**Official Left 4 Dead thread**

[videogames101]

Expert seems like a joke after you discover the magic of melee, no dmg, on expert, entire demo run, FTW

 

[Praxis1452]

sounds like it needs to be harder.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: videogames101
Expert seems like a joke after you discover the magic of melee, no dmg, on expert, entire demo run, FTW

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
sounds like it needs to be harder.

cl_drawhud 0

Pick your favorite gun, enter that command, and see if you can still make it. No more crosshair, health bar, ammo count. For some reason it still draws your squadmate's health bars though.

And the command for changing up the zombie limits is z_common_limit.

 

[ja1484]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so the mcdonald's thing only applies to certain games? or just games you guys don't like? lol

no, but how can you not like Half-Life 2?


like, are you a freak?

because it's a mediocre fps...

Do you not appreciate the story, character devlopment, action, puzzles, cleverness, music, excellent control scheme, and plain fun, and just focus on the limited # of weapons or something?

He's totally non-conformist. Aren't you amazed at how cool that is? I'm not.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
sounds like it needs to be harder.

Thats what she said!

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: videogames101
Expert seems like a joke after you discover the magic of melee, no dmg, on expert, entire demo run, FTW

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
sounds like it needs to be harder.

cl_drawhud 0

Pick your favorite gun, enter that command, and see if you can still make it. No more crosshair, health bar, ammo count. For some reason it still draws your squadmate's health bars though.

And the command for changing up the zombie limits is z_common_limit.

Melee doesn't need a crosshair to destroy zombies, it's just too powerful of an attack...

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: videogames101
Expert seems like a joke after you discover the magic of melee, no dmg, on expert, entire demo run, FTW

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
sounds like it needs to be harder.

cl_drawhud 0

Pick your favorite gun, enter that command, and see if you can still make it. No more crosshair, health bar, ammo count. For some reason it still draws your squadmate's health bars though.

And the command for changing up the zombie limits is z_common_limit.

Melee doesn't need a crosshair to destroy zombies, it's just too powerful of an attack...

Meh, I've seen my team get destroyed even while swinging away.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: videogames101
Expert seems like a joke after you discover the magic of melee, no dmg, on expert, entire demo run, FTW

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
sounds like it needs to be harder.

cl_drawhud 0

Pick your favorite gun, enter that command, and see if you can still make it. No more crosshair, health bar, ammo count. For some reason it still draws your squadmate's health bars though.

And the command for changing up the zombie limits is z_common_limit.

Melee doesn't need a crosshair to destroy zombies, it's just too powerful of an attack...

Meh, I've seen my team get destroyed even while swinging away.

I have found, however,
director_panic_forever 1
force_director_panic

is full of win

 

[Czar]

director_panic_forever 1
force_director_panic

endless stream of zombies?

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Originally posted by: Oakenfold

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Then the second level was just as easy

IF ANYONE WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME, PLAY INFECTED, WHATEVER... STEAM ID: TridenTBoy I have my own dedicated server, that we can join woot-woot.

Normal is just for the console kidz.


Did you try expert? You really haven't played until you do it on expert..

This is true, I spent about 2 hours playing on expert yesterday and even though all 4 players were experienced, we only beat the demo a couple of times. The director made things extra tough near the end by throwing in a tank or two. Aside from running back and hiding in the air ducts, I have yet to figure out a consistent way to bring one of them down.

 

[imported_Imp]

So from what I gather, this is a 4 player coop game against zombies comparable to the 'survivor' mode in Aliens vs Predator 2 multiplayer. Sounds cool...

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: videogames101
Expert seems like a joke after you discover the magic of melee, no dmg, on expert, entire demo run, FTW

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
sounds like it needs to be harder.

cl_drawhud 0

Pick your favorite gun, enter that command, and see if you can still make it. No more crosshair, health bar, ammo count. For some reason it still draws your squadmate's health bars though.

And the command for changing up the zombie limits is z_common_limit.

Melee doesn't need a crosshair to destroy zombies, it's just too powerful of an attack...

Meh, I've seen my team get destroyed even while swinging away.

Yeah me too, but yesterday i watched these two english guys and one of them ran right to the end of the level, apparently you can "outrun the director" he said which avoids boss zombie spawns and horde spawns and he melee's zombies most of the way and probably would have beaten the end horde solo if it wasent for the smoker. He even angered the witch a little!! She looked up and growled but i guess he got away in time because she started crying again. Melee may well be too powerful an attack, all you need to do is find a corner and you wont get hit or surrounded it seems.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: soxfan

Originally posted by: Oakenfold

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Then the second level was just as easy

IF ANYONE WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME, PLAY INFECTED, WHATEVER... STEAM ID: TridenTBoy I have my own dedicated server, that we can join woot-woot.

Normal is just for the console kidz.


Did you try expert? You really haven't played until you do it on expert..

This is true, I spent about 2 hours playing on expert yesterday and even though all 4 players were experienced, we only beat the demo a couple of times. The director made things extra tough near the end by throwing in a tank or two. Aside from running back and hiding in the air ducts, I have yet to figure out a consistent way to bring one of them down.

taking down tanks are rather easy if you are lucky and encounter one in a good place

I have taken one almost solo at the ticket sales in the subway, just by running through the gates constantly in circles

also near one of the subway carts there are alot of pillars which help alot, though I have died more often than succeded there.




tomorrow

 

[Peelback79]

Just got done playing on expert for a few hours yesterday. I was kind of worried that I wouldn't like it, but after playing it I'm glad I bought it. Can't wait untill the game gets released.
It's probably been mentioned before, but if anyone is still in limbo as to whether or not to get it here's why I'd recommend it:

-Good graphics and engine. (Source ftw)
-Excellent character animation. I was really impressed how the zombies climb up, down, around and through things. Even punching through and grabbing at you through closed doors.
-Excellent level design. Granted we've only seen two, but I think we'll be impressed with the rest of the levels.
-The random horde rushes prevent you from getting complacent. I like the fact that you can't stop and heal up at a certain point because you know that once you walk to a certain point you're going to be rushed. (except at the end of the level)
-The bosses are awesome. Not always difficult, except for the tank. 3/4 times when my group would run into one we'd end up going down. I love the smokers. It's so awesome when a teammate starts getting constricted out of nowhere.

And as a mere personal prefference I liked the characters themselves. The female in the group isn't a watermelons-on-a-lamp-post-sillicone-injected-tomb-raider-knockoff that plagues so many games. The black guy actually looks like he held a decent job and doesn't lame up the in game talk with quips about how high he's going to get. I know that's just a personal prefference but I like games with more realistic characters.

In closing, I was worried that this game wasn't going to be as good because how good can co-op vs. zombie npc's get? Now I know and I'd recommend it. Valve did a good job of taking a good idea to the next level.

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: zerogear
Doesn't look very good to me, so I'll probably skip it.

back that up? name the last game Valve released that didn't deliver.....

Some people just cant tell a good game from a bad one, its the whole reason EA is still in buisness. I struggle to believe it but some people dont like starcraft either... yeah its a crazy world the internet.

Its not that, I'm just not a fan of Zombie-games. All the plot seems the same. I'm sure it'll be fun for those who are interested.

 

[Jakeisbest]

Originally posted by: zerogear

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: zerogear
Doesn't look very good to me, so I'll probably skip it.

back that up? name the last game Valve released that didn't deliver.....

Some people just cant tell a good game from a bad one, its the whole reason EA is still in buisness. I struggle to believe it but some people dont like starcraft either... yeah its a crazy world the internet.

Its not that, I'm just not a fan of Zombie-games. All the plot seems the same. I'm sure it'll be fun for those who are interested.

Left 4 Dead like most Valve games you get exactly what you are expecting.

TF2: two teams running around killing and trying to capture a fort.
Portal: Fun puzzles involving the use of portals
CS: terrorist vs counter terrorist fps
L4D: Coop team vs a huge horde of zombies

If you like killing lots of zombies in a coop mode with your friends this is probably the best game for doing that. If you don't like killing zombies with your friends, then, you should pass.

Also, did any one else feel the difficulty jump from advanced to expert was huge? Advanced we beat easily the first run through. We switched to expert and had a hard time getting through the first couple of levels.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Czar
director_panic_forever 1
force_director_panic

endless stream of zombies?

Like nothing you've ever seen.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: soxfan

Originally posted by: Oakenfold

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Then the second level was just as easy

IF ANYONE WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME, PLAY INFECTED, WHATEVER... STEAM ID: TridenTBoy I have my own dedicated server, that we can join woot-woot.

Normal is just for the console kidz.


Did you try expert? You really haven't played until you do it on expert..

This is true, I spent about 2 hours playing on expert yesterday and even though all 4 players were experienced, we only beat the demo a couple of times. The director made things extra tough near the end by throwing in a tank or two. Aside from running back and hiding in the air ducts, I have yet to figure out a consistent way to bring one of them down.

taking down tanks are rather easy if you are lucky and encounter one in a good place

I have taken one almost solo at the ticket sales in the subway, just by running through the gates constantly in circles

also near one of the subway carts there are alot of pillars which help alot, though I have died more often than succeded there.




tomorrow

I don't play on console... that's why I have a steam ID... Expert is REALLY EASY. I have played through the entire first level on expert without getting hit once and doing A LOT OF MELEE attacks. Game is way too easy... I only get hurt by my team mates failure. (I.e. letting a zombie pass them to get me or shooting me)

 

[Oakenfold]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

I don't play on console... that's why I have a steam ID... Expert is REALLY EASY. I have played through the entire first level on expert without getting hit once and doing A LOT OF MELEE attacks. Game is way too easy... I only get hurt by my team mates failure. (I.e. letting a zombie pass them to get me or shooting me)

I must have missed where you said you were playing on expert, I was assuming that it was easy for you because you were playing it on normal.

If it's that easy for you maybe some modders will come up with a way to make it more difficult. Also keep in mind that there are another 18 levels, we've only seen two. Maybe it will offer more challenges than we've seen.

I may look you up on Steam to see if you are as good as you say you are. Believe me, if I'm on your team you better be good, cuz you are going to be injured by friendly fire quite often.
:laugh:

 

[pcslookout]

Do you all think the full Left 4 Dead is going to have a map inside a mall ? That would be pretty awesome.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: Oakenfold

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

I don't play on console... that's why I have a steam ID... Expert is REALLY EASY. I have played through the entire first level on expert without getting hit once and doing A LOT OF MELEE attacks. Game is way too easy... I only get hurt by my team mates failure. (I.e. letting a zombie pass them to get me or shooting me)

I must have missed where you said you were playing on expert, I was assuming that it was easy for you because you were playing it on normal.

If it's that easy for you maybe some modders will come up with a way to make it more difficult. Also keep in mind that there are another 18 levels, we've only seen two. Maybe it will offer more challenges than we've seen.

I may look you up on Steam to see if you are as good as you say you are. Believe me, if I'm on your team you better be good, cuz you are going to be injured by friendly fire quite often.
:laugh:

I'd love to play with you. A lot of the friends on my friendslist either don't have the game or don't play anymore. :'(

 

[Magusigne]

does the demo unlock at midnight steam time for the rest of us unlucky SoBs?

 

[TBSN]

Quick question about co-op:

If you don't have any Steam friends do you have to play with bots, or can join like 4 person servers playing the main story?

What if you quit, can you start from the level where you left off?

I am a little nervous about having to deal with people online, who can sometimes be total idiots which is while I don't usually play online games (like spraying random shit in CS:S, jumping around like 'tards, shooting their own teammates, spamming chat, etc.)

 

[dlock13]

Originally posted by: TBSN
Quick question about co-op:

If you don't have any Steam friends do you have to play with bots, or can join like 4 person servers playing the main story?

What if you quit, can you start from the level where you left off?

I am a little nervous about having to deal with people online, who can sometimes be total idiots which is while I don't usually play online games (like spraying random shit in CS:S, jumping around like 'tards, shooting their own teammates, spamming chat, etc.)

You can join others, and you can set it to pick where you want to play and what movie/part of the movie you want to play. You can play with the computer AI, but I find it 100% more fun with real people.

Also, just group with a bunch of ATOTers. I find most of them are sensible enough to not be jerks online. Actually, all of them are pretty damn swell to play with. That's what I'm doing.

On www.halflife2.net, I've group up with a bunch of lads from there, and I've been playing co-op with them for the whole time this demo has been released.

 

[TBSN]

Originally posted by: dlock13

Originally posted by: TBSN
Quick question about co-op:

If you don't have any Steam friends do you have to play with bots, or can join like 4 person servers playing the main story?

What if you quit, can you start from the level where you left off?

I am a little nervous about having to deal with people online, who can sometimes be total idiots which is while I don't usually play online games (like spraying random shit in CS:S, jumping around like 'tards, shooting their own teammates, spamming chat, etc.)

You can join others, and you can set it to pick where you want to play and what movie/part of the movie you want to play. You can play with the computer AI, but I find it 100% more fun with real people.

Also, just group with a bunch of ATOTers. I find most of them are sensible enough to not be jerks online. Actually, all of them are pretty damn swell to play with. That's what I'm doing.

On www.halflife2.net, I've group up with a bunch of lads from there, and I've been playing co-op with them for the whole time this demo has been released.

Cool, good to know its easy to start/stop without missing anything. I'll definitely check it out when the demo comes out for those who don't preorder it.