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dank69

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As I said last week. Was it Davis/Boldin, Kaep, or the Green Bay defense that allowed Kaep to throw all over them last week?

Fact: RG III (Not a very pocket passer) threw for over 320 yards and 3 TDs on the packers.

And then when Kaep is throwing against a team that is known to have a decent defense. Throws for 127 yards.

Just saying.
RGIII's TDs and yardage came in garbage time, just like last week.

Seattle's secondary is probably the best in the league.
 

diesbudt

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RGIII's TDs and yardage came in garbage time, just like last week.

Seattle's secondary is probably the best in the league.

But if kaep was so good as everyone claimed, and the packers defense didn't suck. It shouldn't matter, he should have at least gotten 200-300 yards throwing easy.

All I am saying is its the entire 49ers team that is good, kaep is good but not as good as week 1 showed. The receivers, the line. The whole thing is a machine. And when against a good defense, he doesn't get much done.

My main point was and still is, the only reason kaep did so well last week was because

1. He is decent-good
2. Boldin and Davis caught everything and had plenty of YAC
3. The Packers secondary is probably bottom 5 this year. Thus bad.

Not just 1, but the combination of the 3 spelled a perfect passing game for kaep in week 1.
 

rudeguy

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As I said last week. Was it Davis/Boldin, Kaep, or the Green Bay defense that allowed Kaep to throw all over them last week?

Fact: RG III (Not a very pocket passer) threw for over 320 yards and 3 TDs on the packers.

And then when Kaep is throwing against a team that is known to have a decent defense. Throws for 127 yards.

Just saying.

and Boldin ends up with zilch. Nothing. Zero.

Bastard (yes I had him starting)
 

Retro Rob

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what a terrible weekend of football

The only 1 oclock game I could watch was the Browns/Ravens. It got so boring I ended up watching youtube videos of endzone dances and player miked up.

Then the Lions were on at 4. Of course they found a way to lose. They suck so bad.

Bush's injury played a lot into that, and they seemed to totally lose their gameplan after he was out, and not to mention, 11 penalties for over 100 yards. I'm willing to bet RGIII is gonna wake up on us next week.

Otherwise, I agree -- but Special Teams really screwed us. Jason Hanson will be missed.
 

rudeguy

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Bush's injury played a lot into that, and they seemed to totally lose their gameplan after he was out, and not to mention, 11 penalties for over 100 yards. I'm willing to bet RGIII gonna wake up on us next week.

Otherwise, I agree -- but Special Teams really screwed us. Jason Hanson will be missed.

They came out playing flat again. I knew we were in trouble when I saw that. Between plays they were just...blah. They were not fired up and it showed. Then on the last drive, they proved they were the same old Lions: 3 and 6 or whatever it was, Stafford throws and 3 yard pass. They dropped it...good! 4th and 6...this time Johnson runs a 3 yard route and catches it. WTF?! What does 3 yards get you? Run the extra 3 yards!!!!

Its the same thing as before. I bet if they could have, they would have kicked a field goal even though they were down by 4.

And yes...I'm mad.
 

lupi

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Funny thing about the lions, assuming bush stays healthy, they really could use another high talent WR.

Maybe Millen was right.



 

Retro Rob

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They came out playing flat again. I knew we were in trouble when I saw that. Between plays they were just...blah. They were not fired up and it showed. Then on the last drive, they proved they were the same old Lions: 3 and 6 or whatever it was, Stafford throws and 3 yard pass. They dropped it...good! 4th and 6...this time Johnson runs a 3 yard route and catches it. WTF?! What does 3 yards get you? Run the extra 3 yards!!!!

Its the same thing as before. I bet if they could have, they would have kicked a field goal even though they were down by 4.

And yes...I'm mad.

LOL exactly!

Yeah, 4th and 6 and you throw it behind the sticks hoping that Burelson can manage the rest.

I was listening to Shep this morning and he said something I totally agree with -- they seem relcutant to go downfield, or to bunch Calvin up and confuse the defense. Obviously, he owned Peterson yesterday so I don't know why they didn't look to exploit that a heck of a lot more, espesically with Bush out.

Yep, we totally blew that.
 

Adrenaline

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Funny thing about the lions, assuming bush stays healthy, they really could use another high talent WR.

Maybe Millen was right.




Bell seems to be able to catch the football, line him up at WR as well on some plays.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Miami:

Week 1: Cleveland
Week 2: Indy
Week 3: Atlanta

Scheduling snafu. They'll be back to normal next week.

I'm not so sure about that to be honest. The Dolphins looked solid and had they brought the heat the entire game against the Colts, I'm not sure it would've been that close. The Colts did lose their starting LG in the game but that's no excuse for the pounding Luck took in the second half. At any rate, barring a major injury, I think the Dolphins are a solid wildcard contender and with the way the Patriots have played so far, it may not be impossible for them to win the division. Tannehill impressed me quite a bit.

Colts have the look of a 7-9 team. I'm hoping I'm wrong and that it will only take a couple of weeks for the new players to gel, but between the offensive line playing like crap and the defense being a sieve, I'm not overly optimistic. Irsay is going to have to spend the bucks to get a top flight defensive coordinator instead of hiring retreads like Larry Coyer (the last one) and Greg Manusky (the current one). When they hired Manusky, I couldn't believe my ears. I didn't think they did enough to address the offensive line issues in the off season but I think they did enough to address many of the defensive issues, so I have to point the finger at Greg Manure-sky.
 
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Retro Rob

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I'm not so sure about that to be honest. The Dolphins looked solid and had they brought the heat the entire game, I'm not sure it would've been that close. Barring a major injury, I think they're a solid wildcard contender and with the way the Patriots have played so far, it may not be impossible for them to win the division. Tannehill impressed me quite a bit.

Colts have the look of a 7-9 team. I'm hoping I'm wrong and that it will only take a couple of weeks for the new players to gel, but between the offensive line playing like crap and the defense being a sieve, I'm not overly optimistic. Irsay is going to have to spend the bucks to get a top flight defensive coordinator instead of hiring retreads like Larry Coyer (the last one) and Greg Manusky (the current one). When they hired Manusky, I couldn't believe my ears.

How 'bout that bet from last year?!?

Both our teams and 1-1.
 

lupi

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Can't really say its cause they are seeing a tougher schedule, as they haven't played any of those types of teams yet. Maybe the QB is missing the previous OC.
 

IndyColtsFan

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How 'bout that bet from last year?!?

Both our teams and 1-1.

With competent coaching, the Lions have the talent to be a perennial playoff team. I didn't think the Lions sucked from a talent perspective last year; I thought they suffered from poor coaching and poor discipline.

I was very honest last year and repeatedly stated that the Colts just happened to be near the top of the large tier of mediocre teams in the NFL last year and were helped by a last place schedule. They're going to regress this year because 1) they're playing a much harder schedule 2) at least at this point, the offensive line doesn't appear to have been sufficiently patched over the offseason. Irsay can keep tweeting his "demands" about getting better on the offensive line, but until they address the issue (whether it is coaching, scheme, or players, I'm not sure), nothing will happen.

The defense has been shockingly bad. Last week, everyone in the world knew EXACTLY what Oakland would do and yet, Pryor ran roughshod over our defense. This week, Tannehill was hitting Wallace and others at will. Manusky is not the answer and was horrible with the Chargers before the Colts hired him.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Can't really say its cause they are seeing a tougher schedule, as they haven't played any of those types of teams yet. Maybe the QB is missing the previous OC.

Luck has played well so far. It is true that they've played what appear to be weaker teams so far, so that means this could be a LONG season. They play San Francisco next week and after the spanking the Niners got last night, they're going to be out for blood next week. I'm not sure I can bear to watch.
 

Retro Rob

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With competent coaching, the Lions have the talent to be a perennial playoff team. I didn't think the Lions sucked from a talent perspective last year; I thought they suffered from poor coaching and poor discipline.

I was very honest last year and repeatedly stated that the Colts just happened to be near the top of the large tier of mediocre teams in the NFL last year and were helped by a last place schedule. They're going to regress this year because 1) they're playing a much harder schedule 2) at least at this point, the offensive line doesn't appear to have been sufficiently patched over the offseason. Irsay can keep tweeting his "demands" about getting better on the offensive line, but until they address the issue (whether it is coaching, scheme, or players, I'm not sure), nothing will happen.

The defense has been shockingly bad. Last week, everyone in the world knew EXACTLY what Oakland would do and yet, Pryor ran roughshod over our defense. This week, Tannehill was hitting Wallace and others at will. Manusky is not the answer and was horrible with the Chargers before the Colts hired him.


I wished I could follow the Colts more, but shucks, when I do see them play, they look awafully tough to put away. That game we played last year, Luck ran roughshod over our defense in the last like 3 minutes.

I can see us finishing somewhere where you put Indy. I don't think Detroit has a lot of talent outside of out skilled positions. Stupid PI penalties exposes the fact that outside of Houston, we simply cannot cover.
 

zinfamous

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Seattle was 8-0 last year at home. They beat the 49ers 42-13 in week 16. I was surprised the 49ers failed to reach 10 points but losing and by a wide margin should not have been a surprise.

I'm not surprised either and I don't really think the game was a dud. Both defenses dominated for one half, then only Seattle kept dominating for the entire game.

It was impressive.
 

Imported

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I'm not surprised either and I don't really think the game was a dud. Both defenses dominated for one half, then only Seattle kept dominating for the entire game.

It was impressive.

Agreed. Was impressive. Think the stat also said the opponents averaged 8 points in their 9 straight home wins.
 

AMDZen

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Broncos thoughts a day later:

- Broncos now have 66 pts in the second half of their two games, the second highest scoring team - the Packers - have 66 points total in two weeks
- Trindon Holliday is the best return man in the game today, AINEC. Could also be the fastest player in the league
- Defense has been good to great despite missing two of its top players, and two of the top 20 defensive players in the NFL

Would like to see how our small but fast defense matches up with a stout offense, perhaps Dallas at Dallas in a few weeks will be a tough test for us depending on how Tony Romo plays.
 

zinfamous

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PEDs will do that for a team.

I think it was more a factor of Seattle's D barely being on the field because of so many 3-and-outs and by the time the 2nd half came around, SF D was winded because it seemed like Wilson had the offense on the field most of those minutes.

SF managed two very decent drives into the redzone, iirc, but they still ended in suckiness
 
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