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PimpJuice

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This is what happens when you play a game for the purpose of accomplishing something rather than just to have fun.

Some people actually find it fun to accomplish something. Who are you to tell people what they should be playing for anyway.
 

digiram

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After about a week of play, I'm really digging this game. It's MW2 with out all the madness, and the ACR is back and deadlier than ever. It's just like the MW2 ACR, maybe even stronger.

I'm definitely using my token to carry this gun into the beginning of each prestige.
 
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After about a week of play, I'm really digging this game. It's MW2 with out all the madness, and the ACR is back and deadlier than ever. It's just like the MW2 ACR, maybe even stronger.

I'm definitely using my token to carry this gun into the beginning of each prestige.

Maps seem a bit too cramped on many of the stages.

And I think there's more madness with killstreaks since those with support packages will always be throwing up UAVs and whatever since you don't lose the count upon death.
 
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Ok, so I checked on my Elite App on PS3 and it shows that I'm a Founder.

However, in the actual game, when I check my emblems/title, there is nothing showing up. Furthermore, I don't even have the emblems/titles for being a premium member.

I wonder if this is because I can't link my PSN account to my Elite account on the COD Elite website (Stuck at 60% profile).

Anyone else in a similar situation?
 

SunnyD

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Going to toss my complaints about this game in - after playing it, I find it inferior in terms of gameplay to black ops. Particularly the latency in the game is god awful horrible. I'm seeing generally about a 2 second delay between me and opposing players, with little to no mitigation of it.

Yeah, I'll admit I'm not great at shooters - especially on consoles, but was able to hold my own on black ops. But in MW3 I seem to be dying, and THEN seeing the guy that kills come around the corner. It's horrible. (And before you all say "well you just suck n00b", I have none of these problems in singleplayer mode).

I also dislike the map layouts. They went out of their way to ensure there were absolutely ZERO viable camping spots and so many blindside spots in the game that you can't move more than about five steps without a bullet in your back.

And finally, respawning issues are even WORSE than black ops was. I think I've respawned right in enemy gun sights probably more times already in the two days I've played the game than I have in the months that I played black ops total.

That said, the graphics and fluidity of the game definitely are improved.
 
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Sixguns

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Ok, so I checked on my Elite App on PS3 and it shows that I'm a Founder.

However, in the actual game, when I check my emblems/title, there is nothing showing up. Furthermore, I don't even have the emblems/titles for being a premium member.

I wonder if this is because I can't link my PSN account to my Elite account on the COD Elite website (Stuck at 60% profile).

Anyone else in a similar situation?

I was having that issue on XBL. Than on saturday I was able to use Elite on my xbox. About an hour later I had my 2 hours of doubl XP and titles/emblems.

I just got the ACR last night but havent used it yet because I only need about 100 kills on my UMP45 to hit the 1000. I plan on doing that before I switch over the the ACR

The Type 95 needs to get fixed already. I hate getting picked off half the map away with one burst. But yet when I am close range with an SMG it takes a whole clip sometimes.
 

Arkaign

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I was having that issue on XBL. Than on saturday I was able to use Elite on my xbox. About an hour later I had my 2 hours of doubl XP and titles/emblems.

I just got the ACR last night but havent used it yet because I only need about 100 kills on my UMP45 to hit the 1000. I plan on doing that before I switch over the the ACR

The Type 95 needs to get fixed already. I hate getting picked off half the map away with one burst. But yet when I am close range with an SMG it takes a whole clip sometimes.

"Cry about it just alittle more and than stop playing the game."
 

BD2003

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for all the shit people gave BLOPS when it came out MW3 seems to be even worse

i find that humorous

Meh. Every cod released since 4 has been both the best and worst in the series, depending on who you ask, when you ask, how you ask, etc. There's no consensus beyond everyone seems to have a soft spot for 4.

So far Im loving it. IMO most of the complaints stem from not being familiar enough with the game, particularly the maps. Once you figure them out, the entire experience feels less random and clicks. So far I'm feeling like this is the best one yet...the variety of MW2 with the balance of blops.

Now....to prestige or not to prestige?
 

Kev

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LOLSPAWNS from this weekend:

* Spawned directly under an enemy care package which dropped on my head and instantly killed me. Actually the funniest thing I've ever seen in this game.
* Game spawned me and an enemy right next to each other, but with him facing me. So he killed me within 1 second. This also happened to a teammate of mine at the same exact time.
* Killed a guy and he literally respawned 10 feet to the left of where I killed him, and he got instant payback.
* Killed some poor bastard 7 times in a row, because the stupid game kept spawning him near me, and I kept changing my hiding spot.


KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK INFINITY WARD!!

I'm considering going back to Black Ops if they don't patch this horseshit.
 

Kev

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Meh. Every cod released since 4 has been both the best and worst in the series, depending on who you ask, when you ask, how you ask, etc. There's no consensus beyond everyone seems to have a soft spot for 4.

So far Im loving it. IMO most of the complaints stem from not being familiar enough with the game, particularly the maps. Once you figure them out, the entire experience feels less random and clicks. So far I'm feeling like this is the best one yet...the variety of MW2 with the balance of blops.

Now....to prestige or not to prestige?

You seem to be one of the few. Seems like a general consensus of frustration with the lag and awful spawning. If they could fix those 2 things, this game would be better than BLOPS. Until that happens, BLOPS is the best in the series.
 

DrunkenSano

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I am loving the game so far too, the lag seems to be local as I haven't experienced the horrendous lag people are talking about. So people must be having some bad experience with connection to whatever host they are linked to with their own ISP. Spawning hasn't been that huge of an issue for me, it's happened to me a few times but not enough for me to complain about. BLOPS to me was a lot worse and I got bored of that game in like a week of playing. So far, MW3 has been fine in my opinion. I really like how they have the option for three different strike packages and also how there are perks you can pick and also perks for your weapon as well.
 

BD2003

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You seem to be one of the few. Seems like a general consensus of frustration with the lag and awful spawning. If they could fix those 2 things, this game would be better than BLOPS. Until that happens, BLOPS is the best in the series.

On this forum, perhaps. Between the other forums I visit and people IRL, the vibe is really positive.

Honestly I just kind of tune out the complaints about lag and spawning. Lag is lag. It's omnipresent, and its not going away. Its an issue in any game you play online and if it's any worse in cod, its only because the pace is so fast that a few ms lower ping actually makes a diff. But it's so widely misunderstood that it's not even worth even discussing IMO. People just don't want to deal with it and I can understand the sentiment. Lag sucks. But it's not a cod problem, the netcode is tried and true and very good. The only thing you can do is get a better connection yourself, and educate yourself on the issue so when a "lag moment" occurs, at least you'll know why, and that makes it sting a little less.

Spawns will seem considerably less random once you know the map. It's that simple. People spawning behind you isn't a problem - its a fundamental part of the design.
 
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Why did they make the "support package" kill streaks not reset upon death?

Seems to just make the game way more hectic with KS rewards going off every 5 seconds.
 

DrunkenSano

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Support package seems geared more towards newer players or players who aren't as good at this game. They can still get some nice kill streaks even if they aren't able to compete with some of the more skilled players, so they still feel rewarded and feel they are contributing to the team with support streaks. It's actually a good package to add to the game, especially for team players.
 

PimpJuice

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On this forum, perhaps. Between the other forums I visit and people IRL, the vibe is really positive.

Honestly I just kind of tune out the complaints about lag and spawning. Lag is lag. It's omnipresent, and its not going away. Its an issue in any game you play online and if it's any worse in cod, its only because the pace is so fast that a few ms lower ping actually makes a diff. But it's so widely misunderstood that it's not even worth even discussing IMO. People just don't want to deal with it and I can understand the sentiment. Lag sucks. But it's not a cod problem, the netcode is tried and true and very good. The only thing you can do is get a better connection yourself, and educate yourself on the issue so when a "lag moment" occurs, at least you'll know why, and that makes it sting a little less.

Spawns will seem considerably less random once you know the map. It's that simple. People spawning behind you isn't a problem - its a fundamental part of the design.

You keep dismissing lag as normal, but the truth is that there are different degrees of lag. Of course all games have lag, but some games manage it better than others. You might not have any issues, but you wont understand it until you have it to the extent that myself and others are seeing it. It has nothing to do with connection speed as my connection is consistent and works great in other games including BLOPS.

We know what lag is, you don't need to define it for us. Most of us have been gaming for years. The same with respawning, its blatantly worse in this game than I've seen. I know you love the game, but c'mon man, you don't have to be a blind apologist when it comes to the spawning.

"People spawning behind you isn't a problem - its a fundamental part of the design."

Quotes like that make no sense. Are you saying they designed it so people would spawn directly behind you?

All said, my experience with lag and spawning has been terrible. Others might enjoy the game and I have no issue with that but don't tell me what I'm seeing is "normal" or "by design".
 

pontifex

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You seem to be one of the few. Seems like a general consensus of frustration with the lag and awful spawning. If they could fix those 2 things, this game would be better than BLOPS. Until that happens, BLOPS is the best in the series.

weren't people bitching about the spawns in blackops also? How is that any better than MW3? I don't get it.


I fired up Black Ops this weekend and played against the bots and the lag/stutter is still there from the release. not as bad, but still present.
 

BD2003

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You keep dismissing lag as normal, but the truth is that there are different degrees of lag. Of course all games have lag, but some games manage it better than others. You might not have any issues, but you wont understand it until you have it to the extent that myself and others are seeing it. It has nothing to do with connection speed as my connection is consistent and works great in other games including BLOPS.

We know what lag is, you don't need to define it for us. Most of us have been gaming for years. The same with respawning, its blatantly worse in this game than I've seen. I know you love the game, but c'mon man, you don't have to be a blind apologist when it comes to the spawning.

"People spawning behind you isn't a problem - its a fundamental part of the design."

Quotes like that make no sense. Are you saying they designed it so people would spawn directly behind you?

All said, my experience with lag and spawning has been terrible. Others might enjoy the game and I have no issue with that but don't tell me what I'm seeing is "normal" or "by design".

Then I have no idea what kind of lag you're experiencing, because I've never experienced anything beyond normal lag in any cod. Maybe Im just lucky. All I know is every time someone actually starts getting specific about the issues they're having, it always explainable by basic lag and nothing more. I've yet to see ANY evidence that the problem is deeper than that beyond anecdotes.

The spawn system has its own logic. It's a balance between getting it done right, getting it done fast, and being fair to everyone. Do I get spawn killed, or do I get the unfair drop on people occasionally? Sure. But not to the extent that it actually bothers me. If there was an alternative system that did it better I'd be all for it, I just don't see that alternative.

You can call me an apologist if you want, but these things simply haven't been issues for me. Not in cod, not in any other game. If these problems had clear solutions Id want to see them implemented, but as much as a shitty spawn or lag bothers me, I can't figure out any way they can do it better without making it worse in another way. Im not oblivious to it, I just accept it.
 

digiram

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Then I have no idea what kind of lag you're experiencing, because I've never experienced anything beyond normal lag in any cod. Maybe Im just lucky. All I know is every time someone actually starts getting specific about the issues they're having, it always explainable by basic lag and nothing more. I've yet to see ANY evidence that the problem is deeper than that beyond anecdotes.

The spawn system has its own logic. It's a balance between getting it done right, getting it done fast, and being fair to everyone. Do I get spawn killed, or do I get the unfair drop on people occasionally? Sure. But not to the extent that it actually bothers me. If there was an alternative system that did it better I'd be all for it, I just don't see that alternative.

You can call me an apologist if you want, but these things simply haven't been issues for me. Not in cod, not in any other game. If these problems had clear solutions Id want to see them implemented, but as much as a shitty spawn or lag bothers me, I can't figure out any way they can do it better without making it worse in another way. Im not oblivious to it, I just accept it.


I agree, when it comes to spawns you either make it random like it is now or you allow one team to be spawn trapped. The latter will force people to just leave the game.
 

BD2003

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I agree, when it comes to spawns you either make it random like it is now or you allow one team to be spawn trapped. The latter will force people to just leave the game.

And in the same vein you can change the hit detection back to server side and you wouldn't have those moments where you duck around cover or shoot someone but still die, especially to someone with a shitty connection. Then you'd just have a delay between pulling the trigger and it firing, and it would just be a worse experience overall for everyone, at all times.

Sometimes it doesn't work out in your favor, but it is the way it is for a reason. It's not a simple matter of "just fix it!".
 
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