**Official** Matrix Revolutions Thread **w/ SPOILERS**

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: Blindman
Ziptar
Perhaps one of the strongest flaw to this entire triliogy. . . why the heck didnt the machine just move to another planet. They didnt need earth. Yea earth was covered in black smoke heck they can simply move. Could have developed solar panals in orbit. Guess the Artificial Intiliengence failed to reconize that posiblity and offerd it at the UN council before war broke out. (refrence to Animatrix)

Perhaps they lacked the capacity for interplanetary colonization.

 

[z0mb13]

how the hell was neo able to stop those bombs???

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
how the hell was neo able to stop those bombs???

he used the force

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: z0mb13
how the hell was neo able to stop those bombs???

he used the force

and how he got the force in the first place?? this is the real world.. not another matrix..

if it is another matrix he can revive trinity again

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: z0mb13
how the hell was neo able to stop those bombs???

he used the force

and how he got the force in the first place?? this is the real world.. not another matrix..

if it is another matrix he can revive trinity again

the same way he could be at the Train station without being jacked in. the same way that Smith could be in Blink. something about each of them was in the other. neo had a psychic link to the source code.

the real question is, if neo had a psychic link to the source code, why did he have to go the machine city.

i've said it elsewhere, but i enjoyed this movie, i enjoyed the 2nd one and i enjoyed the first one. i got what i expected out of 2 and 3 and the first one far exceeded my expectations. that's good enough for me.

 

[MustangSVT]

i guess it was ooo kay.

you just cant please everyone with movie of this type/magnitude.

watched killbill as well... now that was pure crap... but then again some ppl do like boondock saints..

 

[Gaard]

Neo is blind and dead?

Well, I'm assuming he went blind before he died.


<---- hasn't seen the movie yet, but really doesn't care.

 

[SoulAssassin]

re: Oracle and destruction of Smith

In 2 (and I believe 3 as well), the Oracle states that the only way to get there is together. It took the combination of the Oracle and Neo to destroy Smith.

re: Neo's abilities in the real world

Did anyone else find the Oracle's explanation of this in the beginning utter and complete bs? I'm a card-carrying member of the group that believed (believes) in the matrix w/in a matrix theory. This is one of few loopholes that I don't think was closed, unfortunately you can fly a 747 through it.

re: ending

In playing through other scenarios for how it could end in my head like the recycling of the matrix as the architect stated, the destruction of humanity completely or the humanity fighting off the attack, destroying the machines and freeing everyone (maybe not all on camera but at least implied) I think that this was the most feasible. Everything else would have been too positive or too negative. Before anyone critiques the ending, offer an alternative and we'll talk. That being said the sun shot was a little cheesy and the opening for a possible 4th movie after it's been stated pretty clearly it's the end is a little contradictory.

All in all, after seeing it a second time today (I had the day off for a M$ conference that happened to be at a movie theater in Philly, can you blame me?) I think I'm happy.

 

[hawkeye81x]

Originally posted by: Kev

Perhaps one of the strongest flaw to this entire triliogy. . . why the heck didnt the machine just move to another planet. They didnt need earth. Yea earth was covered in black smoke heck they can simply move. Could have developed solar panals in orbit. Guess the Artificial Intiliengence failed to reconize that posiblity and offerd it at the UN council before war broke out. (refrence to Animatrix)

Did you see them try to chase Neo through the sky? they couldn't, it shorted them out, so they were stuck on the planet

My thoughts... I will be extremely brief because I'm in a rush:

I hated the ending. Hated it. They don't explain jack sh*t about what the hell is going on, why all the Smiths suddenly explode. Why does Neo decide to let Smith take over his body, what role does the Oracle apparently... and then they give it another open-ended ending.

The fight with Smith was short and uninteresting. I could have pieced the whole thing together from previews

Though I didn't like the ending either, I can try to explain it.
Agent Smith was a virus. Like all viruses, it's goal was to infect everything.
As the Oracle says, "For every beginning, there is an end."
Thus when Neo realizes that, he allows Agent Smith to infect him. Since Agent Smith has reached his end purpose by eliminating Neo's Matrix program,
the Agent Smith himself ceases to have a purpose and thus useless and "discarded" in a sense by the Matrix which cleans out any useless program.
Get it now?

 

[MacBaine]

Holy crap guys...

Reading some of these posts make me laugh. I just saw the movie, and I loved it. It explained most everything, and tied up the entire story nicely. I'm sick of these self ritegeous people claiming the movie 'sucked' abd was a 'complete waste of time' because it didn't live up to their standards. These are the people that will complain no matter how good a movie it is, because they hated it from the beginning. They had no intention of liking it from the moment they heard it was being made. They hate it because of the hype. Go cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and I encourage people reading this thread who haven't seen it to go see it, and forget about all the comments you've read. It's pretty much the second half of the second film, and IMO, it was done excellently. Some people just love to hate popular things, especially movies, when that's the fad.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Holy crap guys...

Reading some of these posts make me laugh. I just saw the movie, and I loved it. It explained most everything, and tied up the entire story nicely. I'm sick of these self ritegeous people claiming the movie 'sucked' abd was a 'complete waste of time' because it didn't live up to their standards. These are the people that will complain no matter how good a movie it is, because they hated it from the beginning. They had no intention of liking it from the moment they heard it was being made. They hate it because of the hype. Go cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and I encourage people reading this thread who haven't seen it to go see it, and forget about all the comments you've read. It's pretty much the second half of the second film, and IMO, it was done excellently. Some people just love to hate popular things, especially movies, when that's the fad.

agreed.

i think some people actually thought that the whole matrix trilogy was truly DEEP. it wasn't get over it. it was what it was a good Sci-Fi action flick with a few good ideas.

 

[Ns1]

i was makign a star wars cross reference.. ha. hah. funny....

 

[Dragnov]

I'm seeing it @ 9:30 PST!

Have heard a bunc hof bad things but as long as I'm entertained, whatever. I don't need it to be the holy grail of all movies.

 

[PlatinumGold]

actually, for me, i did like one part of the whole film, or one thing i took from it.


that the ESSENCE of reality isn't as important as the choices we make.

 

[hawkeye81x]

i think some people actually thought that the whole matrix trilogy was truly DEEP. it wasn't get over it. it was what it was a good Sci-Fi action flick with a few good ideas.

Precisely. If you want deep, go read some Eastern Philosophy where most of the ideas were already put down 2400 years ago.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Holy crap guys...

Reading some of these posts make me laugh. I just saw the movie, and I loved it. It explained most everything, and tied up the entire story nicely. I'm sick of these self ritegeous people claiming the movie 'sucked' abd was a 'complete waste of time' because it didn't live up to their standards. These are the people that will complain no matter how good a movie it is, because they hated it from the beginning. They had no intention of liking it from the moment they heard it was being made. They hate it because of the hype. Go cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and I encourage people reading this thread who haven't seen it to go see it, and forget about all the comments you've read. It's pretty much the second half of the second film, and IMO, it was done excellently. Some people just love to hate popular things, especially movies, when that's the fad.

agreed.

i think some people actually thought that the whole matrix trilogy was truly DEEP. it wasn't get over it. it was what it was a good Sci-Fi action flick with a few good ideas.

I thought it was pretty deep... but after you understand everything it doesn't seem as much so. The reason everybody is upset now is because they've come up with so many outrageous theories having to do with the aspects of the movie which would be considered deep, and now that everything is revealed, they are disappointed that it wasn't as deep as they had imagined.

 

[Dedpuhl]

I really enjoyed the movie. All this trash talk reminds me of all the backlash from the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. I liked those movies because my expectations weren't through the roof.

It's a movie....stop trying to analyze it with a microscope...

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Holy crap guys...

Reading some of these posts make me laugh. I just saw the movie, and I loved it. It explained most everything, and tied up the entire story nicely. I'm sick of these self ritegeous people claiming the movie 'sucked' abd was a 'complete waste of time' because it didn't live up to their standards. These are the people that will complain no matter how good a movie it is, because they hated it from the beginning. They had no intention of liking it from the moment they heard it was being made. They hate it because of the hype. Go cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and I encourage people reading this thread who haven't seen it to go see it, and forget about all the comments you've read. It's pretty much the second half of the second film, and IMO, it was done excellently. Some people just love to hate popular things, especially movies, when that's the fad.

agreed.

i think some people actually thought that the whole matrix trilogy was truly DEEP. it wasn't get over it. it was what it was a good Sci-Fi action flick with a few good ideas.

I thought it was pretty deep... but after you understand everything it doesn't seem as much so. The reason everybody is upset now is because they've come up with so many outrageous theories having to do with the aspects of the movie which would be considered deep, and now that everything is revealed, they are disappointed that it wasn't as deep as they had imagined.

but isn't it always that way? once you understand it all, and most of the ambiguities are gone, most of the mystery is gone, guess what, it doesn't seem so deep. so what.

 

[LiQiCE]

I agree with Ziptar, this movie was the worst of the three. Maybe leaving too many loose ends is supposed to leave it up for interpretation, but I would have liked a little more information!

I kindof look at this trilogy like I look at Back to the Future. First one was good, second one was ok, third one really sucked!!!!

Leaving it open for a possible fourth movie is BS ...

I also feel like a lot of the action sequences are whatever was left over from Reloaded. It felt like all the good sequences like the highway scene were packed into the 2nd movie.

Personally, I'd recommend anyone thinking about seeing the movie to wait and rent it.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Holy crap guys...

Reading some of these posts make me laugh. I just saw the movie, and I loved it. It explained most everything, and tied up the entire story nicely. I'm sick of these self ritegeous people claiming the movie 'sucked' abd was a 'complete waste of time' because it didn't live up to their standards. These are the people that will complain no matter how good a movie it is, because they hated it from the beginning. They had no intention of liking it from the moment they heard it was being made. They hate it because of the hype. Go cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and I encourage people reading this thread who haven't seen it to go see it, and forget about all the comments you've read. It's pretty much the second half of the second film, and IMO, it was done excellently. Some people just love to hate popular things, especially movies, when that's the fad.

agreed.

i think some people actually thought that the whole matrix trilogy was truly DEEP. it wasn't get over it. it was what it was a good Sci-Fi action flick with a few good ideas.

I thought it was pretty deep... but after you understand everything it doesn't seem as much so. The reason everybody is upset now is because they've come up with so many outrageous theories having to do with the aspects of the movie which would be considered deep, and now that everything is revealed, they are disappointed that it wasn't as deep as they had imagined.

but isn't it always that way? once you understand it all, and most of the ambiguities are gone, most of the mystery is gone, guess what, it doesn't seem so deep. so what.

Exactly, that's how it always is. then people complain about it because the movie doesn't have that same feeling of ominence that it did when the first one came out.

 

[onetwo3]

I seriously think it would have been great if at the very end of the movie Neo wakes up at the computer and none of it ever happened. I enjoyed the first two and I expected the third to effectively connect everything in an awesome way, but it's not as if the movie was that bad... I enjoyed watching it for the aspect of actually watching a movie.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: LiQiCE
I agree with Ziptar, this movie was the worst of the three. Maybe leaving too many loose ends is supposed to leave it up for interpretation, but I would have liked a little more information!

I kindof look at this trilogy like I look at Back to the Future. First one was good, second one was ok, third one really sucked!!!!

Leaving it open for a possible fourth movie is BS ...

I also feel like a lot of the action sequences are whatever was left over from Reloaded. It felt like all the good sequences like the highway scene were packed into the 2nd movie.

Personally, I'd recommend anyone thinking about seeing the movie to wait and rent it.

I no longer value your oppinion of movies. BTTF was an awesome trilogy.

I think that most people are upset with it because it's over. There is no more anticipation, there is no longer any point in trying to figure anything out. It's kinda like the last startrek movie, Nemesis. I thought it was a good movie, but I went out of there thinking it SUCKED because Data had to die! It was the nail in the coffin for my fav. character and I blamed the movie.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: LiQiCE
I agree with Ziptar, this movie was the worst of the three. Maybe leaving too many loose ends is supposed to leave it up for interpretation, but I would have liked a little more information!

I kindof look at this trilogy like I look at Back to the Future. First one was good, second one was ok, third one really sucked!!!!

Leaving it open for a possible fourth movie is BS ...

I also feel like a lot of the action sequences are whatever was left over from Reloaded. It felt like all the good sequences like the highway scene were packed into the 2nd movie.

Personally, I'd recommend anyone thinking about seeing the movie to wait and rent it.

Too many loose ends? Pretty much everything that needed tying up was tied up, or can be tied up with a bit of thought.

And I don't see why everybody is saying it was left open for another movie... it wasn't at all really...

And now there weren't enough actions scenes? Jesus... first people say Reloaded was all action and no plot, now they say Rev. didn't have enough action... give me a break. This movie was action packed, and had an excellent plot to back it.

To all those who haven't seen it, I recommend you go see it in theaters, you won't regret it as long as you don't go in expecting to hate it, like some people in this thread.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: LiQiCE
I agree with Ziptar, this movie was the worst of the three. Maybe leaving too many loose ends is supposed to leave it up for interpretation, but I would have liked a little more information!

I kindof look at this trilogy like I look at Back to the Future. First one was good, second one was ok, third one really sucked!!!!

Leaving it open for a possible fourth movie is BS ...

I also feel like a lot of the action sequences are whatever was left over from Reloaded. It felt like all the good sequences like the highway scene were packed into the 2nd movie.

Personally, I'd recommend anyone thinking about seeing the movie to wait and rent it.

I no longer value your oppinion of movies. BTTF was an awesome trilogy.

I think that most people are upset with it because it's over. There is no more anticipation, there is no longer any point in trying to figure anything out. It's kinda like the last startrek movie, Nemesis. I thought it was a good movie, but I went out of there thinking it SUCKED because Data had to die! It was the nail in the coffin for my fav. character and I blamed the movie.

I agree completely. People feel let down because the trilogy doesn't have the same air of mystery and anticipation that the first one left them with.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: onetwo3
I seriously think it would have been great if at the very end of the movie Neo wakes up at the computer and none of it ever happened. I enjoyed the first two and I expected the third to effectively connect everything in an awesome way, but it's not as if the movie was that bad... I enjoyed watching it for the aspect of actually watching a movie.

That would have left every single person being completely pissed off.