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purbeast0

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I'm still enjoying it, but I gotta say it doesn't hold a candle to COD4.

The camping has ruined it. I estimate about 1 out of every 3 matches doesn't even reach the score limit because of all these pussies hiding at either end of the map.

I have noticed the score thing as well, and I have to attribute it to people not being as aggressive as well. i don't think i've once finished a game on Derail by one team hitting the kill limit (and this is one of my most hated maps).
 

RedCOMET

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The first 4-5 games i played MW2 i got 1 kill a game. Granted it was brand new maps and such. I think i got to level 20 or so on CoD4:MW.. like a 1st Lt rank, so I'll give MW2 some more time.. but i think i gotta find a group of poeple to play with so its more fun.

on a side note. I started doing some of the spec ops with my gf and my brother. my GF never did any of the call of duty games and was like wtf there people shooting me every where.... She was getting quite annoyed. With my brother we were doing fairly well. My GF plays halo(1,2 3) with me all the time; does GoW 1 +2 with me. SHe is quite fun to play Horde mode with online.
 

Kabob

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gotta say, the more and more i have been playing mw2, the less and less i'm liking it.

i'm starting to not like a lot of maps that i initially thought were okay.

i also think a lot of it is due to the way the opponents are playing. there seems to be so much more camping in MW2 than I remember in COD4.

granted it is a valid tactic, i just don't like it because it's boring.

so most of the maps that have buildings and windows to hide in on 2nd floors or roof tops, i'm starting to not like because i'm just seeing so many people camping now.

I'm inclined to agree, there is alot more camping. From the beginning I thought that CoD 4 was a better game. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying MW2 but it is nowhere near the game that CoD 4 was.

That said, I still see myself putting several days worth of multiplayer game time into MW2...
 

purbeast0

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yea don't get me wrong, i will still be playing MW2 religiously, because the game is like crack, but i just find myself getting more frustrated being killed by a guy who is proning with a heartbeat sensor in the tall grass on wasteland as I walk around a corner.

again, sure it is a valid tactic, but it just seems like IW has encouraged camping in this game with some of the decisions they have made.
 

DrunkenSano

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I attribute to the camping and slow pace to how new the game is. People are still just starting to play so either they're new to the CoD series or they're taking the time to learn the maps. I mean, I went rambo'ish two nights ago when I first got the game (Only played CoD4 for a little bit) and got crushed, so that didn't help my team much. I decided after a couple of horrid games to play a lot more cautious and it's helped.
 

mchammer187

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If you hate camping try 3rd person modes the game becomes much more fast paced then.

I also find using stuff like the grenade launchers much easier to use in 3rd person mode.
 

Stuxnet

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I attribute to the camping and slow pace to how new the game is.

No, because COD4 was *never* like this. The reason behind the camping can be (and has been) explained quite easily. If you compare MW2's maps to COD4's maps, it becomes painfully obvious why there is so much camping in MW2 and why there always will be.
 

Kabob

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I still run and gun but I do it at about 1/2 the speed I did it in CoD 4. It's more of a cautious trot and gun.

I gotta say, I'm really liking the Remington ACR. The stats are almost identical to the M4A1/Tar21 but I seem to do really well with it. I think it and the M4 are my two best guns. Still think that most of the SMG's are useless. I tried using the MP5K on Sub Base last night, from 20 feet away it was tough to hit someone.
 

Stuxnet

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I still run and gun but I do it at about 1/2 the speed I did it in CoD 4. It's more of a cautious trot and gun.

I gotta say, I'm really liking the Remington ACR. The stats are almost identical to the M4A1/Tar21 but I seem to do really well with it. I think it and the M4 are my two best guns. Still think that most of the SMG's are useless. I tried using the MP5K on Sub Base last night, from 20 feet away it was tough to hit someone.

Yeah, you're not going to get much done with the SMG's except on a few select maps. The SMG's are (rightfully) terrible at long range, more so than in COD4.

You really can't go wrong with any of the AR's; just pick one that suits your style. I'm fine with all of them except the TAR... that thing owns me.
 

R Nilla

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I'm loving the AA-12 as my secondary weapon. In close range situations I often panic and just spray and pray and this thing gets the job done in that scenario. It feels like something people would bitch at me for using because it's a "noob gun." Luckily I can't hear them.
 

Kabob

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The AA-12 is (IMHO) overpowered, but it certainly is useful. I just can't believe how slow it is to swap from a primary weapon to a machine pistol or shotgun. I discovered on hardcore though that I like using a pistol. Fast swap, accurate, fun!

And I agree that at distances the SMG's should be useless but 20 feet or less is a little ridiculous. I mean, I'm standing on the roof at Sub Base and you're on the ground right in front of me. The first 2 bullets hit you and then it's all over the place.
 

fatpat268

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I have noticed the score thing as well, and I have to attribute it to people not being as aggressive as well. i don't think i've once finished a game on Derail by one team hitting the kill limit (and this is one of my most hated maps).

Out of the ~150 games I've played, maybe less than 10% don't hit the score limit. If there's stupid campers, you gotta come up with a strategy to flush them out. There's many different ways to do so. Camping isn't any different than it was in COD4.

Not sure why your teams have a problem on Derail. I haven't yet had a game end to time on it yet.
 

smackababy

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The AA-12 is (IMHO) overpowered, but it certainly is useful. I just can't believe how slow it is to swap from a primary weapon to a machine pistol or shotgun. I discovered on hardcore though that I like using a pistol. Fast swap, accurate, fun!

And I agree that at distances the SMG's should be useless but 20 feet or less is a little ridiculous. I mean, I'm standing on the roof at Sub Base and you're on the ground right in front of me. The first 2 bullets hit you and then it's all over the place.

TBH, 20 feet of accuracy is way too low. You can assume that the character you're controlling is trained in the use of the weapon you have, plus extensive training in gun firing all together. With that knowledge and experience, aiming down the sights and firing a SMG shouldn't be all that inaccurate. Sure, going full auto won't give you the pattern the size of a quarter at 50 yards, but you can still hit a target decent enough.
 

holden j caufield

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camping is because they nerfed our health so every joe that picks up this game can get a kill. You've got about half the health of cod4. Before the weak ass p90 would take 5+ shots to kill now it's 3.
 

Stuxnet

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camping is because they nerfed our health so every joe that picks up this game can get a kill. You've got about half the health of cod4. Before the weak ass p90 would take 5+ shots to kill now it's 3.

Yep. I mentioned earlier that regular mode is like Hardcore + HUD from COD4.
 

PimpJuice

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No offense, but the people I normally see complaining about camping are usually the idiots who are sprinting nonstop and running out in the open. Any game where you can get killed with 3 bullets or less, you have to expect a fair bit of stealth. You might think people are camping, but with me, I normally move from spot to spot especially when I have no clue where the enemy is. If I get a glimpse of an enemy or I see them on the radar, thats when I'll make a move to get to them.
 

AstroManLuca

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Just got this yesterday, finally. So far I've only done single player. I guess it's epic enough, but the story makes no sense and the gameplay is just a repeat of earlier COD games... run through corridors while getting shot by a million infinitely-respawning enemies from all sides while some dude yells at you.

Lowered the difficulty to Recruit so I don't have to die a hundred times to get through each level.
 

DrunkenSano

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I borrowed CoD4 from a friend a week before release to play that campaign since I heard MW2 was a sequel. MW2 sequel seems to make sense to me.
 

Kabob

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They actually don't respawn infinitely in this game.

Yeah, story isn't super great but it was still fun. I saw you online last night and invited you to our game but I figured you were too entranced in the SP to join.
 
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Kev

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Out of the ~150 games I've played, maybe less than 10% don't hit the score limit. If there's stupid campers, you gotta come up with a strategy to flush them out. There's many different ways to do so. Camping isn't any different than it was in COD4.

Not sure why your teams have a problem on Derail. I haven't yet had a game end to time on it yet.

What game modes are you playing? I have had a match hit the score limit on derail maybe 10% of the time. I play TDM. It is the worst as far as action goes.

I still like this map though, cause I usually score in the 20's because I run around in stealth and kill all the other team's campers, unfortunately my team usually camps as well so they barely get any kills.
 

fatpat268

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What game modes are you playing? I have had a match hit the score limit on derail maybe 10% of the time. I play TDM. It is the worst as far as action goes.

I still like this map though, cause I usually score in the 20's because I run around in stealth and kill all the other team's campers, unfortunately my team usually camps as well so they barely get any kills.

I pretty much play ground war and FFA exclusively. Honestly, I've played more TDM on derailed than I have domination.

Basically, I take the fight to the other team if they camp. I haven't seen a whole lot of camping on this map. A lot of teams will foolishly run to the middle of the map in that little ditch under the train. Some will try to stealth their way around the edges of the map. But I hardly ever see anyone camp. Occasionally, there'll be a sniper at one of the rooftops at the ends of the map, but you should be able to sneak your way around them easy enough.

Honestly, derailed is one of my favorite maps... maybe that's just because most others don't know the map too well I guess.
 

purbeast0

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well considering ground war is 12 v 12 and goes to 10,000 pts, and normal TDM is 6 v 6 and goes to 7500, it makes sense you hit the 10,000 mark since there are 12 people on each team. that averages out to only like 8 kills per person, whereas the TDM averages out to about 12 kills a person. keep in mind, you only have 6 targets to shoot at as oppose to 12.

then with FFA, again, you have more than 6 other opponents you are shooting at, and nobody is working together. everyone tries to shoot everyone else they see.

we're talking about TDM (at least I am) since that is the "default" for this game (first one in the list and most played).
 

Kabob

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well considering ground war is 12 v 12 and goes to 10,000 pts, and normal TDM is 6 v 6 and goes to 7500, it makes sense you hit the 10,000 mark since there are 12 people on each team. that averages out to only like 8 kills per person, whereas the TDM averages out to about 12 kills a person. keep in mind, you only have 6 targets to shoot at as oppose to 12.

then with FFA, again, you have more than 6 other opponents you are shooting at, and nobody is working together. everyone tries to shoot everyone else they see.

we're talking about TDM (at least I am) since that is the "default" for this game (first one in the list and most played).

Ground War is 9 vs 9, although it's still a closer ratio of people:score.
 

BoberFett

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Some of the maps are designed for camping it seems, and unless your team has the right build to get around it a group of coordinated campers can't be taken down.

For example, that small city map that has an open area with a little playground. Back in the corner with the parking lot there's a room you can get up to that has a perfect view to any angle of attack. Unless you have smoke and thermal, it is basically impossible to displace them because there they can pick you off from anywhere. There is basically no way to take cover on approach.
 

Stuxnet

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Yeah, you can't compare what you're seeing in FFA and GW to TDM. Apples and oranges.
 
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