If by "gave the heat trouble" you mean did exactly what the suns did to dallas, yeah I saw that.
You didn't think dallas looked like they were in trouble in game 7 against san antonio when they were down 3 with less than 40 seconds to go?
Originally posted by: CTrain
Lets put it this way.
Dallas was impressive in every series.
Miami was impressive after the Chicago series.
Did you see how a young energetic team like Chicago gave the Heat trouble ??
If there was any time in the playoff that Miami look like they were in serious trouble was the 5th game during the 3rd quarter.
This was when Chicago trailed by a few pts and Wade went to the locker room.
That was Miami's season right there....but they pulled that game out and the rest was hsitory.
Well, Dallas is just a more talented young energetic team so thats why Dallas will win.
My only arguement for Miami would be they have gained alot more confidence since beating the Bulls.
Agreed, this guy did not watch "all of the playoff" games. If he did, he would have saw that Dallas got LUCKY with a boneheaded foul on Dirk vs SA in Game 7. The Suns beat Dallas at home with 3 guys covering Diaw on that final play in Game 1, rofl. Then they were absolutely bitchslapped by 20 in Game 4 for the worst loss of their ENTIRE SEASON, let alone the playoffs. Then they had to come back down 15 in Game 6 just to beat the Suns. For a team that was supposed to dominate the Suns, they were U-N-I-M-P-R-E-S-S-I-V-E.Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CTrain
Lets put it this way.
Dallas was impressive in every series.
Miami was impressive after the Chicago series.
Did you see how a young energetic team like Chicago gave the Heat trouble ??
If there was any time in the playoff that Miami look like they were in serious trouble was the 5th game during the 3rd quarter.
This was when Chicago trailed by a few pts and Wade went to the locker room.
That was Miami's season right there....but they pulled that game out and the rest was hsitory.
Well, Dallas is just a more talented young energetic team so thats why Dallas will win.
My only arguement for Miami would be they have gained alot more confidence since beating the Bulls.
If by "gave the heat trouble" you mean did exactly what the suns did to dallas, yeah I saw that.
You didn't think dallas looked like they were in trouble in game 7 against san antonio when they were down 3 with less than 40 seconds to go?
Originally posted by: torpid
No, really, you don't get it. No one is complaining about the refs. They are saying that the spurs would have won if one of their players hadn't done something stupid at the last second. The point he was making is that it was incredibly close to being the spurs against phoenix, and in fact if the san antonio player hadn't fouled nowitzki it would have been an easy victory in game 7.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Agreed, this guy did not watch "all of the playoff" games. If he did, he would have saw that Dallas got LUCKY with a boneheaded foul on Dirk vs SA in Game 7. The Suns beat Dallas at home with 3 guys covering Diaw on that final play in Game 1, rofl. Then they were absolutely bitchslapped by 20 in Game 4 for the worst loss of their ENTIRE SEASON, let alone the playoffs. Then they had to come back down 15 in Game 6 just to beat the Suns. For a team that was supposed to dominate the Suns, they were U-N-I-M-P-R-E-S-S-I-V-E.Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CTrain
Lets put it this way.
Dallas was impressive in every series.
Miami was impressive after the Chicago series.
Did you see how a young energetic team like Chicago gave the Heat trouble ??
If there was any time in the playoff that Miami look like they were in serious trouble was the 5th game during the 3rd quarter.
This was when Chicago trailed by a few pts and Wade went to the locker room.
That was Miami's season right there....but they pulled that game out and the rest was hsitory.
Well, Dallas is just a more talented young energetic team so thats why Dallas will win.
My only arguement for Miami would be they have gained alot more confidence since beating the Bulls.
If by "gave the heat trouble" you mean did exactly what the suns did to dallas, yeah I saw that.
You didn't think dallas looked like they were in trouble in game 7 against san antonio when they were down 3 with less than 40 seconds to go?
Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CTrain
This is from an unbiased opinion and I'd say Mavs in 6.
Neither are my favorite and I was rooting to see a Mavs-Heat final.
Heres why I think Mavs will win.
I actually watched just about every game in the playoffs...how many people can honestly say that ???
Trying to argue on who has had a more impressive road to the final is silly.....its more important to concentrate on matchups.
1) Dallas beat Miami in both regular season games and blew them out once.
2) Dallas is so much deeper. Avery isn't afraid to play his 8th, 9th guy and they actually contribute. When both team put in their bench, Dallas will dominate.
3) Dallas is a much quicker team....Miami can't not keep up. Only Wade has the same type of quickness.
Now on Miami side, if Shaq and Wade are on their games, the Heat will win their games but can they win 4 games ??
Watching the Heats, Shaq tend to get into foul trouble too much.
Also I see the Heat relied on 3 players too much...none of their bench impress me.
Mourning is OK.
J Williams doesn't do anything special.
Payton is no where like his old self.
Just overall, watching both teams making their way to the finals, the Mavs just look more impressive.
I watched every game that wasn't on NBA TV.
No one cares about the regular season. Miami is much better now than in the regular season.
Watching both teams making their way, I was more impressed by miami. But that's because I expected the mavs to make it. Actually in that regard, the mavs kind of disappointed me because I expected them to decimate the suns.
Lets put it this way.
Dallas was impressive in every series.
Miami was impressive after the Chicago series.
Did you see how a young energetic team like Chicago gave the Heat trouble ??
If there was any time in the playoff that Miami look like they were in serious trouble was the 5th game during the 3rd quarter.
This was when Chicago trailed by a few pts and Wade went to the locker room.
That was Miami's season right there....but they pulled that game out and the rest was hsitory.
Well, Dallas is just a more talented young energetic team so thats why Dallas will win.
My only arguement for Miami would be they have gained alot more confidence since beating the Bulls.
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Ok lets see, you say in your first post comparing the road to the finals is silly. Then in this post, you do just that. Hmm .. err... ok.
Matchups are important, but neither team is playing this series in a vaccuum. The way they got here, and who they beat, is a HUGE factor.
Originally posted by: wyvrn
If winning in 6 games doesn't impress you, then please tell us what your standards are. Maybe Phoenix will make it next year after they learn to play some defense. Actually, if they did install a defensive system and hired a defensive coach, they could be the absolutely dominating team everyone wants to see. But it's not going to happen as long as they have their current coach (he's good, but so was Don Nelson).
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CTrain
Lets put it this way.
Dallas was impressive in every series.
Miami was impressive after the Chicago series.
Did you see how a young energetic team like Chicago gave the Heat trouble ??
If there was any time in the playoff that Miami look like they were in serious trouble was the 5th game during the 3rd quarter.
This was when Chicago trailed by a few pts and Wade went to the locker room.
That was Miami's season right there....but they pulled that game out and the rest was hsitory.
Well, Dallas is just a more talented young energetic team so thats why Dallas will win.
My only arguement for Miami would be they have gained alot more confidence since beating the Bulls.
If by "gave the heat trouble" you mean did exactly what the suns did to dallas, yeah I saw that.
You didn't think dallas looked like they were in trouble in game 7 against san antonio when they were down 3 with less than 40 seconds to go?
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CTrain
This is from an unbiased opinion and I'd say Mavs in 6.
Neither are my favorite and I was rooting to see a Mavs-Heat final.
Heres why I think Mavs will win.
I actually watched just about every game in the playoffs...how many people can honestly say that ???
Trying to argue on who has had a more impressive road to the final is silly.....its more important to concentrate on matchups.
1) Dallas beat Miami in both regular season games and blew them out once.
2) Dallas is so much deeper. Avery isn't afraid to play his 8th, 9th guy and they actually contribute. When both team put in their bench, Dallas will dominate.
3) Dallas is a much quicker team....Miami can't not keep up. Only Wade has the same type of quickness.
Now on Miami side, if Shaq and Wade are on their games, the Heat will win their games but can they win 4 games ??
Watching the Heats, Shaq tend to get into foul trouble too much.
Also I see the Heat relied on 3 players too much...none of their bench impress me.
Mourning is OK.
J Williams doesn't do anything special.
Payton is no where like his old self.
Just overall, watching both teams making their way to the finals, the Mavs just look more impressive.
I watched every game that wasn't on NBA TV.
No one cares about the regular season. Miami is much better now than in the regular season.
Watching both teams making their way, I was more impressed by miami. But that's because I expected the mavs to make it. Actually in that regard, the mavs kind of disappointed me because I expected them to decimate the suns.
Lets put it this way.
Dallas was impressive in every series.
Miami was impressive after the Chicago series.
Did you see how a young energetic team like Chicago gave the Heat trouble ??
If there was any time in the playoff that Miami look like they were in serious trouble was the 5th game during the 3rd quarter.
This was when Chicago trailed by a few pts and Wade went to the locker room.
That was Miami's season right there....but they pulled that game out and the rest was hsitory.
Well, Dallas is just a more talented young energetic team so thats why Dallas will win.
My only arguement for Miami would be they have gained alot more confidence since beating the Bulls.
Ok lets see, you say in your first post comparing the road to the finals is silly. Then in this post, you do just that. Hmm .. err... ok.
Matchups are important, but neither team is playing this series in a vaccuum. The way they got here, and who they beat, is a HUGE factor.
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: wyvrn
If winning in 6 games doesn't impress you, then please tell us what your standards are. Maybe Phoenix will make it next year after they learn to play some defense. Actually, if they did install a defensive system and hired a defensive coach, they could be the absolutely dominating team everyone wants to see. But it's not going to happen as long as they have their current coach (he's good, but so was Don Nelson).
Come on now. Both you and I thought dallas was going to win this series easily. I think we both can admit that phoenix played them a lot tougher than we expected.
$5 Paypal for Miami bro.Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
It doesn't matter. Mavs in 6 games. Mark my words Rob. Want to make a bet?
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
$5 Paypal for Miami bro.Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
It doesn't matter. Mavs in 6 games. Mark my words Rob. Want to make a bet?
Originally posted by: jcuadrado
It's so ridiculous to predict and say who's going to win because of this or because of that...the fact is WE DON'T KNOW SQUAT....
Nobody expected the Heat to beat the Pistons yet they did...for whatever reasons...no one expected the Mavs to beat the Spurs...yet for whatever reason they did (manu)...
so sit back...enjoy the series...it should be a good one....there are a bunch of talented players on both teams. Drink some beer...cook up some steaks and root for a great series.
Oh..and btw...Heat in 6 lol...bwahahahah...wait....bwahahaha...(I crack myself up)
Originally posted by: torpid
I expected the mavs to beat the spurs. So did a lot of analysts.
Sounds pretty logical to me. :beer:Originally posted by: jcuadrado
Originally posted by: torpid
I expected the mavs to beat the spurs. So did a lot of analysts.
you and those analysts were in the minority...plus...while I hate to get into this discussion..that game 7 win should have an asterisk on it
Some people keep preaching that the Mavs will run run run and the Heat won't keep up....hmm..the Heat beat a run and gun team (Chicago) just fine...sure they went 4-2 but so what...that's only 1 game better than 4-1...not a HUGE deal...also..the Heat took the Nets who were arguably the hottest team in the NBA...Kidd, Jefferson and Carter I would say are pretty damn good at running and gunning...then the Heat beat the Pistons (which nobody thought would happen)...who have a pretty good backcourt with Hamilton and Billups running up and down the court.
So in my opinion it's foolish to say that the Mavs will beat the Heat because they run faster? That's stupid. It's going to be a good series...that's it end of story. Who's going to win? Who the hell knows...what's important to me is ShaqD....he's been to the show a bunch of times...and so has Riley who right now is a better coach than Avery (though he's pretty good) and the best player on the court - Wade. IF these two are on...party over the Heat win. If they faulter and Nowitski is on...forget it..the Mavs win.
Originally posted by: z42
I'm taking the Mavs in 5. Why you ask?
I have been a GSWarriors fan for 20+ years. One of the most frustrating guys I have ever watched is E Dampier. The guy just wouldn't work hard with 2 notable exceptions. When his contract year came up, and whenever he played Shaq. As terrible as the Warriors have been, they have always held their own against the Lakers when Damp played vs. Shaq. And he usually did a great job on D with no help. He'd man up against Shaq and usually hold him to around 18 and 8. This is when Shaq was in his prime too. And he would rarely foul out.
As things are now, Damp is still in his prime and Shaq is hurting and has lost some mobility. I fully expect Damp to keep Shaq's contribution to a minimum with out any help and as a result the rest of the Heat will not get a lot of open looks like they are used to. Wade will still get his, and Shaq will still do ok, but I think this will be a fairly lopsided finals.
Originally posted by: jcuadrado
Originally posted by: torpid
I expected the mavs to beat the spurs. So did a lot of analysts.
you and those analysts were in the minority...plus...while I hate to get into this discussion..that game 7 win should have an asterisk on it
Some people keep preaching that the Mavs will run run run and the Heat won't keep up....hmm..the Heat beat a run and gun team (Chicago) just fine...sure they went 4-2 but so what...that's only 1 game better than 4-1...not a HUGE deal...also..the Heat took the Nets who were arguably the hottest team in the NBA...Kidd, Jefferson and Carter I would say are pretty damn good at running and gunning...then the Heat beat the Pistons (which nobody thought would happen)...who have a pretty good backcourt with Hamilton and Billups running up and down the court.
So in my opinion it's foolish to say that the Mavs will beat the Heat because they run faster? That's stupid. It's going to be a good series...that's it end of story. Who's going to win? Who the hell knows...what's important to me is ShaqD....he's been to the show a bunch of times...and so has Riley who right now is a better coach than Avery (though he's pretty good) and the best player on the court - Wade. IF these two are on...party over the Heat win. If they faulter and Nowitski is on...forget it..the Mavs win.