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Hacp

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I think Lebron to Chicago makes sense. I think him and Noah secretly like eachother - They would be an instant contender for the title. Maybe Rose and Noah = Pippen and Rodman?

Plus they have a coaching vacancy so they can get whoever Lebron wants.

Though that would create less parity in a league that's already very low on it. How many sweeps in the playoffs so far? 4? Hawks/Magic was a godawful series.

How does it make sense? Chicago is Jordan's team. Just like LA is Kobe's team. James needs a team to call his own. That would be New York. No one gives a rat's face about Cleveland. They're best known for the Drew Carey show.
 

slayer202

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How does it make sense? Chicago is Jordan's team. Just like LA is Kobe's team. James needs a team to call his own. That would be New York. No one gives a rat's face about Cleveland. They're best known for the Drew Carey show.

How about a semi-new team, the Brooklyn Nets?

They've got some decent young talent, Brook Lopez being the most legit option. Spend 2 years in Newark hanging with Jay Z and then move it to the BK.

Personally I think I'd like to see the knicks. LBJ in the big apple would just be awesome. I'd take him on my bulls too though. Wade would work too
 

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How does it make sense? Chicago is Jordan's team. Just like LA is Kobe's team. James needs a team to call his own. That would be New York. No one gives a rat's face about Cleveland. They're best known for the Drew Carey show.

You know Jordan's not playing anymore right?

Chicago may be Jordan's team, but teams like the Lakers and Knicks have a pretty rich basketball history already themselves. The Lakers more so than the knicks - Right now the Lakers are Kobe's team, yes, but before him there were 10+ other superstars who wore Laker's Jersey. Lebron's 'team to call his own' was Cleveland, and it didn't work out so well. They had 5-6 years to add pieces around him and they failed every year.

Chicago already has two great players better than anyone they ever put around Lebron in Rose and Noah. Chicago has a lot of other good pieces too. And like I said they could have Lebron have his choice of coach...he likes Calapari i guess? If he goes to Chicago they could win a championship the first year. The fact that Jordan played there in the past should be irrelevant now, he just needs to pick the team where he has the best chance of winning. And that just happens to be Jordan's old team. That's why Chicago makes sense.

Knicks have been a joke for a long time. I don't see why he would want to carry a team on his back again. Though I do like D'antoni - Maybe D'antoni will coach the Bulls if Lebron goes there.
 
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JJChicken

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The media so damn funny. The cavaliers are are good team. The reason they lost was LeBron playing poorly. But nooooooooooooo, blame the coach, blame the supporting staff. For christ's sake, Mo Williams had 20 points in the first half of game 6.

LeBron is not a great player. He is a stat stuffer, he inflates his rebounds by stealing them from his teammates (literally grabbing from their hands, or they get out of the way so he can take them). He gets his assists up high because he is a ballhog and the offense runs through him. He travels into the lane on most drives. The only good things he has (which are very good) are his athleticism and his improved shooting.

As far as I'm concerned, Dwayne Wade is twenty times better than LeBron. Kobe as well. LeBron is an arrogrant, overrated player.

Peace out.
 

JJChicken

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You know Jordan's not playing anymore right?

Chicago may be Jordan's team, but teams like the Lakers and Knicks have a pretty rich basketball history already themselves. The Lakers more so than the knicks - Right now the Lakers are Kobe's team, yes, but before him there were 10+ other superstars who wore Laker's Jersey. Lebron's 'team to call his own' was Cleveland, and it didn't work out so well. They had 5-6 years to add pieces around him and they failed every year.

Chicago already has two great players better than anyone they ever put around Lebron in Rose and Noah. Chicago has a lot of other good pieces too. And like I said they could have Lebron have his choice of coach...he likes Calapari i guess? If he goes to Chicago they could win a championship the first year. The fact that Jordan played there in the past should be irrelevant now, he just needs to pick the team where he has the best chance of winning. And that just happens to be Jordan's old team. That's why Chicago makes sense.

Knicks have been a joke for a long time. I don't see why he would want to carry a team on his back again. Though I do like D'antoni - Maybe D'antoni will coach the Bulls if Lebron goes there.

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fustercluck

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The media so damn funny. The cavaliers are are good team. The reason they lost was LeBron playing poorly. But nooooooooooooo, blame the coach, blame the supporting staff. For christ's sake, Mo Williams had 20 points in the first half of game 6.

LeBron is not a great player. He is a stat stuffer, he inflates his rebounds by stealing them from his teammates (literally grabbing from their hands, or they get out of the way so he can take them). He gets his assists up high because he is a ballhog and the offense runs through him. He travels into the lane on most drives. The only good things he has (which are very good) are his athleticism and his improved shooting.

As far as I'm concerned, Dwayne Wade is twenty times better than LeBron. Kobe as well. LeBron is an arrogrant, overrated player.

Peace out.

Ahh, the Cavs lost because of Lebron? - I disagree even though he was not up to his usual self. He steals rebounds from his own players? Huh, I guess he wants it more than everyone else. Also if his teammate rebounds the ball and Lebron takes it after you know that doesn't give Lebron the rebound stat right?

He did have a triple double also. Which is how many triple doubles in the playoffs for him now? Heck I dunno. He has a lot though. And in there he had 19 rebounds. I'm sure the other team just let him have them all, though.../sarc

Yeah Mo Williams did have 20 points in the first half, impressive. How many did he get in the second half...2. Still, 22 points not a bad game.

He can't be too much of a ballhog if he gets 10+ assists every night. And that's just when his teammates make the shot after he passes, which is pretty rare. Plus he's the back to back MVP so it's expected for him to be in control of the ball most of the game.

Buuuut, all that said, I understand why it's on him that the Cavs didn't win. He's the superstar and he didn't reach his goal in Cleveland. Don't see him winning a title in Cleveland though. He needs a new team in a new place.
 

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Lol, wow. I thought the Magic were coming back. But no.

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it's quite obvious howard has ZERO offensive skills whatsoever. stop trying to turn him into a first scoring option.
howard should just focus on defense, rebounding, put backs and the occasional alley oop.

he's a more graceful and agile version of shaq, without the benefit of shaq's bulk to steamroll defenders as he makes his way to the rim.
both have no shooting ability or post moves and can't shoot free throws.
both think that they're superman. heck, howard is even following shaq's footsteps by making crappy movies.
 
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JMapleton

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Everyone online and offline is laughing at me because I've said Celtics all the way since December.

Keep laughing we'll see. They're going all the way.
 

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Interesting how Lebron plays on a team loaded with talent, yet, when they lose, it's because he has a poor supporting cast.
 
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Terrible game by the Magic. Yet despite that they still managed to get it close at the end.

If the Magic play that bad the entire series they deserve to lose. If they don't the Celtics better be concerned.
 

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I didn't watch the game but I could have told you why Orlando lost by looking at the box score. They live and die by the three. They were 5-22 from three point range. That's their entire game. Get 4 shooters to spread the floor and give Howard room to work. If they aren't hitting that night they are done.

Shooting 23% from three point land isn't going to cut it when so many of your shots are from there.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Interesting how Lebron plays on a team loaded with talent, yet, when they lose, it's because he has a poor supporting cast.

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Cav's had the worst "supporting cast" of any of the 8 teams in that round.

Seems the majority of pundits are laying much of the blame on LBJ; moreso than his "supporting cast".
 

JJChicken

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I didn't watch the game but I could have told you why Orlando lost by looking at the box score. They live and die by the three. They were 5-22 from three point range. That's their entire game. Get 4 shooters to spread the floor and give Howard room to work. If they aren't hitting that night they are done.

Shooting 23% from three point land isn't going to cut it when so many of your shots are from there.

I think the bigger reason was that Howard couldn't find his touch offensively. TO be honest, he hasn't played that great this post-season. Once he gets it going, the celtics are going to have close in more on him, play the passing lanes around the key. This should open up the three-point opportunities.
 

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Cav's had the worst "supporting cast" of any of the 8 teams in that round.

Seems the majority of pundits are laying much of the blame on LBJ; moreso than his "supporting cast".

I disagree. Boston probably has the most experienced and talented players in the East. But outside of that Cleveland has a decent team. They have a high energy/hustle 7'er in Varejao. A finese 7'er in Big Z, and a pure brute player in Shaq. They've got one of the most robust 5 position rotations in the league outside of LA. Mo Williams is a streaky guy that can easily light up and drop 30 points a game. Jamison was an All star player in Washington but they don't run any plays for him. Anthony Parker is one of the best three point shooters in the league. Moon was a great energy guy off the bench. And of course you have a bit of talent in a guy with the last name James.

James had a cool arrogance to him that wasn't working. He needed to be mad. Furious. Embarassed they lost. Pass that anger and motivation off to his team. He didn't. That's one part.

The other part is that the last couple years have proven that Mike Brown has no clue how to coach a team in the playoffs. His rotations and matchup handling were horrible. Plus he didn't have the hearts of his players. They shut down on him the last couple minutes of game 6.
 

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Cav's had the worst "supporting cast" of any of the 8 teams in that round.

Seems the majority of pundits are laying much of the blame on LBJ; moreso than his "supporting cast".

The Cav's supporting cast is good, but not great. I have no idea why they got Jamison when they should have gone after Stoudemire.

The problem I see with the Cavs is that they do not have a 2nd All-Star caliber player. I can recall maybe a team or two that may have won the championship that had a single All-Star, it takes a team to win a championship. As good as LeBron is, he can't do it all by himself.

If he truly wants a championship, he will leave Cleveland and go to a place that will have another solid All-Star player or he will just be stuck in mediocrity in Cleveland.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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I disagree. Boston probably has the most experienced and talented players in the East. But outside of that Cleveland has a decent team. They have a high energy/hustle 7'er in Varejao. A finese 7'er in Big Z, and a pure brute player in Shaq. They've got one of the most robust 5 position rotations in the league outside of LA. Mo Williams is a streaky guy that can easily light up and drop 30 points a game. Jamison was an All star player in Washington but they don't run any plays for him. Anthony Parker is one of the best three point shooters in the league. Moon was a great energy guy off the bench. And of course you have a bit of talent in a guy with the last name James.

James had a cool arrogance to him that wasn't working. He needed to be mad. Furious. Embarassed they lost. Pass that anger and motivation off to his team. He didn't. That's one part.

The other part is that the last couple years have proven that Mike Brown has no clue how to coach a team in the playoffs. His rotations and matchup handling were horrible. Plus he didn't have the hearts of his players. They shut down on him the last couple minutes of game 6.

If you took the top player away from each of the teams in the Conf. Semis, I think the Cavs would field the worst team. Shaq is a liability to their style of play. Mo is streaky, Antawn is on the back 9 and has never been a winner, Z is close to the end (although I thought he should have played more vs Boston), West has emotional issues which hamper his play, Parker is decent (though overrated) defensively and hits 3's but is otherwise limited, and Moon is a dunker and not much else. Each of the Conf. Semis teams have at least 3 players I'd take ahead of any Cavs besides LBJ. All that said, they had enough to beat the C's, had they played with heart.

Funny that you use the word "cool" do describe LBJ's attitude in the series. I used the same term yesterday when complaining about him. "Too cool to play desperate" is what I said.

Brown's gotta go. The coach can't come back after that kind of debacle, can he? I mean, forget Doc Rivers, Brown was outcoached by the Celtics players.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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The Cav's supporting cast is good, but not great. I have no idea why they got Jamison when they should have gone after Stoudemire.

The problem I see with the Cavs is that they do not have a 2nd All-Star caliber player. I can recall maybe a team or two that may have won the championship that had a single All-Star, it takes a team to win a championship. As good as LeBron is, he can't do it all by himself.

If he truly wants a championship, he will leave Cleveland and go to a place that will have another solid All-Star player or he will just be stuck in mediocrity in Cleveland.

Shaq and Amare don't like each other.

I don't think things are that bleak in Cleveland if LBJ stays. Shaq will be gone. Mike Brown will almost surely be replaced with a better coach. I'd (almost) be willing to bet my house that if Brown coached the Celts and Doc coached the Cavs, we'd be watching Orland-Cleveland. And Doc's not even a "great" coach. If the Cavs could sign a decently athletic, decently skilled big (think Nene Hilario) they would be set.
 
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