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Originally posted by: Ackmed
You have to, or at least we had to carry a certain amount of ammo. 7 mags with at least 28 rounds per. Not 30, because the issued magazines dont always response well when full. The springs get worn out. I cant imagine using a bandoleer for a A4/M4. Perhaps the 249 or 240. Or 203 grenades, they come like that too.

Bandoleers are more for machine guns, such as the 240. My first time over seas, I had to carry my M16, and a 240 on humps. With 600 rounds for my 240, using bandoleers. Talk about heavy and annoying. Four straps around your neck, for an extended period of time sucks. My upcoming third time going over, I still have two weapons. But this time its a M4 and a shotgun, much better.

edit, pick of my 240G with bandoleers of ammo. Livin' the high life...
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Yeah, GI mags aren't the greatest, I took a tactical carbine course and they taught to load up with 28. PMags seem to work fine with 30 but you've gotta whack the hell out of them to insert them on a closed bolt. Curious, can you get an M16A4 w/o the rail in the military? Seems like it's just extra weight with no bling hanging off of it (not much of a fan of rails).

Thanks for the info/pics!

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I think Infinity Ward may be using the term "bandolier" because it sounds cooler than "ammo pouch" or something. I don't have much gun experience, but is it correct that a bandolier is an over-the-shoulder belt, but that magazines are generally stored in pouches around the waist? And both of those things are separate from actual ammo belts used for feeding machine guns?

Not sure why they'd make it an attachment, though. If you carry extra ammo on you, then you'd have less space and weight to put extra grenades... don't see how it would affect putting things on the gun itself. World at War had extended magazines as attachments, but that's different.

Yeah, it would seem more sensible to have it as an accessory or inventory item rather than an attachment. I've heard rumors that MW2 will have extended mags as well but until there's an official release it's all speculation.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: kabob983


Yeah, GI mags aren't the greatest, I took a tactical carbine course and they taught to load up with 28. PMags seem to work fine with 30 but you've gotta whack the hell out of them to insert them on a closed bolt. Curious, can you get an M16A4 w/o the rail in the military? Seems like it's just extra weight with no bling hanging off of it (not much of a fan of rails).

Thanks for the info/pics!

I have a set of tan PMmags. (one in my sig) Before they got so cheap. And yeah, they can be finicky.

Yes, you can get them without rails. But its called the A2. The only people I see ever carrying those are poges, either Army/Air Force. No offense to anyone in the branch. But people who stay on large bases and dont go anywhere, dont get peq-15 or A4s from what Ive seen. Because it would just be wasted resources.
 

Kabob

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: kabob983


Yeah, GI mags aren't the greatest, I took a tactical carbine course and they taught to load up with 28. PMags seem to work fine with 30 but you've gotta whack the hell out of them to insert them on a closed bolt. Curious, can you get an M16A4 w/o the rail in the military? Seems like it's just extra weight with no bling hanging off of it (not much of a fan of rails).

Thanks for the info/pics!

I have a set of tan PMmags. (one in my sig) Before they got so cheap. And yeah, they can be finicky.

Yes, you can get them without rails. But its called the A2. The only people I see ever carrying those are poges, either Army/Air Force. No offense to anyone in the branch. But people who stay on large bases and dont go anywhere, dont get peq-15 or A4s from what Ive seen. Because it would just be wasted resources.

Yeah, the A2 has the permenant carry handle and such, didn't know if any A4's came without the rail. If you're not hanging a light/VFG/laser/etc on it seems like a bit of a waste.

I've had fewer problems with my pmags than my aluminum GI mags.
 

Ackmed

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They all have the handle, but we arent allowed to carry it by the handle. The A4's handle/rear sight does come off though. You have to take it off to put the ACOG on.
 

Kabob

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Yeah, I've got an AR-15 with an A3 receiver. Sold the handle and bought a stand alone rear sight and M68 CCO.
 

YoungGun21

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What are the best preorder deals going on?

I would really like to have this on the 10th, but I'm going to be at school until 4PM or so. Nobody else will be home. That basically rules out shipping does it not? From what I understand, they won't leave the package unattended.
 

Kabob

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If you want it on release day (and not until after 4 PM) Amazon would be my choice. You can get release day delivery and they'll send you a $10 gift card with your purchase (after it ships). Although I think the gift card is only good towards other video game stuff...

Depending on your state's tax you might be better off picking it up locally. Here it's 10% so that's the same amount as the release day delivery cost.
 

YoungGun21

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Originally posted by: kabob983
If you want it on release day (and not until after 4 PM) Amazon would be my choice. You can get release day delivery and they'll send you a $10 gift card with your purchase (after it ships). Although I think the gift card is only good towards other video game stuff...

Depending on your state's tax you might be better off picking it up locally. Here it's 10% so that's the same amount as the release day delivery cost.

UPS usually comes before 4 though I believe. Would they leave it?
 

Kabob

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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Hands-On Impressions (Xbox 360)
TeamXbox MW2 Hands On

With Activision and developer Infinity Ward burning the midnight oil on the next installment in the Call of Duty franchise?subtitled Modern Warfare 2?and the game just a few weeks from release, there?s high expectations for what the two companies have up their sleeves. We?re certainly expecting an immense, immersive single-player campaign and compelling multiplayer action that builds on what they created with the first in the Modern Warfare series?but will there be anything fresh and unique in this second installment?

We found out earlier this week when we were invited to visit Infinity Ward headquarters, just outside Los Angeles, for a look at the game?s third component, Special Ops. The stop was a brief one, but certainly gave us a clear understanding of the intensity and pace that the new mode will provide to players.

Joel Emslie, the game?s lead character artist at Infinity Ward, ran us through a portion of the mode?s action?though he said he was restricted as to what he could discuss about it. For instance, we know from Emslie?s discussions that Special Ops mode will be a standalone section from the main Campaign and multiplayer modes; it won?t have any storyline or narrative of its own; and it?ll be comprised of a number of individual missions (though Emslie stated that he couldn?t indicate the specific number it will contain.) The publisher/developer tandem want to keep most of these finer details a surprise until the November 10 release date.


Entering the room and having a dozen enemy laser sights dancing through the air makes for a nerve-wracking experience.


Just the same, Emslie did give us a guided tour to a few of this mode?s missions, then let us get some hands-on time with it ourselves. But first he started with a taste of the single-player story and gameplay, which immediately gave us a feel for the game?s action. The first mission we were shown was early in the ?first act,? and it started with a surprisingly strong vision: In what seemed to be a cutscene at first?though Emslie indicated it was fully interactive?you?re in a vehicle watching the sidewalk for a meet when you realize that this get-together is about to go very, very wrong. The attendees quickly pull weapons and start firing, taking out one of the key players in the scene?then turn on you and the driver in the car. Emslie claimed that, if you don?t duck when the incoming gunman starts firing at the windshield (which takes out your driver with a bloody mess splashed on the dashboard and the disconcerting blaring of the car horn as he falls forward on the steering wheel, leaving you to fend for yourself), you?ll take a nasty dose of damage before you even get started.

From that point, you?re on wild run through back alleys and building passages as you chase the main bad guys, all the while firing off at attackers popping up on rooftops and in windows and doorways. Every little break in the gunfire, as you?ll search for your next target, is punctuated by reloading and radio chatter, which keeps the anxiety level high?and at this point we were only spectators to Emslie?s romp through the city. It was also highlighted by movie-like shots, such as a enemy gunman that Emslie shot taking a stuntman-esque high dive off the building to the wild ending of the scene as the main character you?re chasing is literally tackled from the second-story ledge and onto the roof of a car by one of your (AI) partners.


Whew?yeah, it?s a new Call of Duty all right.

Emslie then took us to Special Ops, which he said is evolved from single-player levels into a ?third? mode that?s totally separate from the story. He also said playing through all of it will be a little longer than the single-player campaign, and that you can play most of it solo if you choose, though there?ll be a few missions that require you to have a partner. However, it seems that it?s designed to be more fun playing co-op?where you?ll be better off barking at each other where you?re going and how you?re approaching the action; to do otherwise would likely leave one or the other of you waiting for a revive from the teammate as you bleed out.

In the first section, which took place in a Brazil region, you?re tearing through the alleys somewhat similar to the single-player section we were shown, though with the buildings being more smaller single-floor, residential structures. This was filled with gunmen popping out of doorways right into your face and others angling gunfire down on you from low rooftops. When I played it, I wandered far off to the right from Emslie, who I was teamed with, which left me waiting for medical help on the floor after I allowed myself to be surrounded by baddies. He saved me, then needed saving himself as he was unsuccessful in taking out all of the threats before having to save me, but luckily I was able to mop up a little and take the pressure off before reviving him.


There?s increased intensity in the new Modern Warfare title..


That brought up an interesting aspect of Special Ops, that each player can set a different difficulty?sort of like a handicap system, so two players of varied skill levels can still team up, which opens the mode up quite a bit. It can also be played locally (as a split-screen view, which is how we played it in our visit) or online, with each player getting a full-screen view. (It almost seemed a shame, interestingly enough, that you couldn?t get a split-screen perspective in an online session, which helps you know what your teammate is up to in case one or the other needs an assist, militarily or medically.)

It also showed that the objectives of each Special Ops mission is different, with this particular one having the goal of taking out a certain number of enemies?and keeping civilian casualties under a certain number. Yes, there are unarmed people running this way and that, as you?d expect in an urban battle, though you only have a split second to determine whether the guy running at you is a threat or just trying to get clear of the crossfire. The difficulty setting determines the enemy body count and civilian-casualty threshold you need to meet, as well as how many stars you?ll earn for each. Completing missions unlocks access to new missions.

The next Special Ops mission took place in a Russian gulag, an old prison that almost seemed like an crumbling bathhouse, with lots of tiled walls. Though it was difficult to tell from the frantic, confined gameplay, Emslie said that the tile actually causes a lot of wild ricochets that you have to watch for, so your stray shots don?t put you and your teammate at further risk?but also make the enemy threat that much higher, considering all of them shooting at you. The tension peaks when laser beams crisscross through the air, which is becoming a Call of Duty staple, it seems.

This mission has only one objective: get from the starting point to a hole in the floor on the other side of the building. Do you try to pace the trip and pick off each threat as you encounter it, or is the better strategy to make a wild romp through the hallways, stopping only if something is standing in your way and needing some gunfire to relieve it? And even if you can keep your immediate pathway free of threats, there are the catwalks and walkways winding above you that offer the foes a good vantage point to your trek, which you?ll have to pay attention to as you go lest you get severely outnumbered.

Also, when the run through the gulag does get blocked, many times it?s due to riot-shielded enemies standing in your way, who are much harder to clear. It seems you can find an opening to carefully shoot the guy and cause him to move his shield for an easier kill, or maybe it?s better to try to lob a grenade behind his protection?though you?ll need to watch where your teammate is at the time. Again, though, carefully (though hastily) planned strategies with your teammate enable one to flank or circle around a shielded adversaries who?s blocking the other player?s path.

Another mission type had the players out in a large woodsy environment with threats seemingly everywhere. Even playing at ?regular? difficulty seemed to be tough to beat, as there were always crossfires and decently hidden snipers creating situations where there were multiple hazards to deal with at all times. However, the biggest problem came from the Juggernaut?a nasty enemy with a lot of firepower and a lot of armor to protect him. He barrels right at your location, so you don?t have much opportunity to hide behind cover. It seems there are two strategies to taking him out: either stand out in the open and dump a lot of lead on him or?RUN FAST IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!


Ah, a crisp winter day on the battlefield?


As an aside during his first explanation of the Juggernaut, Emslie said that the calm in the Infinity Ward office is often broken by screaming when the Juggernaut makes an appearance in a test game?something that we all laughed in considering. However, when we were faced with actual gameplay that held the threat of a Juggernaut cameo appearance (or two), it suddenly wasn?t a surprise to imagine an uncontrolled yelp escaping our lungs. His debut is accompanied by particular percussion that adds to the tension, much like the trademark ?Jaws? music?and it?s very effective at upping the anxiety of facing one of these behemoths.

The last mode was the fastest-paced, but easiest to describe: It?s a snowmobile ride. Boring, right? Uh, no?it?s a time trial, so you have to tear through the wintery level, trying to control the sled?s skidding on snow and ice and steep inclines on the way to the finish line. Crossing through a gate gives you a few seconds of time off your clock, though it?s always a risk/reward dilemma?do you try to steer a little off your current path, which might put you out of control or into a slowing hazard, or do you just rip in as straight a line as possible to get to the finish? That?ll have to remain a rhetorical question for the time being until we actually get more time with it and figure the best strategy.

As much as Emslie said he wanted to tell us all of the tasty details about Special Ops, he wouldn?t loosen his lips to give us more. When pressed, he did say that the addition of this third mode could be further expanded through DLC, which opened the door to what might come after the game is released?but we haven?t even reached that point yet, so one thing at a time. We?re expecting to get unfettered access to the full game in the next couple of weeks, and we?ll surely bring you those details as we get closer to the game?s ship date. Start exercising your trigger fingers, because you?ll need it.
 

Kabob

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Thanks to R Nilla for finding this.

Amazon has upped the ante again, they're now offering a $15 gift card (for gaming stuff only I think) with the pre-order of MW2. Might be a little incentive for those on the fence.
 

slayer202

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Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Originally posted by: kabob983
If you want it on release day (and not until after 4 PM) Amazon would be my choice. You can get release day delivery and they'll send you a $10 gift card with your purchase (after it ships). Although I think the gift card is only good towards other video game stuff...

Depending on your state's tax you might be better off picking it up locally. Here it's 10% so that's the same amount as the release day delivery cost.

UPS usually comes before 4 though I believe. Would they leave it?

depends where you live. they leave stuff at my house unless it needs to be signed for. not sure what needs to be signed for and what doesnt
 

Kabob

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Had my new "best finish ever" on CoD 4 this morning whilst I couldn't sleep. I was playing standard TDM on Crossfire and my team was losing, I was the only person with a positive kill ratio on my team. It gets down to the end and we're losing 720-700.

Me and my trusty RPD walk behind the central 2 story building, I've got 4 kills in a row and see someone shooting from the broken wall. I kill him and call in an airstrike near the Marine spawn, meanwhile they kill one of my teammates. Airstrike kills 3 guys and I shoot another guy who walks over to said broken wall, we win 750-730. I ended up 36-10 for the game.
 

DrunkenSano

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Those interested on best pre-order deals, keep an eye out between Amazon.com and Walmart, they seem to be having their own version of Modern Warfare. Walmart just upped the ante to $20 gift card with CoD:MW2 purchase.
 

Kabob

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Originally posted by: DrunkenSano
Those interested on best pre-order deals, keep an eye out between Amazon.com and Walmart, they seem to be having their own version of Modern Warfare. Walmart just upped the ante to $20 gift card with CoD:MW2 purchase.

Nice find. Although it's an "eGift card" that you can only spend on their online store. Never used one before.

Originally posted by: TecHNooB
So getting for the PC.. legit! Yarr...

I'd pick it up for a console, they absolutely butchered the PC version. No dedicated servers, no punkbuster, etc.
 

R Nilla

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Originally posted by: DrunkenSano
Those interested on best pre-order deals, keep an eye out between Amazon.com and Walmart, they seem to be having their own version of Modern Warfare. Walmart just upped the ante to $20 gift card with CoD:MW2 purchase.

Amazon has upped their gift card to $20 to match, including the Hardened edition. Let's hope Walmart responds so the deal gets even sweeter.
 

Kabob

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Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: DrunkenSano
Those interested on best pre-order deals, keep an eye out between Amazon.com and Walmart, they seem to be having their own version of Modern Warfare. Walmart just upped the ante to $20 gift card with CoD:MW2 purchase.

Amazon has upped their gift card to $20 to match, including the Hardened edition. Let's hope Walmart responds so the deal gets even sweeter.

Hrm, they must have just done that, I checked earlier when someone said it was up to $20 and it still said $15.
 

Boobs McGee

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Originally posted by: kabob983
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: DrunkenSano
Those interested on best pre-order deals, keep an eye out between Amazon.com and Walmart, they seem to be having their own version of Modern Warfare. Walmart just upped the ante to $20 gift card with CoD:MW2 purchase.

Amazon has upped their gift card to $20 to match, including the Hardened edition. Let's hope Walmart responds so the deal gets even sweeter.

Hrm, they must have just done that, I checked earlier when someone said it was up to $20 and it still said $15.

From Amazon:

Hello from Amazon.com. We are writing to you today because you purchased a copy of either the Standard Edition or the Hardened Edition of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. We recently upgraded the promotional offer for the Standard Edition and Hardened Edition of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 from a $15 Video Game Store Credit to a $20 Video Game Store Credit. This credit will be automatically applied to your account within 2 business days after the item ships. We realize that many of our customers are huge Call of Duty fans, and we?re pleased to thank you for your business with this offer. Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com. Sincerely, Customer Service Department Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com

I pre-ordered it a while ago from their 50% off trade in deal. I traded in a bunch of old games to order the hardened edition for 40 bucks. Now I get a $20 video game credit. Very cool amazon.
 

Jules

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Originally posted by: Kabob


Originally posted by: TecHNooB
So getting for the PC.. legit! Yarr...

I'd pick it up for a console, they absolutely butchered the PC version. No dedicated servers, no punkbuster, etc.


I just picked up the PC version for $46.80 + $20GC and im not sure if i should keep the PC version or swap for the PS3 version. What you guys think?
 

mugs

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Man, Amazon.com is crazy... granted, the $20 discount forces you to make another video game purchase from them... but $20 off a highly anticipated game is crazy. I think the Gamestop guys are going to know why I'm cancelling my preorder... oh well.

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:laugh: When I pre-ordered MW2 I really only did it to get them to shut up and leave me alone... I knew I was going to buy it somewhere anyway. I had asked them if there were any special promos they were doing for preordering MW2, and they said "yeah, it's the only way to guarantee you'll get the game this year." :laugh:

I went back today to cancel the pre-order, which apparently shocked the cashier. He questioned my excuse for canceling (which was a BS excuse, but I shouldn't need to give one anyway), then warned me repeatedly that there's no way I'll play the game this year unless I pre-order. Finally he put my $5 back on my Edge card. He noticed my Edge card was about to expire, so I let him renew it.

I like to shop at Gamestop/EBGames because it's the only dedicated game store around here, but man they make it difficult to keep shopping there. Their stupid corporate performance metrics force the employees to make your shopping experience unpleasant.
 

Kabob

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Originally posted by: mugs
Man, Amazon.com is crazy... granted, the $20 discount forces you to make another video game purchase from them... but $20 off a highly anticipated game is crazy. I think the Gamestop guys are going to know why I'm cancelling my preorder... oh well.

Edit:
:laugh: When I pre-ordered MW2 I really only did it to get them to shut up and leave me alone... I knew I was going to buy it somewhere anyway. I had asked them if there were any special promos they were doing for preordering MW2, and they said "yeah, it's the only way to guarantee you'll get the game this year." :laugh:

I went back today to cancel the pre-order, which apparently shocked the cashier. He questioned my excuse for canceling (which was a BS excuse, but I shouldn't need to give one anyway), then warned me repeatedly that there's no way I'll play the game this year unless I pre-order. Finally he put my $5 back on my Edge card. He noticed my Edge card was about to expire, so I let him renew it.

I like to shop at Gamestop/EBGames because it's the only dedicated game store around here, but man they make it difficult to keep shopping there. Their stupid corporate performance metrics force the employees to make your shopping experience unpleasant.

I cancelled my Forza 3 pre-order a few weeks ago and likewise the cashier was flabberghasted that I wanted to cancel. He then tried to get me to pre-order one of about 6 other games (including PS3 games...I don't own a PS3 but he didn't seem to care). Finally I got my $$ back and departed. They do make it tough.
 

BD2003

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Normally I'd be tempted by the $20 gift card, but that would mean not getting it at midnight from my local gamestop.

Despite the fact that I'm a cheap bastard, I'm basically willing to give up $20 to have a few bleary eyed hours of gaming as soon as I get home.

This game can not come soon enough. If I knew there was a 7-11 breaking street date within 100 miles, I'd drive there in a heartbeat just on the chance theyd have it. I'd even bribe the damn guy behind the counter if that's what it would take.

I dont think I've been this excited about a game since I was 9 years old and super mario bros 3 was coming out.
 

Jack Flash

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Originally posted by: Jules
I just picked up the PC version for $46.80 + $20GC and im not sure if i should keep the PC version or swap for the PS3 version. What you guys think?

There are considerations to be made for both.

I'll do a Pros, Cons and ??? for both platforms.

Playstation 3
+ Resale Potential
+ High likelyhood you'll find online matches;#2 Videogame Preorder on Amazon
- Guaranteed Paid DLC
- Inferior Graphics; Runs at 1024x600 resolution, Lower texture, detail settings
? Dualshock 3 Controller
? Playing Comfort; Couch vs Computer Chair

PC
+ Superior Graphics
+ Steam Integration; Steam benefits like Steam Cloud and Auto-patching
- No Resale Potential; Game must be activated on Steam
? Potentially a shortage of online players at launch; many 'boycotting' game - time will tell
? Mouse and Keyboard Control
? Potential for Paid DLC; InfinityWard 'has no plans at this time' for paid DLC.
? Playing Comfort; Couch vs Computer Chair
 

Kabob

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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: Jules
I just picked up the PC version for $46.80 + $20GC and im not sure if i should keep the PC version or swap for the PS3 version. What you guys think?

There are considerations to be made for both.

I'll do a Pros, Cons and ??? for both platforms.

Playstation 3
+ Resale Potential
+ High likelyhood you'll find online matches;#2 Videogame Preorder on Amazon
- Guaranteed Paid DLC
- Inferior Graphics; Runs at 1024x600 resolution, Lower texture, detail settings
? Dualshock 3 Controller
? Playing Comfort; Couch vs Computer Chair

PC
+ Superior Graphics
+ Steam Integration; Steam benefits like Steam Cloud and Auto-patching
- No Resale Potential; Game must be activated on Steam
? Potentially a shortage of online players at launch; many 'boycotting' game - time will tell
? Mouse and Keyboard Control
? Potential for Paid DLC; InfinityWard 'has no plans at this time' for paid DLC.
? Playing Comfort; Couch vs Computer Chair

Don't forget, the reason there are said boycotting gamers is because the PC version now lacks dedicated servers and punkbuster. I'd put that as a minus.

On another note, I just had a mod change my name and I can't edit my OP so we'll have to figure out another way to add to the players list.
 
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