**Official Left 4 Dead thread**

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: coreyb

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i love the feel of the source engine, every other fps engine feels like its lacking something.

I feel it's the opposite...

The source engine feels like it's missing something. I dunno.

I feel like Source is the refernce for which all other FPS engines should be compared to.

It's perfection.

Yeah apart from its annoying tendancy to crash when minimized its really good, also people who dont like half life 2 should be shunned as i have to assume they dont like it because its popular and they want some attention etc. There just isnt really any fault with the game at all, "its too linear" isnt valid because its supposed to be linear, this isnt halfcry 2 trigens revenge. If you are not impressed by storming a prison crawling with guards that have glowing eyes and turret guns with a bunch of antlion monsters at your control then your standards are too high.

yeah because no one is allowed to have opinions that differ from yours...:roll:

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: coreyb

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i love the feel of the source engine, every other fps engine feels like its lacking something.

I feel it's the opposite...

The source engine feels like it's missing something. I dunno.

I feel like Source is the refernce for which all other FPS engines should be compared to.

It's perfection.

Yeah apart from its annoying tendancy to crash when minimized its really good, also people who dont like half life 2 should be shunned as i have to assume they dont like it because its popular and they want some attention etc. There just isnt really any fault with the game at all, "its too linear" isnt valid because its supposed to be linear, this isnt halfcry 2 trigens revenge. If you are not impressed by storming a prison crawling with guards that have glowing eyes and turret guns with a bunch of antlion monsters at your control then your standards are too high.

yeah because no one is allowed to have opinions that differ from yours...:roll:

no its just some are known to be attention whores or wanna be counter culture tools.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: coreyb

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i love the feel of the source engine, every other fps engine feels like its lacking something.

I feel it's the opposite...

The source engine feels like it's missing something. I dunno.

I feel like Source is the refernce for which all other FPS engines should be compared to.

It's perfection.

Yeah apart from its annoying tendancy to crash when minimized its really good, also people who dont like half life 2 should be shunned as i have to assume they dont like it because its popular and they want some attention etc. There just isnt really any fault with the game at all, "its too linear" isnt valid because its supposed to be linear, this isnt halfcry 2 trigens revenge. If you are not impressed by storming a prison crawling with guards that have glowing eyes and turret guns with a bunch of antlion monsters at your control then your standards are too high.

yeah because no one is allowed to have opinions that differ from yours...:roll:

no its just some are known to be attention whores or wanna be counter culture tools.

i hope you're not talking about me.

 

[CVSiN]

Why because we didn't like CS or CSS or HL2? or Starcrap?
sorry to rain on your parade but you know those were rather shallow games..
HL broke new ground and at the time was original.. HL2 was not it sat on its laurels and relied on a crappier story than HL1 and to me it fails.

CS was by far the worst shooter game of its time. again there were and are far better MP shooters during its heyday.

CSS was a graphic update to the same poop...

and dont even get me started on SC.. there are FAR FAR better RTS games out there. I never understood why people literally had wet dreams over SC..


Sorry but different people like different things just because a game is the second coming of Christ to you doesn't mean it is to everyone.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Why because we didn't like CS or CSS or HL2? or Starcrap?
sorry to rain on your parade but you know those were rather shallow games..
HL broke new ground and at the time was original.. HL2 was not it sat on its laurels and relied on a crappier story than HL1 and to me it fails.

CS was by far the worst shooter game of its time. again there were and are far better MP shooters during its heyday.

CSS was a graphic update to the same poop...

and dont even get me started on SC.. there are FAR FAR better RTS games out there. I never understood why people literally had wet dreams over SC..


Sorry but different people like different things just because a game is the second coming of Christ to you doesn't mean it is to everyone.

You sir, need to go play on consoles.

 

[zerocool84]

Geez guys. So what some people don't like the games you like. Who cares. That's why there are many different types of games made. I for one loved HL1/2, CS, TF2, and pretty much everything that has to do with Half Life and it's mods. I'm getting this game and hopefully it'll run decently until I upgrade.

 

[tailes151]

Jesus, stop arguing. So some people don't like what the majority of gamers consider to be good/great games. Too bad for them, stop trying to convince them otherwise. We'll all know how the game is in a couple of weeks anyways, at which point I'm sure some people will be saying they love it and others the exact opposite....

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Have all of you seen the intro?

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
Have all of you seen the intro?

Yes, it's amazing

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Why because we didn't like CS or CSS or HL2? or Starcrap?
sorry to rain on your parade but you know those were rather shallow games..
HL broke new ground and at the time was original.. HL2 was not it sat on its laurels and relied on a crappier story than HL1 and to me it fails.

CS was by far the worst shooter game of its time. again there were and are far better MP shooters during its heyday.

CSS was a graphic update to the same poop...

and dont even get me started on SC.. there are FAR FAR better RTS games out there. I never understood why people literally had wet dreams over SC..


Sorry but different people like different things just because a game is the second coming of Christ to you doesn't mean it is to everyone.

You sir, need to go play on consoles.

Why would I want to play a console? even shallower games written to appeal to even broader market..
face it the gaming industry for the most part hasn't done anything revolutionary since the invention of the MMO and Doom. after that its all been the same crap with different boxes.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Why because we didn't like CS or CSS or HL2? or Starcrap?
sorry to rain on your parade but you know those were rather shallow games..
HL broke new ground and at the time was original.. HL2 was not it sat on its laurels and relied on a crappier story than HL1 and to me it fails.

CS was by far the worst shooter game of its time. again there were and are far better MP shooters during its heyday.

CSS was a graphic update to the same poop...

and dont even get me started on SC.. there are FAR FAR better RTS games out there. I never understood why people literally had wet dreams over SC..


Sorry but different people like different things just because a game is the second coming of Christ to you doesn't mean it is to everyone.

You sir, need to go play on consoles.

Why would I want to play a console? even shallower games written to appeal to even broader market..
face it the gaming industry for the most part hasn't done anything revolutionary since the invention of the MMO and Doom. after that its all been the same crap with different boxes.

i agree, just because i don't have orgasms over some overhyped, overrated game doesn't mean i want or should go play console games. i don't even see how you could even come to that conclusion, other than you're just being an elitist a-hole.

 

[skace]

I wouldn't say Starcraft and CS are overhyped though. Starcraft is the best RTS game ever made. That's a title it holds. It wasn't ground breaking, but sometimes the best stuff isn't. The multiplayer just stuck.

CS was never hyped. It was a free mod made by 1 man from the start and it caught on from there. I'm of the opinion that it was better in beta and I stopped playing it after Gooseman and then Valve ironed out everything they felt was "unfair". However, it was basically the evolution of action quake, but it all sort of came together in CS very well, the game play stuck and people enjoyed it.

HL2 is certainly an amazing FPS. I think the only way HL3 could improve is if they go the hybrid FPS / RPG route and add some depth with inventory and whatnot. I personally feel that the inventory systems in the FPS genre is becoming a necessity. Games without them feel awkward. For single player, obviously. When I start talking about multiplayer FPS, nothing has touched Quake and it's not even worth discussing in my mind. If you want to do a good multiplayer FPS, make it your main agenda and do it right.

Edit: Oh and Left4Dead better be awesome, I can't wait.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: skace
I think the only way HL3 could improve is if they go the hybrid FPS / RPG route and add some depth with inventory and whatnot.

good god, i hope not. anyway, Left4Dead fucking rocks...i played the early demo this morning at my buddies and its fantastic. can't wait for the whole game.

 

[Praxis1452]

so how's the demo? I might pre-order if it's any good.

 

[CVSiN]

yeh I may stop by GS and just get a preorder to try the demo.
how large a download?

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
so how's the demo? I might pre-order if it's any good.

The demo is amazing, if short.


Valve has done it again!

 

[PeanutButter]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
yeh I may stop by GS and just get a preorder to try the demo.
how large a download?

I think it's around 3,500mb.

 

[sygyzy]

Will this be better on PC or 360?

The thing that worries me about this is it's a game that is asking to be beaten/completed but it's set up as a casual MP game where people join and quit every 5 mins. Valve can't have both. Is this Gears of War or is it Team Fortress? You know?

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
Will this be better on PC or 360?

The thing that worries me about this is it's a game that is asking to be beaten/completed but it's set up as a casual MP game where people join and quit every 5 mins. Valve can't have both. Is this Gears of War or is it Team Fortress? You know?

I'm worried about this as well as the annoying kids that will TK the whole team for fun. Those are things that are inevitable. Obviously finding mature players always helps but when you go PUB, it's hard to find a good team.

 

[43st]

I liked the demo. My friends and I had a hard time getting into a server, but I finally managed later on. Just with some random folks though, but still pretty fun.

I have an odd sense of calmness in the game though, it's almost the feeling of having a job to do and I better get to it. It's not horror or fear in any way. Melee works a bit too well, it's almost a shield if you can back up into a corner and start swinging. Two melee swings and a zombie will die, and I think you can hit multiple zombs per swing. The game interface is typical Valve, very smooth and elegant in it's little hiccups or disconnects (Vista 64).

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: 43st
I liked the demo. My friends and I had a hard time getting into a server, but I finally managed later on. Just with some random folks though, but still pretty fun.

Yeah thats pretty much my experience, awesome fun but needs more dedicated servers right now.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: 43st
I liked the demo. My friends and I had a hard time getting into a server, but I finally managed later on. Just with some random folks though, but still pretty fun.

Yeah thats pretty much my experience, awesome fun but needs more dedicated servers right now.

Need to get rid of the lobby bullsh!t.


I recommend using "openserverbrowser" in console to launch the classic Source server browser.

 

[Avalon]

I'd actually like the lobby if they ironed out the bugs, but I'd also still prefer to have server browser.

Anyway, been playing the demo all day yesterday, and the game is ridiculous fun. I'm gonna have to break out the headphones and play at night tonight with the lights out

 

[SniperDaws]

Wheres the demo ?

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Wheres the demo ?

If you pre-ordered it the demo shows up in steam. Otherwise you have to wait another week.

Well, after running, no, fighting with dedicated servers over the past day, there have been a ton of improvements released. rcon is still broken, but at least you can password servers now, buuut the matchmaking system still drops four people into your server, even if you password it before it heartbeats. There have been some really funky things going on in console too.

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:laugh: