains arguable if he was a better/worse/even trade for losing Lee.
 

Josh

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New Jersey and New York were two teams that purposely tanked their last few seasons making moves to set them up for payroll space for Lebron. Now they have no Lebron, and the FA's worth a hoot are mostly spoken for. At least the Knicks picked up Amare...although that remains arguable if he was a better/worse/even trade for losing Lee.

Nets fan here and lol @ Nets picking up Travis Outlaw. Not so sure about Mikhail's promise to win a championship within a few years.

We fucked ourselves bad. We're gonna have the best arena in the league and the worst team.
 

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Has anyone else noticed when the Cavs picked up guys like Mo Williams, D West, Shaq and Antawon Jamison, everyone thought the Cavs would the the favorites to win it all, he has the guys that could help him now, pieces that would compliment his skills. But as soon as he gets bounced from the playoffs, everyone goes off on how his teammates weren't good enough, he needs a supporting cast.

:thumbsup:
 

purbeast0

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Yep, look at his face when ESPN showed him footage of Clevelanders burning his jersey.

One more thing I wanted to add: this is going to be a very, very interesting NBA season to say the least.

i seriously would have LOL'ed if i were him and said 'well i already have his money so HA'

i really dont think he gives a shit about his fanbase in cleveland. he is going to have a MUCH larger fanbase in miami.
 

purbeast0

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Amusing how this thread may be well on its way to surpass the Lost finale thread in replies.

and just like the LOST final thread most people in this thread hate the topic at hand.

probably more here though.

it's like a rap thread on ATOT.
 

Miramonti

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To assume that your hometown, team, and fans wouldn't be upset with the way this announcement was handled, you'd have to be a pretty spoiled, egotistical, self-important son of a crackwhore.

Oh, wait...

Over the long run, the masses will say 'fvck Cleveland, get over it.' Seriously, its Cleveland and not many out-of-staters are going to put the city over Lebron's freakish athleticism, talent, and on-camera charisma. That's probably part of why they feel so humiliated.

James wanted to strengthen and extend his 'brand' by going national, and it probably worked based on the huge ratings it got. Unfortunately it came at what Cleveland fans feel is 'at their expense.' No doubt in my mind that was a miscalculation but no way in hail is it going to be a fatal pr move for James.

The Heat are now going to be treated like rock stars in each away-game they have (like the Jordan-Pippen-Rodman tour), outside of Ohio of course, and it will make them all a helluva lot more money thru lucrative sponsorships.

And when they win a championship, which I honestly believe that they will, the new 'big-3' will gain even more respect among peers and fans worldwide. What happened last night will eventually become another dig against Cleveland's iniquities at best and an infrequently used parody against James at worst.

After all, this is America...all athletes need to do for respect and/or redemption is to win, and I think he's in a pretty good position to do that right now.
 
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HendrixFan

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Dude your whole post is full of selective facts and loses serious credibility in the fact that the Cleavland Cavaliers led the entire NBA in wins two years straight with 66 and 61 wins. So obviously all your who did he have around him is dumb. Couple with facts, not fluff, the Cavs this year had 2-1 lead over the Celtics and Lebron shot 33% over the next several games and they lost. And last year against Orlando he didn't play well in the last few games of that series either.

If he had been Jordan, Olajuwon, Shaq, Duncan great to name a few he would have won a championship. You don't lead the league in wins two years in a row with a bad team, bad ownership, and bad coach. Lebron didn't get it done. Notice I just talked about the last two years. Also this slop around him in 2006-2007 were good enough to help him play in the NBA finals. I don't knock the guy for wanting to win, but to say the Cavs weren't getting it done is just not the facts, Lebron didn't get it done.

They are important facts that weigh into his decision and determine whether or not he could win a championship in Cleveland. Am I supposed to bring up facts that have no relevance to the discussion at hand? I selected the important facts that explain how the front office and coaching let him down, and how and why any losses can't be heaped on Lebron. Yes the Cavs won tons of games, and it would be foolish to act like it was due to anything other than Lebron. He accounted for 48% of the team's points and carried them while everyone else went through injuries. He was the constant. Matched up against the Celtics, the Cavs had a mismatch (even without Amare) that they could have exploited. Mike Brown choked and the team suffered for it. He was scared to put the right (younger) players on the floor and spread things out.

Against Orlando last year he scored 49,35,41,44,37, and 25! He didn't play well? What is "well"? In the losses to Orlando he put up:

49, 8 and 6
41, 9 and 7
44, 7 and 12
25, 7 and 7

If any other player in the league put up those numbers during a series, muchless during the losses they would (rightfully) be touted as the next big thing.

Those numbers are facts and show he got it done. It wasn't his lack of performance that held the team back.

Who in this series of players was great and/or worth their salary?

1 Ben Wallace $14,500,000
2 LeBron James $14,410,581
3 Wally Szczerbiak $13,775,000
4 Zydrunas Ilgauskas $10,841,615
5 Mo Williams $8,353,000
6 Eric Snow $7,312,500

How about these guys?

1 Shaquille O'Neal $20,000,000
2 LeBron James $15,779,912
3 Antawn Jamison $11,641,095
4 Mo Williams $8,860,000
5 Anderson Varejao $6,300,000
6 Delonte West $4,254,250

Just what kind of numbers would Lebron have to put up to satisfy you? Why should he have to be the only player out of the ones you mentioned to win a championship without a hall of famer next to him or at least an all star or two?
 

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:thumbsup:

Like I said earlier, many of them disappeared in the playoffs. And their coach couldn't manage matchups if Doc Rivers whiteboarded it for him.

It ain't all on Lebron. It was a collapse at all levels of the organization and very few could claim innocence.
 

Ika

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i seriously would have LOL'ed if i were him and said 'well i already have his money so HA'

i really dont think he gives a shit about his fanbase in cleveland. he is going to have a MUCH larger fanbase in miami.

that may or may not be true, but the guy fscking LIVES an hour away from cleveland. He's going to spend half the year in a place where the entire population will probably hate him for at least the next few years. I honestly wouldn't be all that surprised if someone set his house on fire or took a shot at him (okay, i would, but still).

I don't particularly blame him for going to Miami to play with Wade and Bosh, but the way he went about it was a giant clusterfsck. at the very least I think he should've said something that would've led cleveland fans to believe he wasn't gonna come back.
 

zinfamous

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all you haters just mad no one offered you ~$30mil (x3) to move to a better town and do what you love.

 

a123456

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I think people are forgetting how forgiving the public is with these types of things. Yeah, it's a little tacky that he ripped Cleveland with the 1 hour deal, but better to get it done now than be a Malone or KG. Star players move teams all the time, maybe not as high-profile, but they do.

Yeah, he might have quit on his team, but Kobe quit on his team multiple times, threw a bunch of hissy fits before they finally got Gasol, demanded a trade, etc. Kobe also was a #2 to Shaq for 3 rings and then finally got his own rings and now people are starting to compare Kobe to Magic, etc.

I think that if (big if, obviously) Lebron becomes the new point forward for the Heat, and they win a few rings and he averages about a triple double, people will start to compare him to Magic, which isn't the worst thing in the world. No one is ever going to top Jordan. Yeah, Magic didn't bolt teams because he had Kareem, but if you ask almost any superstar with no rings if they would have bolted teams in their prime looking back, they would have answered yes. The lone exception, although it's too early to know his later reaction, is Joe Mauer.
 

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i really dont think he gives a shit about his fanbase in cleveland. he is going to have a MUCH larger fanbase in miami.

It'll make for an interesting situation. You'll have your traditional/diehard fans. Then you bring in the Boston-like....err bandwagon fans hopping onboard. But then from a TV audience standpoint you're going to get the haters tuning in just hoping to see them lose. Doesn't matter who they are playing, they'll watch to ridicule every mistake that the Heat make.
 
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