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mcmilljb

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I think Ohio St. and UNC were tougher than any team left in the tournament at this point. Hell, I think I'm scared more about possibly facing VCU in a final game than I am about UConn.

What? I think you're drinking a little too much koolaid if you think UNC was one of the toughest teams left. I expect a good game between UConn and Kentucky unlike the first time this season. Just in case you forgot - http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303280096

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCIJ06uC-jQ
 
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What? I think you're drinking a little too much koolaid if you think UNC was one of the toughest teams left. I expect a good game between UConn and Kentucky unlike the first time this season. Just in case you forgot - http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303280096

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCIJ06uC-jQ

I didn't forget, but that was at the beginning of the season a half a world away (in Maui). I never said UConn wasn't playing great right now, but I like UK's chances against them, earlier results be damned. That Maui tournament was Kemba's coming-out party, I would like to think UK will have a better answer for him now. Probably not, but I like to think it.
 

Ertaz

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Jul 26, 2004
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I didn't forget, but that was at the beginning of the season a half a world away (in Maui). I never said UConn wasn't playing great right now, but I like UK's chances against them, earlier results be damned. That Maui tournament was Kemba's coming-out party, I would like to think UK will have a better answer for him now. Probably not, but I like to think it.

Make DeAndre Liggins guard Kimba the whole game. Make the rest of that team beat you.
 

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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Make DeAndre Liggins guard Kimba the whole game. Make the rest of that team beat you.

If you contain Kimba Walker you have a very good chance at winning. It's what Louisville's defense did to beat them twice in the regular season.
 

SP33Demon

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What? I think you're drinking a little too much koolaid if you think UNC was one of the toughest teams left. I expect a good game between UConn and Kentucky unlike the first time this season. Just in case you forgot - http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303280096

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCIJ06uC-jQ

Nice highlight reel, love the game winner vs Pitt where he broke McGhee's ankles with the step-back.

I doubt UConn will blow out UK like that this time, but I would never bet against Kemba, Lamb and Oriaki right now. Brandon Knight and Harrelson are good, but Lamb and Kemba can literally score at will if they want and have proved it.

VCU, just amazing. Apparently one of the Morris twins felt the need to talk a little smack before the game. Not very smart.

VCU guard Joey Rodriguez counted one of Kansas' vaunted Morris twins — Marcus or Markieff — as one of those many doubters. During a pregame captains meeting with officials, Rodriguez said one of the brothers offered him some parting words: "The run ends here."

"We'll see," Rodriguez shot back.
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"Probably the best game they played ever," Markieff said. "Probably the best game ever as a school tonight. We let them. We let them beat us."

The funny thing is that Morris is wrong: VCU's best players didn't even have that great of a day, Rodriguez and Burgess only had 9 points and average double digits per game. In VCU's most dominant game that mattered against George Mason during the CAA tourney, they shot 48% FG (24-50) vs 39.6% yesterday, and got to the line 7 more times than yesterday.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=310652244

Rodriguez had 13, Burgess 16, and Skeen 21 in that game. Even stranger is that Mason blew them out by 20 earlier in the year. The next game, however, VCU lost to ODU. The key? ODU outrebounded them 46-21 and kept them off the FT line (17 times vs 20+ when they win). Outrebound VCU and don't foul if you want to beat them. Kansas outrebounded them by 10, but shot 15-28 from the FT line and that's the game right there. FSU outrebounded them by 17 but shot 26-71 (36%) FG%. Purdue only outrebounded them by 5, but turned it over 3 more times and were blown out. G-Town outrebounded them by 10 but put them on the line a whopping 39 times. USC didn't outrebound them and had more turnovers, nuff said.

Looking at Butler's key wins: against ODU, they took away ODU's strength of rebounding and won (Butler +1 on the glass). Had ODU gotten its normal +11 rebounds per game, Butler would have lost... but it didn't happen. Against Pitt, they were outrebounded by 10 but were +4 on turnovers in a very tight game because they allowed Pitt to shoot an ungodly 57% FG and 55% 3pt. Wisc, they outrebounded them by 7. Against Florida, they outrebounded them by +3. In Butler's other losses, they either lose if they're outrebounded and/or minus on turnovers.

All in all, I have to give the edge to Butler since I'm pretty sure they will outrebound VCU which is present in all of VCU's losses. They will need every one of those extra rebounds to score in the paint because Butler is not a great 3pt shooting team. If it comes down to 3pt shooting, the edge has to go to VCU which has always been how they neutralize getting outrebounded. Nonetheless, it will be a fascinating matchup and probably come down to the wire since both teams have different strengths that neutralize the other.

Butler will have to build a lead early and keep VCU out of striking range with their deadly 3pt shot, that's how Mason and ODU beat them, by staying ahead the entire game and keeping their cushion. If VCU ties it or gets close, then you're in trouble. Once VCU gets the lead for a prolonged amount of time, they seem to get even more confident and the only team to come back on them all year was FSU. Since Butler doesn't have as good a defense, they better make sure they don't let VCU ever get ahead or it's an uphill battle vs that 3point shooting.
 
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D1gger

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Wow! I knew I didn't know much about NCAA basketball, and I have officially proved it. Dead last in the ATOT fantasy bracket (except for the guys who registered but didn't actually complete a bracket) and not a single team in the final four. I've been pwned.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Wow! I knew I didn't know much about NCAA basketball, and I have officially proved it. Dead last in the ATOT fantasy bracket (except for the guys who registered but didn't actually complete a bracket) and not a single team in the final four. I've been pwned.

Dam, they should give you an award for last. hehe

If KY can knock off UConn I'll stay tied for 3rd with trmiv/pat. Although I have a strange feeling it'll be VCU/UConn in the Final.
 

zzuupp

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Jul 6, 2008
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Wow! I knew I didn't know much about NCAA basketball, and I have officially proved it. Dead last in the ATOT fantasy bracket (except for the guys who registered but didn't actually complete a bracket) and not a single team in the final four. I've been pwned.

The USS Nef is still afloat only because I used my 'work lotto' stragery.

I'm in ACC land, taking Duke or UNC wasn't going to win the pool (for me).

I bet on UCONN's streak continuing.

All I can say is, so far I'm still afloat.

At work, If the puppies beat the kittens, I'll at least break even.

Thankfully, no VCU alum took them all the way.
 

Ertaz

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It' like a Holiday here now. (Wildcat Ramadan?) If the Wildcats win it will be pandemonium for the entire off-season. If not, well then this team will still be remembered for what they've done.
 

fustercluck

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Women's hoops are a lot easier to pick - Got murdered on all my NCAA Men's brackets but doing well in the Women's Bracket (47 our of 60 points).
 

IndyColtsFan

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In related tournament news, Jennifer Hudson will not be doing "One Shining Moment" this year. They're going back and using Luther Vandross' last performance.
 

zzuupp

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Jul 6, 2008
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In related tournament news, Jennifer Hudson will not be doing "One Shining Moment" this year. They're going back and using Luther Vandross' last performance.

I heard that on the radio today, too.


Maybe I'm just noticing them now, but it sure seems that I've seen alot more VCU apparel worn down here.

I'm rooting for VCU, but if Butler wins. I won't complain, and I hope they win it all!
 

fustercluck

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I foresee UK and VCU in the final with UK winning

I wish some of those basketball analysts would just admit they were wrong about VCU. They're still saying Colorado deserved to be in more. Eat your damn crow already (ahem, Jay Bilas...whom I think is really smart most of the time.)
 
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IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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I foresee UK and VCU in the final with UK winning

I wish some of those basketball analysts would just admit they were wrong about VCU. They're still saying Colorado deserved to be in more. Eat your damn crow already (ahem, Jay Bilas...whom I think is really smart most of the time.)

I would prefer that just about anyone except Kentucky win it. My wife is a Butler grad so obviously I am rooting for Butler.
 

rcpratt

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Jul 2, 2009
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My preferences:

UCONN > Butler > Kentucky > VCU.

Wow, I can't believe I just put a Big East team ahead of everyone else.

I won't be watching Monday if VCU wins today.
 

BrokenVisage

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Jan 29, 2005
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Just need UCONN to win in order to win my pool. I actually ripped up my sheet when Texas and Pitt lost, guess that was a little premature since I'm gaurenteed 2nd place at worst now.

Rooting for Butler to win it all though.
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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Some sorry ass stole my UK flag (including the pole) from the front of my damn house this afternoon. Sorry mother fuckers!!!
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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Lol cat fans. That's pretty low.

There will be another one bought tomorrow and chained to my house. First time since 98 that I've pulled the flag, which was hanging inside my garage, to hang on the flag pole outside.
 

MikeMike

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Feb 6, 2000
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ugh, fucking UK fans... my cousin lives around there and is a cat's fan... of course after they beat OSU i get 'go cats' on my facebook wall...

they should have replaced it with a UConn flag...
 

Ballatician

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anyone got a stream link for the final 4 tonight? 2nd game ill probably go out for but really want to watch the first as well...would really appreciate it. thanks!
 

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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Given vcu's defense I'd rather see the cats face butler. Pulling for butler. He'll of a game so far.

Vcu d ain't no joke from what I'm seeing.
 

ElFenix

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skeen wasn't touched at all there, shouldn't have been a foul.
 
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