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SunnyD

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Crazy season. Three of the four undefeated teams are the Redskins, Lions, and Bills (as well as the Packers, which isn't exciting). This is the first time since 1980 that both the Lions and the Bills have started 3-0.

I'm wondering, though, what's the deal with officials holding up the game to figure out meaningless calls? And why do they always seem to take much, much longer to figure out the meaningless calls than the important ones? I remember hearing about a Broncos game a week ago where several players all "caught" the last pass of the game at the same time, it was ruled an interception on the field, and ten minutes later they come out to an empty stadium to announce that the ruling on the field was confirmed. And on the last play of regulation in the Vikings-Lions game, the Vikings tried the whole lateral-shuffle thing which didn't work with the very first lateral being an obvious forward pass. They were tackled well before reaching the end zone, so it's a meaningless call. But despite it being the end of regulation either way, and despite it being a blindingly obvious call even before seeing any instant replay at all, the officials had to take several minutes to review the play and declare it an illegal forward pass.

I guess I can understand for the statisticians out there, but can't they just get the rest of the game underway if the call isn't going to have any effect?

That was the Bills-Raiders game last week, not Browncows. And that had to be reviewed because it was a potential scoring play.
 

IndyColtsFan

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the colts need to compete with the fins, cheifs, and other 0-3 teams for suck for luck sweepstake.

The Colts came dangerously close to making it a two-team race (Dolphins, Chiefs) in the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes. We can't have that happen again!
 

TwiceOver

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I don't know WTF the Vikings are doing in the locker room at halftime, but maybe they should just ride the pine and wait for the other team to come back. Clearly leaving the field is their downfall.
 

AMDZen

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The Colts came dangerously close to making it a two-team race (Dolphins, Chiefs) in the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes. We can't have that happen again!

0-3 and 1-2 teams are all in contention.

Seahawks have the easier division so they might be out before long, they will win games just by sheer accident.

Broncos have the best chance I think, given that our coaches already lost one game (Sunday, easily a gimme to Tenn) regardless of how bad the team is. And we basically gave Cincinatti the game too and they just didn't want it I guess.

Watch, the Colts actually played well last night - the Broncos will be 1-4 soon and so will the Colts. We have @ Green bay and then San Diego next, 2 losses for sure. You guys have TB (loss) then the Chiefs and Bengals. You guys will win at least the Chiefs game

I guess its looking more and more like the Chiefs will be winning this thing
 
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That was the Bills-Raiders game last week, not Browncows. And that had to be reviewed because it was a potential scoring play.

Well the refs have fucked the niners on two straight games... this week they called Crabtree going out of bounds before a TD catch, when replays clearly showed he was inbounds. And the ref was right there.
 

IndyColtsFan

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0-3 and 1-2 teams are all in contention.

Seahawks have the easier division so they might be out before long, they will win games just by sheer accident.

Broncos have the best chance I think, given that our coaches already lost one game (Sunday, easily a gimme to Tenn) regardless of how bad the team is. And we basically gave Cincinatti the game too and they just didn't want it I guess.

Watch, the Colts actually played well last night - the Broncos will be 1-4 soon and so will the Colts. We have @ Green bay and then San Diego next, 2 losses for sure. You guys have TB (loss) then the Chiefs and Bengals. You guys will win at least the Chiefs game

I guess its looking more and more like the Chiefs will be winning this thing

Honestly, I don't think the Colts will win the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes. I've figured for some time that Collins would eventually be solid enough for a few wins. I can see them beating the Chiefs, possibly the Bengals, and maybe the Jags and Titans once each. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they beat Carolina and maybe had one upset along the way too. So, by my count, they might get 6 wins though more realistically, we're probably looking at 3 wins. That probably won't get it done either.
 

zinfamous

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The Colts came dangerously close to making it a two-team race (Dolphins, Chiefs) in the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes. We can't have that happen again!

the Vikings are still winless, right?

to be fair, those 3 teams: Vikes, Chiefs, Dolphins really do need a QB.

not so much the Colts. Plus, I think it would be difficult for Indy to sign Luck.
 

SunnyD

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the Vikings are still winless, right?

to be fair, those 3 teams: Vikes, Chiefs, Dolphins really do need a QB.

not so much the Colts. Plus, I think it would be difficult for Indy to sign Luck.

Henne is actually doing pretty well, it's just his coaches that fucking suck horribly.
 

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I said it in week 2...I'll say it again in week 3...

All aboard the Bills & Lions bandwagon!!!!

 

AMDZen

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Henne is actually doing pretty well, it's just his coaches that fucking suck horribly.

Agreed. Miami has had tough games but they are a solid team, they would have one win this weekend if not for coaching. Same thing with the Broncos.

the Vikings are still winless, right?

to be fair, those 3 teams: Vikes, Chiefs, Dolphins really do need a QB.

not so much the Colts. Plus, I think it would be difficult for Indy to sign Luck.

The Broncos need a QB worse then ever. Clearly we don't want Tebow and Orton is the worst white QB in the entire league hands down
 

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Agreed. Miami has had tough games but they are a solid team, they would have one win this weekend if not for coaching. Same thing with the Broncos.


The Broncos need a QB worse then ever. Clearly we don't want Tebow and Orton is the worst white QB in the entire league hands down

Worse than Henne, Collins, Alex Smith, Cassell, and McKown?

Uhuh.

Orton gets no love from anyone.
 

zinfamous

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The Broncos need a QB worse then ever. Clearly we don't want Tebow and Orton is the worst white QB in the entire league hands down

Orton is fine.

the problem with the Broncos is that the entire state of Colorado still refuses to remove their cocks from the ass of John Elway.

You will never be satisfied.
 

AMDZen

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Worse than Henne, Collins, Alex Smith, Cassell, and McKown?

Uhuh.

Orton gets no love from anyone.

Yes, Henne - this year he is clearly better than Orton without a doubt. I'd rather have him than Orton.

Collins is older than the team he used to play on, and is a stop gap. Doesn't count. But yea, I might still rather have him than Orton.

Alex Smith? Ok He might be worse. Would rather have him just to have someone else suck for a while at least. He should have lost his job ages ago though.

Cassell could be good, he proved it last year under Charlie Weiss and in NE under that system - he has had a couple good seasons at the very least, more than I can say for Orton. Todd Haley is a complete moron and his coaching staff over there rivals one of the worst in the league next to Jacksonville. I'd rather Have Cassel

McCown has already lost the starting job to Gabbert - I was only comparing starters to starters. Everyone knew that was coming it just happened sooner than expected. If anything neither is a starter and their both 2nd string But seriously, Gabbert is at least young as shit and might figure it out. Right now Gabbert is worse but I'd rather have a young guy that might get good rather than a guy starting his 9th season and hasn't figured out how to act under pressure.

Orton is not a starting QB, he is a career backup at best.
 
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AMDZen

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Orton is fine.

the problem with the Broncos is that the entire state of Colorado still refuses to remove their cocks from the ass of John Elway.

You will never be satisfied.

You guys haven't watched enough of Orton and clearly have no idea what you're talking about. He can't react when a play breaks down, can't make decisions under pressure and is by far the slowest QB in the entire league.

This is his last year. He will either lose his job to Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, or we will stick with him and this will be his last year with the Broncos. I bet its his last year as a starter in this league too.
 

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Cassell could be good, he proved it last year under Charlie Weiss and in NE under that system - he has had a couple good seasons at the very least, more than I can say for Orton. Todd Haley is a complete moron and his coaching staff over there rivals one of the worst in the league next to Jacksonville. I'd rather Have Cassel

That was McDaniels doing. And what did he do to Orton? Only got him nearly 4000 yards passing and 21TD's. Right now Denver has no running game, a bunch of no-name receivers (other than lloyd who only exploded last year out of mediocrity) and a horrible defense. That team is in shambles. Orton is the least of your problems.
 

AMDZen

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That was McDaniels doing. And what did he do to Orton? Only got him nearly 4000 yards passing and 21TD's. Right now Denver has no running game, a bunch of no-name receivers (other than lloyd who only exploded last year out of mediocrity) and a horrible defense. That team is in shambles. Orton is the least of your problems.

McDaniels got rid of the only QB this city has rallied around SINCE elway. Cutler was our future and we would most likely be standing by his mistakes rather than Ortons.

And please on the defense, you need to actually watch the games, our defense is awesome the last two weeks and would have handed wins to our offense if they could score from 6 inches out. TWICE this year we have had the ball within the 15 yard line (turnovers by our #1 draft choice Von Miller both times), got within 1 foot and walked away with a FG the first time and nothing the second, going for it on 4th and inches.

We were without Dumervil and Champ Bailey too and our defense was good. We need some help on the D-line stopping the run, for sure. Mcfaddy tore us up week 1 and since then we held Cedric Benson to nothing and CJ to less than nothing.

Yes we have no running game but that was more to do with McDaniels too, ruining the scheme of the oline that was doing better with zone scheme and then drafting Knowshon who is a complete joke. Willis McGahee has actually been doing well.

Orton is slower than molasses and needs a oline equivelant to Tom Brady's to be affective. His so called 4000 yards was more to do with his receivers than him.
 

IndyColtsFan

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if the colts keep Painter in there as their starting QB for the remainder of this season, the sucks for Luck's sweepstake is looking better each week.

And he played AWESOME last night compared to how he usually plays! I almost crapped my pants when he overthrew Garcon on the wide-open TD pass.
 

AMDZen

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if the colts keep Painter in there as their starting QB for the remainder of this season, the sucks for Luck's sweepstake is looking better each week.

Did you even see the game yesterday? Painter not only played well, he actually resembled Manning on a couple audibles, its clear the dude is smart.

Other than 2-3 overthrown balls, that one really bad one, he played great.

Should have beat the Steelers or at least gone to OT and had a chance to win.
 
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You guys haven't watched enough of Orton and clearly have no idea what you're talking about. He can't react when a play breaks down, can't make decisions under pressure and is by far the slowest QB in the entire league.

This is his last year. He will either lose his job to Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, or we will stick with him and this will be his last year with the Broncos. I bet its his last year as a starter in this league too.

Uh, you need to watch more of Cassel if you think he's better. You're pretty far off with your assessment of the Chiefs. Weis gets way too much credit for Jamaal Charles getting yards when there were none and the times that Cassel was effective was running plays like those Haley had in Arizona (which Weis subsequently stopped calling for about the last 4-5 games; really he only called them for that run that Bowe had during the middle of the season).



He even fucks up putting a hat on. I'm mixed on sticking with him or moving to Stanzi. On the one hand, I'd really like Luck (and San Diego and to an extent New England showed that if you have two QBs that are good or you can convince people are good at least that you pretty much can't lose), but there's a good chance with a rookie QB they'll still be in the race and it'd be nice to get Stanzi the play (with little to no pressure to actually accomplish anything). I think there's a good chance he'll turn into a good QB in the NFL.

Honestly, it would have worked out better for both teams if McDaniels had gotten Cassel in Denver.
 

AstroManLuca

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Cassell could be good, he proved it last year under Charlie Weiss and in NE under that system - he has had a couple good seasons at the very least, more than I can say for Orton. Todd Haley is a complete moron and his coaching staff over there rivals one of the worst in the league next to Jacksonville. I'd rather Have Cassel

He had one good year being dropped into the best system in the NFL. But unlike the Patriots, the Chiefs are a really bad team. Only way they'd be good is if you threw someone like Peyton Manning in there who can elevate a bad team.

Matt Cassel sucks. The Chiefs had an easy schedule last year. And 10-6 isn't even that good; all sorts of bad teams go 10-6. Like the Vikings in 2008, they had the QB carousel going between Tarvaris Jackson and Gus Frerotte and THEY went 10-6. Would you take T-Jack or Gus over Orton? Or anyone for that matter? Like the Chiefs last year, they were carried by their supporting cast.
 
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