**Official** Matrix Revolutions Thread **w/ SPOILERS**

Linux23

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**Confirmed**

There are about two pages of threads on this one subject. If you have seen the movie, post your thought here, in this one thread please.

EDIT: Mods, can we get a sticky?

EDIT2: Added Spoilers to the title.
 

Confused

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If this is gonna be discussing the film, be sure to put ***SPOILERS*** in the title, i'm lucky when I clicked into this that there was no spoilers yet


Confused
 

sillymofo

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
How can this be the official thread when noone here has posted anything about it yet??
I think it's a good movie, definitely a rental. It can be a little confusing, because in the end, Neo is left facing what seems to be lies, about the prophecy, and everything that he and Morpheus believed in.
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
How can this be the official thread when noone here has posted anything about it yet??

in order to prevent 100 other Matrix threads from popping up in the future.
 

iotone

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i did like the gun scene at the beginning... it's not the lobby scene from the original, but quite good...
 

Luagsch

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so well. let me start with *SCHPOILARS*

the movie was okay. as my expectations weren't too high i got exacly what i thought. cgi-orgies, bullet-time- magnificante and action, action and action.

but the movie as a work of story-telling sucked. they wanted to make it big, too big in my book, so that the feel for the characters was gone. only in the last fight i had some emotional involvement cause it was the good old neo vs. smith.

what i found uterly ridicule were all the crosses arrising after neo sacrificed himself. well yes, he was the missiah but that takes away a great level of philosophy away and puts an unquestional religious refearence as the true end of it all. (i liked though the god-figure in the machine city).

the whole movie felt like a zapping night in front of the tv. you get the story, but it's so "away" that it doesn't stick.

anyway i'm gonna see it again.
 

iotone

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in the "trilogy" sense, i think it made for a good last part... but for the story itself, it did seem to take away from the characters, but maybe the character development was left to the first movie so that the wachowskis could cram whatever they needed in the last two??

just my .02
 

wicktron

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Originally posted by: iotone
in the "trilogy" sense, i think it made for a good last part... but for the story itself, it did seem to take away from the characters, but maybe the character development was left to the first movie so that the wachowskis could cram whatever they needed in the last two??

just my .02

Yeah, I agree with the whole "characters have been developed" part. No time to waste on personal levels. Revolutions is about the grand scheme of things.
 

Blindman

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Is that young girl the NOS or the main program of the matrix? And everything else is build upon that young little girl?

From others and net people have argued that the "real wold" was another matrix. So what do you think of this matrix within a matrix theory after seeing the end?

one more comment I cant think of the computer reference in which smith was finally destroyed.

We undersand that he was a virus and that he was replicating himself through programs and users but how was he destroyed when he succeded in destroying neo? It dosnt make much sense as to how he was removed.
 

CrazyDe1

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Sweet..thanks for the spoiler. I've been on the edge and kind of pissed since I watched reloaded on DVD last week...I htae things that continue...I'll go see it later tonight.
 

PlatinumGold

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ok. i just got back from watching this film.

did i enjoy it? yes. did it meet all my expectations? well, mb not.

i'm willing to bet tho that in about 2 weeks interpretations of this movie will be rampant and the whole thing will be much deeper than i imagined it on first viewing. me i'm not meticulous enough to watch it multiple times and dig up all the small details.

shoot, i misssed the whole cross thing. i don't remember that at all.
 

Blindman

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what do u think of end? platium gold?

how was the smith virus radicated in your oppinion.

As for the cross part, I thought it was sort of disstasteful.

 

Ziptar

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Well.. that was a waste.. Just not the third one... The third one ruined the previous two..... The whole Trilogy is crap now aside from seeing some really cool effects..

Smith was the only real threat to the Machine world... not Neo... Not the Humans.. Smith wanted it all for no apparent reseon, he just did.... Neo was Played by the Oracle to do her bidding and play the game... Until at least Smith was a threat to her, then she uses Neo to stop Smith and save the Machine World...... Kind of convienient that the oracle is someone completely different in this one (OK so the actress that played her really did die..) and has to "make a change" and "tough choice". Basically it was all just a game that the Oracle and the Architect played until Smith got out of Control... then it wasn't funny anymore... In the end the Oracle is the one that actually destroys Smith... but it is never made clear how...

So... In the end Neo is Dead (and Blind) Trinity is Dead, The Machine World Goes on as If nothing Happend, Happily cranking out little human batteries, with the exception that they promise to leave the Humans that live in the hole in the ground alone, and let other unhappy human batteries leave the Matrix and go live in a hole in the ground too. WOO HOO!!! Neo really kicked some Machine ass and the Humans came out on top of that one..

Basically... That makes the whole Trilogy pointless... Neo and the Humans are right back where they started (except Neo is blind and dead.). Actully less than that.. Oh sure the machines will leave them alone in thier hole in the ground, but they could have had that if they didn't bother to come out of the hole in the first place... Now they are still in the hole but, there is allot less of them and the place is a mess...


At first you might think that Whoa! brilliant piece of writting for the oracle to be using Neo to sniff out Smith who was the anomoly and the one all along, and then use the humans against themselves to make the matrix better... What a mind job.....

Well I wish it was the case... It's the final closing scene that destroys all three fils in one fell swoop.. There are no answers, there is no resolution....

There in the bright rising sun, three computer programs chat it up, The Oracle and The Architect sum up three movies worth of plot in a fashion that I can only equate to Mortimer and Randolph Duke settling their one dollar bet in Trading places... even then there is hope... until the Oracle delivers the line that leaves it all up for Matrix 4..... Then it's done... that clinches it...

The ending is nothing more than the Hollywood machine primimg it's pumps to milk movie goers all over again.. That's when the stench sets in and you realize that the entire third movie is just a stinking hack job, that when you see the plot and charcter changes for what they are... Irrelevent and meaningless.....

Yeah.. The matrix Trilogy is over allright.. They killed it.... The ending of this one strips away any intrpretation, symbolism, or mystery of the Matrix Series... It turns the whole thing into homginized, prepacked, Hollywood commercial piece of crap..


I can't agree more with the Rolling Stone Reviwer...

As for the big-payoff ending -- the equivalent of a Viking funeral -- it reduces the Wachowskis' take on the Judeo-Christian ethic to Hollywood gloss. Cueing the music, the sunshine and the hint of another sequel can't distract us from the fact that nothing is revealed. Neo, dude, you blew it.

It is defineitly a rotten tomato.. Someone give me a Blue Pill so I can forget it ever happend...
 
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