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purbeast0

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so i played mk9 demo tonight...

anyone else notice that the button config just does not work?

i cant pass judgement on this till i can get button config setup properly.

it acted as though it was set, but in game it was not ... then i go back to the options and it stilll shows it set right.

talk about fail.
 

Anneka

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Yeah seen it and i think they still have to work on Kratos. On the other hand why is Kratos even in the MK universe ....
 

smackababy

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And just announced they are have that $10 for used copy online activation crap. New copies come with a code.

Looks like I won't be buying this game.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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well if your decision is based on that you weren't going to buy it at launch anyways and would have bought it used later on, which in turn means no $$ for the developers.

they wouldn't have made any money from your "purchase" anyways
 

smackababy

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well if your decision is based on that you weren't going to buy it at launch anyways and would have bought it used later on, which in turn means no $$ for the developers.

they wouldn't have made any money from your "purchase" anyways

My decision is based on this "activation" being total bs. I would have purchased it at launch. I also believe this is going to impact the community more so on fighting games than other games.
 

purbeast0

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My decision is based on this "activation" being total bs. I would have purchased it at launch. I also believe this is going to impact the community more so on fighting games than other games.

i have no clue how something like that can bother you considering you were going to purchase it brand new anyway. just doesn't make any sense.

i doubt it will have any effect on people who were going to purchase this game day 1 anyways. they aren't paying anything extra. i bet most people who purchase it won't even know about this until they open the package.

me personally though, i don't think it is bs at all. i actually am all for it and think it is a good idea.
 

smackababy

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i have no clue how something like that can bother you considering you were going to purchase it brand new anyway. just doesn't make any sense.

i doubt it will have any effect on people who were going to purchase this game day 1 anyways. they aren't paying anything extra. i bet most people who purchase it won't even know about this until they open the package.

me personally though, i don't think it is bs at all. i actually am all for it and think it is a good idea.

It bothers me because I dislike the direction it shows the company is going. I also dislike the precedent it sets for other companies to follow it. Sure, it might not hurt the MK community (all 8 of them) but for other games, it will.
 

purbeast0

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It bothers me because I dislike the direction it shows the company is going. I also dislike the precedent it sets for other companies to follow it. Sure, it might not hurt the MK community (all 8 of them) but for other games, it will.

yea see i just do not understand this viewpoint at all.

the people who were going to buy this game used really don't effect the developers in any manner at all, since the developers were not going to get any money from them purchasing it used anyways. and since they aren't going to be giving money to the developers, i don't think they should even have a say or any input on what they think the developers should do.

i just don't understand how this is a bad precedent they are setting. it is not like they will be losing sales from people who were going to buy the game used anyways, and it doesn't effect the people who were going to buy the game and keep it anyways.

the only way it could effect someone who was going to purchsae it is if they were purchasing it with the intent of reselling it. and again, the developers don't care about what you are going to be doing w/the game and if you sold it used would in a way be taking a customer away from them.

but to each their own!

(and lol at the 8 people playing mk ... probably true haha)
 

smackababy

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You're right it doesn't hurt the people who were going to buy the game new and it helps the developers. However, it doesn't help further grow the fight game community. If someone rents the game, they can't play online. Playing fighting games by yourself isn't very appealing.
 

Crow550

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You're right it doesn't hurt the people who were going to buy the game new and it helps the developers. However, it doesn't help further grow the fight game community. If someone rents the game, they can't play online. Playing fighting games by yourself isn't very appealing.

You could always have friends come over in the flesh & play.
 

smackababy

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You could always have friends come over in the flesh & play.

Can't always have that happen. Plus, most of my friends aren't great and the scene where I live isn't amazing either. Online is a good arena to keep up in practice when you just blow your friends up all the time.

Personally, I just feel this is bad for what little community the fighting scene has.
 

FuryofFive

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Can't always have that happen. Plus, most of my friends aren't great and the scene where I live isn't amazing either. Online is a good arena to keep up in practice when you just blow your friends up all the time.

Personally, I just feel this is bad for what little community the fighting scene has.

wah wah wah...

the online pass goes toward cost to operate the online system. if you dont pay it, why expect to play for free.
but i digress
 

JackBurton

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You're right it doesn't hurt the people who were going to buy the game new and it helps the developers. However, it doesn't help further grow the fight game community. If someone rents the game, they can't play online. Playing fighting games by yourself isn't very appealing.

If someone is renting a fighting game, I wouldn't want to play them anyway. They are going to be noobs. The real players are going to be buying the game.

I actually don't mind the activation. I don't buy used games, and I'd like to see the used game market go away.
 

AstroManLuca

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It bothers me because I dislike the direction it shows the company is going. I also dislike the precedent it sets for other companies to follow it. Sure, it might not hurt the MK community (all 8 of them) but for other games, it will.

Welp, enjoy never buying games new ever again if you refuse to buy games that have activation codes. It won't be long before every major developer does this and "voting with your wallet" won't do anything.

Also I doubt a lot of people who rent the game would care to play online. Seems like the sort of game you'd rent if you're having a game night with friends and want something with local multiplayer. Fighting games are pretty intimidating to play online; the learning curve is too steep even with "easy" ones like MK.
 

smackababy

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1. I know plenty of people who were going to rent this game that would be better than 90% of the people online. I haven't played an MK since UMK3 because I don't like 3D fighting games and I'll be better than most.
2. Wanting the used game market to go away is complete retarded. It does nothing but increase the community playing a game. One person is no longer interested and someone willing to purchase for a lower price does. That helps keep games alive longer.
3. 99% of people who play fighting games online are scrubby. Don't believe me? You're probably bad.
4. Voting with my wallet doesn't mean anything to me. I refuse to pay for terms I don't agree with. If every game starts doing that, I'll play MvC3 for another 10 years.
 

AstroManLuca

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1. I know plenty of people who were going to rent this game that would be better than 90% of the people online. I haven't played an MK since UMK3 because I don't like 3D fighting games and I'll be better than most.

I suppose I do understand wanting to rent the game and try it online first before deciding whether to buy.

2. Wanting the used game market to go away is complete retarded. It does nothing but increase the community playing a game. One person is no longer interested and someone willing to purchase for a lower price does. That helps keep games alive longer.

It's annoying and I don't think it's totally fair given that car makers, movie studios, and record labels aren't freaking out about their respective used markets, but it's not retarded. I would argue that there are ways in which not using activation codes can be a good move in the long term - good long-term support means they can sell more DLC and increase loyalty to the developer and the series. Unfortunately, many publishers only care about the short term and would rather save a few bucks here or there by doing things to curtail the used market.

3. 99% of people who play fighting games online are scrubby. Don't believe me? You're probably bad.

LOL, I don't even play fighting games at all, so I am most assuredly terrible at every single one of them. You sound very uptight about how good you are in comparison to others. Is that common amongst all fighting game enthusiasts?

4. Voting with my wallet doesn't mean anything to me. I refuse to pay for terms I don't agree with. If every game starts doing that, I'll play MvC3 for another 10 years.

Fine, have it your way.

In my earlier post I implied that having codes for online multiplayer was just fine and that I didn't care. But that's not true. I think it's annoying and hurts long-term interest in a game or series. That said, it's happening whether we like it or not. I do not play a whole lot of games online so when I do find an online game I want to play, I guess I'm willing to buy it new rather than used. And perhaps these activation codes will end up driving down the price of used games to the point where it balances out.

Knowing how people tend to do things on eBay and other places, I bet games with intact original activation codes will sell for, on average, much more than $10 more than ones whose original code has been used.
 

purbeast0

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1. I know plenty of people who were going to rent this game that would be better than 90% of the people online. I haven't played an MK since UMK3 because I don't like 3D fighting games and I'll be better than most.
2. Wanting the used game market to go away is complete retarded. It does nothing but increase the community playing a game. One person is no longer interested and someone willing to purchase for a lower price does. That helps keep games alive longer.
3. 99% of people who play fighting games online are scrubby. Don't believe me? You're probably bad.
4. Voting with my wallet doesn't mean anything to me. I refuse to pay for terms I don't agree with. If every game starts doing that, I'll play MvC3 for another 10 years.

1 and 3 kind of contradict eachother. you said earlier that you don't have a local scene really so your only means to play is online.

now in 3 you say 99% of people online are scrubs, but you said you are probably better than most. so i guess you magically fall into that 1%?

also ... mk9 isn't 3d, it's on a 2d plane, not sure why you are talking about 3d mk games.

i mainly play online on ssf4, i'd say 99% of my play time, and it is easy to pick good people to play against and get away from the scrubs. there are PLENTY of good people online, you just sound like you have the attitude that most SRK people do.

and i've also played in local tourneys here (DC/MD/VA scene) and placed in top 3 more than 1 time. i've only been to like 5 tourneys and placed in 3 of them.

and why i'm saying this is because 99% of my play time is online, yet I can hang with local people. i've even had people ask me why don't i play more often locally cause i could be one of the top players in this area, i just don't have time. and i still get beat online plenty against people who know what tey are doing.
 
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smackababy

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I don't have much of a local scene, but there are a few decent players around. Now, 99% of people who play ANY game online are generally not very good at it. This is not just for the fighting game community. I also stated the last MK game I played because IIRC, all the ones between UMK3 and MK9 are 3d.
 

purbeast0

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FYI i just preordered from amazon and you get a $10 credit towards a future purchase.

$1 release date delivery too.
 
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