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AMDZen

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Brandon Marshall can make me look good if I start heaving enough footballs at him.


Exactly, which is who made Orton look good the year after but it was OK for you to use that argument when it suits you? Orton looked like shit last year without BMarsh but its OK for you to say how good he looked with him? He makes every QB look good.

Yet another thing Josh McDouchebag did, don't even get me started on Peyton Hillis.
 

IndyColtsFan

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You're such a tool. Nobody in Denver even saw it coming, once McD said he wanted to trade cutler they were like "WWHAA" WTF. Nobody in the media wanted Cutler gone and everyone was surprised and pissed off when it happened.

The national media is so full of fucking shit that now everyone thinks they know jack about what happened and the bottom line is, you have no idea wtf you're talking about.

Was it a case where the fans hated McDaniels more than Cutler, though? I'd certainly be hard-pressed to find a coach who screwed up his team more than him in such a short time.
 

AMDZen

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Was it a case where the fans hated McDaniels more than Cutler, though? I'd certainly be hard-pressed to find a coach who screwed up his team more than him in such a short time.

Well it happened as soon as Josh arrived. You have to realize, it was a shock for most fans that we fired Shanahan, but when we brought in McDaniels, this young (supposed) brilliant mind, we were all as optimistic as we could be. We heard the argument on both sides and everyone wished McD and Cutler would just work it out. "Why aren't they talking." Nobody was even thinking this was a possibility. There was no "real" hate for Culter in the media, at all, until McD arrived and started stirring things up.

Well it was months after the trade before all the details came to light and the media (national media mostly) was feeding everyone a lot of bullshit, and when things were laid out on the table. Yes, we hated Josh McDaniels for doing it. Pretty unanimous among all of Denver Bronco fans.

Fuck Josh McDaniels.
 

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Exactly, which is who made Orton look good the year after but it was OK for you to use that argument when it suits you? Orton looked like shit last year without BMarsh but its OK for you to say how good he looked with him? He makes every QB look good.

Yet another thing Josh McDouchebag did, don't even get me started on Peyton Hillis.

Um last year he had like 150 less yards and one less TD throwing to Brandon Lloyd instead. And he played a coulple less games with an ankle injury. I'd say that's quite an accomplishment.

Do you even know what you are rambling on about?
 

AMDZen

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Um last year he had like 150 less yards and one less TD throwing to Brandon Lloyd instead. And he played a coulple less games with an ankle injury. I'd say that's quite an accomplishment.

Do you even know what you are rambling on about?

Why do you keep throwing out numbers like it matters? Stats are bullshit. We went 4-12 last season, the second worst team in the league. Thats the only stat that matters.

We were always playing from behind, so of course he was slinging the ball around more. We couldn't do anything else because we were playing from behind 100% of the time.

But by all means, go ahead and pretend that you know or care about the Broncos, based on what you see on SportsCenter - even though you probably haven't watched an entire Broncos football game over this period of time we're discussing. Surely a fan who has had season tickets for a decade and seen every game doesn't know what he's rambling about.

It looks like we'll be as bad this year so this will be the last year of Orton, and thats all that matters to me.
 

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Why do you keep throwing out numbers like it matters? Stats are bullshit. We went 4-12 last season, the second worst team in the league. Thats the only stat that matters.

Most points and most yards allowed. And that's your QB's fault? One man doesn't make or break a team. Unless his name is Peyton Manning.
 
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Most points and most yards allowed. And that's your QB's fault? One man doesn't make or break a team. Unless his name is Peyton Manning.

I don't watch the Broncos much, but that could easily be the QB's fault. A lot of 3 and outs, picks, pick sixes, fumbles, etc lead to more points for the other team, more scoring opportunities, and more yards allowed.

A bad offense (typical of a bad QB) will also cause the defense to be on the field more, tiring out the defense, leading to more offense by the opposing team.
 

Scarpozzi

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It looks like we'll be as bad this year so this will be the last year of Orton, and thats all that matters to me.
You keep dogging him, but Orton looked good when he was at Chicago. He looked good with Brandon Marshall too. I think he just needs better protection and maybe some better receivers and line coaching. I watched some of his quick throws and he's definitely got good timing, mechanics, and stands in the pocket. I know that game Sunday wasn't as close as it looked because Tennessee made a bunch of lame moves (penalties primarily), but that goes to show how agressive the defense was. The only reason is because Hasselbeck put up another 300+ yard game to make up for it.

It makes you wonder what would have happened had Fox decided to kick that field goal rather than try to gamble....but apparently he hasn't learned his lesson:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18984123
 

AMDZen

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Most points and most yards allowed. And that's your QB's fault? One man doesn't make or break a team. Unless his name is Peyton Manning.

Yea, the defense blew last year and that wasn't Ortons fault. But if you actually watch the games, you will see that Orton is one of the worst, if not the worst QB at doing a lot of the little things that matter.

Orton isn't a leader. He can't get things done in the 4th QTR, and thats the same story for going on 3 years. There were plenty of games we could have won last year if Orton was a decent QB. We could have easily been 7-9 or 6-10. Which isn't good but still.

I hate Tony Homo, but last nights performance with that TERRIBLE offense around him is what I'm talking about. His whole team sucks, WR's can't run routes, center is a fucking moron - but he still figures out a way to win. Now if only Homo can do it in the postseason. That dude is clutch.

Orton should have won last week at Tennessee. With the way our defense played, there is no excuse. Coaching is also to blame for last week but Orton is the main player on the field to blame.

Games are won and lost in the clutch, in the 4th QTR and when it matters most. Thats when Orton plays his worst. You are welcome to believe what you want, but if he isn't gone after this year, it could be civil war in Dove Valley.
 

AMDZen

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I don't watch the Broncos much, but that could easily be the QB's fault. A lot of 3 and outs, picks, pick sixes, fumbles, etc lead to more points for the other team, more scoring opportunities, and more yards allowed.

A bad offense (typical of a bad QB) will also cause the defense to be on the field more, tiring out the defense, leading to more offense by the opposing team.

This was definitely part of the problem last year. We didn't have a running game either so that makes it a lot more difficult on Orton, however the defense (although still bad) wasn't nearly as bad as it seemed because the offense couldn't get it done either

You keep dogging him, but Orton looked good when he was at Chicago. He looked good with Brandon Marshall too. I think he just needs better protection and maybe some better receivers and line coaching. I watched some of his quick throws and he's definitely got good timing, mechanics, and stands in the pocket. I know that game Sunday wasn't as close as it looked because Tennessee made a bunch of lame moves (penalties primarily), but that goes to show how agressive the defense was. The only reason is because Hasselbeck put up another 300+ yard game to make up for it.

It makes you wonder what would have happened had Fox decided to kick that field goal rather than try to gamble....but apparently he hasn't learned his lesson:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18984123

Agreed on the call. Personally I love going for it on 4th and inches, the problem was the play call. Run up the middle once, twice, 3 times - whatever, do it a 4th time for your last chance you've just met the definition of insanity.

The Broncos would have easily won that game any way if Orton could put a drive together. 2 interceptions that were some of the worst I've ever seen. Reminded me of Matt Moore in Carolina last year.
 

Mermaidman

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Since there's no Week 4 thread, I'll pose here.

How many quarters will Tony Romo last before Suh knocks him out? D:
 

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Anyone know if Fairley is in the lineup this week for Detroit? That crazy defensive line just got even meaner if he's in.
 

Imported

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Heard Fairley is questionable.. I'd love to see him in the game to make that defensive line even crazier.
 

Arkaign

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Detroit's been a straight monster this year. Even though I'm a Dallas guy, I'll be happy either way when they meet up, win or lose. If Detroit wins, I'll pull for them to really take it to the bank and keep piling on the W's. The game will definitely show whether or not Dallas is capable of dealing with a tough team that plays every down to the max.

Detroit as a city could use the positive mojo for sure
 
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