OFFICIAL NFL 2012 week 7 thread

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BUTCH1

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the patriots had no business being in the superbowl last year, and have no business being .500 this year.

Yea, they had business being in the SB last year, if I recall they won 2 playoff games to get there. Remember, the kick that Baltimore missed would have tied that game, not won it. Oh, BTW we are now 4-3..
 

BUTCH1

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I don't think you'll have to worry about them making the SB this year, so rest easy.

Yea, when Shanchez racks up 300+ yds in your house your pass D is godaweful, I don't see this team beating Houston at Houston in a playoff game..
 
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BUTCH1

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if theyd hadnt won it, a lot of people would have said the same thing about the giants

Exactly, the muffed punt was the mother of all playoff gifts followed closely by Billy C shanking the 29yrd FG for the Ravens. Playoff games often come down to a one big play made or one huge untimely mistake..
 

BUTCH1

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When did they get rid of the Brady rule (low hit on QB)?

That was not a low hit on Shanchez, contact was made in the upper thigh area, if he's falling backwards after the initial contact it's not considered a low hit. The rule is in place to penalize diving at a QB's legs while he's throwing and not in a position to protect himself.
 

techs

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So, the Pats are trying to rework the offense so Welker is not a part of it? I think Welker is a goner. He got the big salary in the off season and now the Pats want to unload him.

As to the Pats, wtf is going on? It looked like they had finally addressed their lack of a running game, and at least part of their defense.

But the running game is just forgotten some weeks. Steven Riddley is supposed to be the number one running back, but he is hardly out there. Danny Woodhead is not anyones idea of a number one back, but he seems to get the most snaps.

Their defense looked like it was finally coming around after at least a couple of years of rebuilding via the draft. Yet they are back to no pass rush and defensive backs who are either the worst in the league or are being failed by the lack of a pass rush.

Brady doesn't have many years left at the top of his game. I say I go ahead and trade Welker, trade a couple of draft picks, and get a number one cornerback and a rock'em pass rusher.
 

lupi

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hill needs to get rid of his brickhands, not the first game he's lost because of them.
 

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Some of the Ravens fans that you see online are total lunatics. I had to laugh at this shit:

http://discussions.baltimoresun.com...ed-by-houston-texans-in-4313-loss-20121021/10

During the bye week both Cam and Pees must be fired.

I would put Tyrod Taylor in is mobile and is also a pretty good passer. I watched Tyrod develop over 4 years at Virginia Tech. Initially, he was primarily a runner but developed his passing skills by his senior year.

The combination of an incompetent OC & DC, plus a very-much-overrated Flacco, means this team is going nowhere. Their dominating defense masked offensive ineptitude for years, but now the depleted and greying squad, which can no longer control a game, has left the incredibly inept offense standing there, naked, for all to observe.

It's going to take several years to rebuild, and that's if management even bellies up to the bar and admits, "it's time."

Lose one game and they act like the sky is falling.
 

BUTCH1

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So, the Pats are trying to rework the offense so Welker is not a part of it? I think Welker is a goner. He got the big salary in the off season and now the Pats want to unload him.

As to the Pats, wtf is going on? It looked like they had finally addressed their lack of a running game, and at least part of their defense.

But the running game is just forgotten some weeks. Steven Riddley is supposed to be the number one running back, but he is hardly out there. Danny Woodhead is not anyones idea of a number one back, but he seems to get the most snaps.

Their defense looked like it was finally coming around after at least a couple of years of rebuilding via the draft. Yet they are back to no pass rush and defensive backs who are either the worst in the league or are being failed by the lack of a pass rush.

Brady doesn't have many years left at the top of his game. I say I go ahead and trade Welker, trade a couple of draft picks, and get a number one cornerback and a rock'em pass rusher.

Welker didn't get "big money" in the off-season, he was tagged as a franchise player, a contract was not reached, rules say a "franchised" tagged player he HAS to be paid the average of the top 5 players in the league at that position. Ridley is not "hardly out there" LOL, he is their #1 running back, 17 carries today, Bolden usually spells him but is injured and didn't play today. Woodhead is a third down type of back, small and elusive, difficult to see running behind huge O linemen. The pass rush has been improved but not nearly enough to prevent the DB's from being exposed, starting safety Patrick Chung never lived up to the hype, tries to play like Ed Reed but winds up over-pursuing and injures himself trying to deliver the "big" hit.. They ran for 138yds today, OK but not quite what they want, vs Seattle they ran very little as the 'Hawks are very good against the run and Bolden not present..
 

MetalMat

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What the hell is up with Cam Newton? His post game press conference was pitiful
 

lupi

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Welker didn't get "big money" in the off-season, he was tagged as a franchise player, a contract was not reached, rules say a "franchised" tagged player he HAS to be paid the average of the top 5 players in the league at that position. Ridley is not "hardly out there" LOL, he is their #1 running back, 17 carries today, Bolden usually spells him but is injured and didn't play today. Woodhead is a third down type of back, small and elusive, difficult to see running behind huge O linemen. The pass rush has been improved but not nearly enough to prevent the DB's from being exposed, starting safety Patrick Chung never lived up to the hype, tries to play like Ed Reed but winds up over-pursuing and injures himself trying to deliver the "big" hit.. They ran for 138yds today, OK but not quite what they want, vs Seattle they ran very little as the 'Hawks are very good against the run and Bolden not present..

welker did get big money. they wanted him to sign a long(er) deal where they could have backloaded a significant portion of the money and then axe or trade him in a couple of years.
 

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Seeing Dez Bryant drop 3 passes (usually in the endzone) every week is fun, and he's always looking for a flag if he didn't catch it even though there was obviously no interference.

Poor RGIII played a great game and Washington's defense blew it big time, just awful.

Cam Newton still sucks hard in tight game situations and the red zone.

Oakland almost lost playing at home against the Jaguars without Maurice Jones-Drew
 

BUTCH1

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welker did get big money. they wanted him to sign a long(er) deal where they could have backloaded a significant portion of the money and then axe or trade him in a couple of years.

I didn't know the details of his contract negotiations were made public, in any event they (Pats) would be stupid to lose Welker, pay the man BB and BK, he deserves it.
 
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