OFFICIAL LG G3 Thread: Lets talk about the G3....

[Ravynmagi]

Aesthetically I didn't like the protruding button on the G2. The buttons look much nicer on the G3 and it appears to be more flush now.

 

[richierich1212]

I wonder what the pricing will be for the 3GB/32GB model. I honestly can't wait.

 

[number29ag]

Shrug, as far as mobile operating systems go, there's nothing else better than Android right now. iOS is a distance second and Windows Phone is still trying to be considered not a joke. The G3 will most assuredly be Android based, with LG's 'Home' skin on top. Or whatever LG is calling their UI these days.

Using both, Android is definitely a distant second to iOS. YMMV though. But having Android rights off the G3 for me. It's a shame really as the hardware looks nice, but having decent software is absolutely crucial and I couldn't downgraded from iOS to Android anytime soon.

 

[Wingznut]

Let's hope LG are using something better than Android for this.

Using both, Android is definitely a distant second to iOS. YMMV though. But having Android rights off the G3 for me. It's a shame really as the hardware looks nice, but having decent software is absolutely crucial and I couldn't downgraded from iOS to Android anytime soon.

Wait... Did you think that it might actually be a possibility, that the G3 would be running iOS? Because that's not how it works.

 

[WelshBloke]

Wait... Did you think that it might actually be a possibility, that the G3 would be running iOS? Because that's not how it works.

He be trolling.

 

[number29ag]

Wait... Did you think that it might actually be a possibility, that the G3 would be running iOS? Because that's not how it works.

Nope, but I'm ever hopeful of something more iOS like from one of these manufacturers. Apple got the approach just right with iOS and more options like it would be great. I already know what Android is and I'm finding it very boring seeing slab after slab running that same tired old OS.

 

[Wingznut]

Nope, but I'm ever hopeful of something more iOS like from one of these manufacturers. Apple got the approach just right with iOS and more options like it would be great. I already know what Android is and I'm finding it very boring seeing slab after slab running that same tired old OS.

I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone, who likes iOS, and calls Android "tired"... I mean, Android is infinitely customizable, whereas if you've seen one iOS phone, you've seen them all.

 

[number29ag]

I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone, who likes iOS, and calls Android "tired"... I mean, Android is infinitely customizable, whereas if you've seen one iOS phone, you've seen them all.

Because you know when it's Android that it has the same flaws as every other Android device and in the absence of news from Google about improvements to Android, these devices have the same tired issues as every other Android device. So I'm ever hopeful that these devices will sport something other than Android in the hope that these flaws will be mitigated by going with a different OS. I wouldn't call iOS tired as it already works great.

 

[kpkp]

Because you know when it's iOS that it has the same flaws as every other iOS device and in the absence of news from Apple about improvements to iOS, these devices have the same tired issues as every other iOS device. So I'm ever hopeful that these devices will sport something other than iOS in the hope that these flaws will be mitigated by going with a different OS. I wouldn't call Android tired as it already works great.

:whiste:

You don't make any arguments here, just silly works, it is like listening to a politician. Who cares what would you call what, if you want to argue something use arguments not meaningless empty words.

 

[number29ag]

:whiste:

You don't make any arguments here, just silly works, it is like listening to a politician. Who cares what would you call what, if you want to argue something use arguments not meaningless empty words.

I'm not making any arguments, I'm just stating the situation. The difference between the two is that issues with iOS aren't showstoppers.

 

[you2]

Has any of the previews mentioned if the sound/audio quality is decent. for some reason the g2, while loud, had a really hollow yucky sound.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm not making any arguments

No... No you're not are you?

 

[Wingznut]

Because you know when it's Android that it has the same flaws as every other Android device... these devices have the same tired issues as every other Android device.

Oh, I see what you mean. But what flaws and issues are you referring to?

 

[Rdmkr]

Has any of the previews mentioned if the sound/audio quality is decent. for some reason the g2, while loud, had a really hollow yucky sound.

having had the (snapdragon) SGS4 & LG G2 side by side I thought the S4 sounded worse, although part of that was because the S4 had its speaker on the back (fully obstructed) instead of at the bottom (half obstructed).

With the G3, LG has moved its speaker from the bottom to the back. Fingers crossed I suppose...

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Wait... Did you think that it might actually be a possibility, that the G3 would be running iOS? Because that's not how it works.

I showed my boss the Oppo Find 7 the other week when we were in China. Then he did some reading and found out it used Android and he said "dealbreaker." Not sure what the alternative would've been. Clearly not iOS, so Windows Phone would've worked?

With that said hardware wise this phone looks solid. Weak points include the camera and I'm still not a fan of the back buttons. Before you tell me that you can get used to, believe me I know what you mean. When you're holding the phone with 1 hand its very easy to manipulate. What if I put it on my hands free charger? Or on the desk while I'm on a con call? I like the pinch (index and thumb) option that I can make on typical phones where I pinch the sides and tap the volume rocker a few times. What do I have to do with the G3? Flip it over? Pick it up entirely? I think the biggest use case would be in a handsfree situation where I gotta quickly adjust the volume (remember volume is a balance of the BT volume and your car speaker volume).

I suppose a solution could be to properly setup NFC profiles in the car....

 

[dawheat]

I showed my boss the Oppo Find 7 the other week when we were in China. Then he did some reading and found out it used Android and he said "dealbreaker." Not sure what the alternative would've been. Clearly not iOS, so Windows Phone would've worked?

With that said hardware wise this phone looks solid. Weak points include the camera and I'm still not a fan of the back buttons. Before you tell me that you can get used to, believe me I know what you mean. When you're holding the phone with 1 hand its very easy to manipulate. What if I put it on my hands free charger? Or on the desk while I'm on a con call? I like the pinch (index and thumb) option that I can make on typical phones where I pinch the sides and tap the volume rocker a few times. What do I have to do with the G3? Flip it over? Pick it up entirely? I think the biggest use case would be in a handsfree situation where I gotta quickly adjust the volume (remember volume is a balance of the BT volume and your car speaker volume).

I suppose a solution could be to properly setup NFC profiles in the car....

Why do you think the camera is a weak point? A 13mp camera with OIS and fast focus seems competitive at the least.

 

[you2]

Not claiming either way; but how about image quality and auto-WB; not to mention lens quality, noise handling abd colour balance ?

Why do you think the camera is a weak point? A 13mp camera with OIS and fast focus seems competitive at the least.

 

[kaerflog]

I showed my boss the Oppo Find 7 the other week when we were in China. Then he did some reading and found out it used Android and he said "dealbreaker." Not sure what the alternative would've been. Clearly not iOS, so Windows Phone would've worked?

With that said hardware wise this phone looks solid. Weak points include the camera and I'm still not a fan of the back buttons. Before you tell me that you can get used to, believe me I know what you mean. When you're holding the phone with 1 hand its very easy to manipulate. What if I put it on my hands free charger? Or on the desk while I'm on a con call? I like the pinch (index and thumb) option that I can make on typical phones where I pinch the sides and tap the volume rocker a few times. What do I have to do with the G3? Flip it over? Pick it up entirely? I think the biggest use case would be in a handsfree situation where I gotta quickly adjust the volume (remember volume is a balance of the BT volume and your car speaker volume).

I suppose a solution could be to properly setup NFC profiles in the car....

Are you serious ???
You swipe to bring the menu down and there's a slider to adjust your volume right there.
People who say the buttons on the back is a deal breaker is laughable.
That's like me saying the buttons on the side is a deal breaker for me.
Sure its a preference but a deal breaker ?? Common....

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Are you serious ???
You swipe to bring the menu down and there's a slider to adjust your volume right there.
People who say the buttons on the back is a deal breaker is laughable.
That's like me saying the buttons on the side is a deal breaker for me.
Sure its a preference but a deal breaker ?? Common....

Did I say it was a dealbreaker? Or are you reading the top portion of my comment which was not even about the G3?

I'm saying its my preference to have quick physical access to the volume keys. I illustrated a case where my phone is on a handsfree dock like this:

It's far easier to have buttons on the side in this case so I can quickly adjust the volume (remember, output volume is a combination of the BT volume AND car speaker volume).

And while you bring up a good point that I can swipe down and adjust the volume while keeping the phone facing up, it's an extra step.

Once again I'm just stating my preference. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

Why do you think the camera is a weak point? A 13mp camera with OIS and fast focus seems competitive at the least.

I think its the fact that they're using the same exact sensor as last year. OPO and Samsung went to IMX214. Anyway, as a Nexus user, I'm sure the camera is still a step up for me.

Edit: It may be using the IMX214 based on some other evidence, but there hasn't been full confirmation yet.

 

[openwheel]

LG G2 had a great camera sensor but crippled by software. It appears LG has solved the focus issue and hopefully the software is better this time to take advantage of great hardware.

 

[s44]

Samsung actually went to their own module.

 

[paperwastage]

I think its the fact that they're using the same exact sensor as last year. OPO and Samsung went to IMX214. Anyway, as a Nexus user, I'm sure the camera is still a step up for me.

Edit: It may be using the IMX214 based on some other evidence, but there hasn't been full confirmation yet.

G3 is using the same IMX135 sensor from the G2

though the lens / IR-guided-AF could make it better



for example, the Z2 uses the same sensors as the Z1, but Z2's pictures are better than Z1 (and allows 4k recording)

here is some examples of Z2 vs Oppo 7a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765743

 

[GregoryWE]

I might be in the minority but I find OIS much more important on a phone camera than the sensor at this point. It'll never capture images as good as my DSLR but then if I was going to be taking pictures, I bring my DSLR. When I do happen to use my phone, it's for quick shots and I'll take a stable and clear shot as a priority, especially considering the usage I put camera pictures to (send to friends, upload to facebook etc). If I wanted the clearest and most accurate picture possible I don't think at all of picking a phone.

I know this doesn't apply to everyone.

Camera is probably the last thing I worry about on my phone.

Yes very true. Given the small sensors on smart phones, long shutter speeds often come into play in anything but good light, and OIS really becomes important at that point.

And yes, there's no smartphone that will ever replace a full size camera with a large sensor and fast prime lens. Due to the size constraint we're limited by pure physics. For anything that requires quality my m4/3 and prime lenses come along with me.

BTW after seeing some additional samples by PhoneArena and AndroidCentral the G3's camera does seem to be quite good. If it is in fact the same sensor then a lot of the improvement seems to have come from software processing. Due to the lack of RAW support in Android as of now the initial software processing becomes just that much more important.

Also, for video, LG's OIS+ is far and away better than any other Android device. Many can shoot quality 4k video but can't stabilize it well or at all (as in the Galaxy S5's case!).

One of Android Central's editors said that he was told by LG the sensor on the G3 is not the same as the G2. Either way, the G3 is definitely an improvement over the G2 from the results that we've seen thus far.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

The funny thing about OIS is people were complaining about the 1/6 and 1/8 shutter speeds on the Nexus 5 and in the 4.4.2 camera update they sped up the shutter. So it's not taking full advantage of OIS in the end. Not sure how the G2 and G3 choose shutter speeds though.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Samsung actually went to their own module.

Maybe it was the S4 using the IMX135 then. The S5 they went with their own.