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Zargon

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Needless to say, the AFC is much stronger than the NFC so far this year

eh

NE, MIA, DEN, IND

only ones that looks stong

Falcons are rather injury depleted at the moment as other pointed out

SEA, NO, DET, CHI, GB look they could win(or lose) any game they play this year


NE is weak for 4-0, remember they snuck past the Bucs for gods sake


this season is crazy weird so far, its going to be a few weeks still to sort out who really is great, besides Denver of course
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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You've obviously never watched a game with Mike "I Woulda Done It This Way" Mayock then.

That said, as much as I dislike the pats from a division rivalry standpoint, I would never wish ill-will on a player, but I am thankful I won't have to hear about the brokeback love affair that the announcers have with Wilfork for the rest of the season.

Did you catch any NFL Network games where they had Millen doing the announcing? It was beyond annoying. I literally had to turn the sound off.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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eh

NE, MIA, DEN, IND

only ones that looks stong

Falcons are rather injury depleted at the moment as other pointed out

SEA, NO, DET, CHI, GB look they could win(or lose) any game they play this year


NE is weak for 4-0, remember they snuck past the Bucs for gods sake


this season is crazy weird so far, its going to be a few weeks still to sort out who really is great, besides Denver of course

I can't wait to see how this season plays out. I mean...we very well could see Detroit vs Kansas City in the Superbowl (I'm not predicting that, just a possibility). I think the playoffs are going to give more than a few people heart attacks this year.

I can't wait until tomorrow when I get to post the divisional rankings (NFC North especially)
 

SunnyD

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eh

NE, MIA, DEN, IND

only ones that looks stong

Falcons are rather injury depleted at the moment as other pointed out

SEA, NO, DET, CHI, GB look they could win(or lose) any game they play this year


NE is weak for 4-0, remember they snuck past the Bucs for gods sake


this season is crazy weird so far, its going to be a few weeks still to sort out who really is great, besides Denver of course

So KC and TENN don't count? And after all, Seattle just barely squeaked by the last game.
 

IndyColtsFan

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eh

NE, MIA, DEN, IND

only ones that looks stong

Falcons are rather injury depleted at the moment as other pointed out

SEA, NO, DET, CHI, GB look they could win(or lose) any game they play this year


NE is weak for 4-0, remember they snuck past the Bucs for gods sake


this season is crazy weird so far, its going to be a few weeks still to sort out who really is great, besides Denver of course

KC is looking pretty good and I agree that NE is weak for a 4-0 team. Remember, KC may have had a bad record last season but they did have several Pro Bowlers and before last season, many picked them to finish first or second in the division. I think coaching and QB were their biggest issues and they remedied both this past offseason.

The Colts are still having some issues but their defense has played well for the last couple of weeks. Yes, yesterday doesn't count since the Jags aren't a real NFL team, but they played well against San Francisco. A couple of weeks ago, they lost two starters on offensive line and initially played better on the OL, but they had definite issues yesterday against the Jags. I mean, they've been pretty successful establishing the run the last couple of weeks but even with that threat, Luck is still constantly pressured on passes even when it isn't a slam dunk passing down.

I'm just not sure I know where the Colts fall in the AFC right now. I'd say Denver is easily the best team in the AFC (and the league) right now but after that, it is anyone's guess who is next in the AFC pecking order. Houston may still win the AFC South but I wouldn't ever bet on them to win a Super Bowl and I think their window is closing fast.

So KC and TENN don't count? And after all, Seattle just barely squeaked by the last game.

Yeah, we have three 3-1 teams in the AFC South right now so it will be interesting to see what happens with Tennessee.

EDIT: Oops, Houston is 2-2 so we have Indy and Tennessee atop the AFC South at the moment.
 
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MetalMat

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eh

NE, MIA, DEN, IND

only ones that looks stong

Falcons are rather injury depleted at the moment as other pointed out

SEA, NO, DET, CHI, GB look they could win(or lose) any game they play this year


NE is weak for 4-0, remember they snuck past the Bucs for gods sake


this season is crazy weird so far, its going to be a few weeks still to sort out who really is great, besides Denver of course

People keep saying the NE is not a good team but you cant ignore 4-0 and they did just walk into Atlanta and win. This is not the Cardinals from last year.
 

vi edit

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Yeah, this season just continues to be bizzaro.

Still not sure what the biggest surprise is.
A completely devastated Patriot Offense being 4-0
Andy Reid looking like a boss being 4-0 in KC
Giants appear to be getting *worse* each and are now 0-4

Then you have all the side storys that are interesting in their own regard...
- Atlanta is a hot mess
- SFO is struggling
- Browns mail in their season in week 2, put in a 2nd string QB and win 2 weeks in a row
- Denver is eviscerating any opponent that steps on the field
- How Rivers got his groove back and there's a pulse in San Diego
- Seattle is TOUGH
- How different NO looks this year with Payton back and Fabio Ryan running the Defense
- This giant sucking sound of all the hot air being let out the Philly pre-season hype balloon
 

SunnyD

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KC is looking pretty good and I agree that NE is weak for a 4-0 team.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that NE is a "weak" 4-0 team at this point. The first 3 games, yeah. They got lucky, and were a weak 3-0 team. I'd say as of this week NE has figured out their offensive weapons (the ones NOT named Amendola/Gronkowski) going forward and Brady is just getting comfortable. Tompkins (?) is looking like a pretty stellar receiver that's got a lot of upside and room to grow, and Dobson still has a ton of upside too. Put a healthy Amendola and Gronk back out there too and there's nothing remotely weak about NE. Even their defense is playing good enough to win games with their ever-present "let the opponent screw themselves" philosophy.

KC otoh, I think they're the real deal. They've always had the weapons, but not the coaching.
 

Jadow

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glad Detroit hung in there and beat Chi. Pack will beat Det next week and only be .5 back.
 

Capt Caveman

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Manning didn't lose in the first round last year. I suggest you review the playoff structure of the NFL.

But hey, look at the bright side -- with the way the Ravens are playing, maybe they won't make the playoffs and Brady won't be able to choke in the playoffs again.

Sorry, should have said his first playoff game this year. But maybe, he'll be able to pull his playoff record to .500 this year. :biggrin:

But if it's below 30 degrees in Denver in January, no dome to save him. :biggrin:
 

Zargon

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cannot believe I forgot KC

Tenneesee shows promise but Im trying to not get excited since 2 wins were the steelers and jets

and now locker is out 4-8 weeks

he was looking GREAT this year too, 4 weeks and no INTs


sunny is right the Pats are only going to get better most likely, tho no willfork is a huge loss

gronk and amendola will comibine to play like 12 games this year tho, I mean, seriously, who counts on them to be healthy??
 

Capt Caveman

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cannot believe I forgot KC

Tenneesee shows promise but Im trying to not get excited since 2 wins were the steelers and jets

and now locker is out 4-8 weeks

he was looking GREAT this year too, 4 weeks and no INTs


sunny is right the Pats are only going to get better most likely, tho no willfork is a huge loss

gronk and amendola will comibine to play like 12 games this year tho, I mean, seriously, who counts on them to be healthy??

NE is around $8 million under the cap, it's possible that they could trade for some defense line help or even persuade Richard Seymour to play(though doubtful).
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sorry, should have said his first playoff game this year. But maybe, he'll be able to pull his playoff record to .500 this year. :biggrin:

But if it's below 30 degrees in Denver in January, no dome to save him. :biggrin:

And there will be no one to save Tommy Boy from the Ravens if they pull it together and make the playoffs. I bet you guys are cheering hard for Cincy and Cleveland.
 

Adrenaline

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Yeah, this season just continues to be bizzaro.

Still not sure what the biggest surprise is.
A completely devastated Patriot Offense being 4-0
Andy Reid looking like a boss being 4-0 in KC
Giants appear to be getting *worse* each and are now 0-4

Then you have all the side storys that are interesting in their own regard...
- Atlanta is a hot mess
- SFO is struggling
- Browns mail in their season in week 2, put in a 2nd string QB and win 2 weeks in a row
- Denver is eviscerating any opponent that steps on the field
- How Rivers got his groove back and there's a pulse in San Diego
- Seattle is TOUGH
- How different NO looks this year with Payton back and Fabio Ryan running the Defense
- This giant sucking sound of all the hot air being let out the Philly pre-season hype balloon

SFO is not struggling. They got blown out in Seattle, they are 4-0, which was expected. Their other loss was Indianapolis, and they are 3-1. Their next game is the Texans, can go either way, then the Cardinals after that. The 49ers at 3-3 or 4-2 is not struggling with the tough schedule they have. If they wind up 2-4, then they are struggling.

I don't even like the 49ers.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I think Gus Bradley better polish up his resume. I can't see the Jags avoiding 0-16 at this point and I can't see any coach surviving that kind of record unless they suddenly become uber competitive in each loss.
 

crownjules

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And there will be no one to save Tommy Boy from the Ravens if they pull it together and make the playoffs. I bet you guys are cheering hard for Cincy and Cleveland.

The Ravens don't exactly look like much this year. It seems like they should have taken half of the money they gave to Flacco and used it to resign Boldin.
 

Capt Caveman

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And there will be no one to save Tommy Boy from the Ravens if they pull it together and make the playoffs. I bet you guys are cheering hard for Cincy and Cleveland.

If Talib hadn't have injured himself, last year's game could have been different. Based on their game yesterday, the Ravens aren't much of a concern.
 

rudeguy

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The Ravens don't exactly look like much this year. It seems like they should have taken half of the money they gave to Flacco and used it to resign Boldin.

I don't disagree.

I like the Ravens a lot and I am not impressed this year. I really didn't like the Flaco contract. It was overkill and I think everyone knew it. Lets see if he steps up and gives up some of that this off season so they can sign some help.
 

MetalMat

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I watched some of that Colts vs. Jags game. Needless to say Blaine Gabbert really sucks, he is even worse than last year if thats possible.
 

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SFO is not struggling. They got blown out in Seattle, they are 4-0, which was expected. Their other loss was Indianapolis, and they are 3-1. Their next game is the Texans, can go either way, then the Cardinals after that. The 49ers at 3-3 or 4-2 is not struggling with the tough schedule they have. If they wind up 2-4, then they are struggling.

I don't even like the 49ers.
They scored 10 points total in those two losses, and I think that would be well within the definition of "struggling." They beat the lowly Rams this week, but that's hardly impressive. Their win against the Packers in Week 1 was very nice, though. Inconsistent is a good description, at this point.
 

rudeguy

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They scored 10 points total in those two losses, and I think that would be well within the definition of "struggling." They beat the lowly Rams this week, but that's hardly impressive. Their win against the Packers in Week 1 was very nice, though. Inconsistent is a good description, at this point.

I thought Kaep was even talking about them struggling?

I like the Niners. I hope they do pull things together. Right now they are dealing with mental struggles. They have a shit ton of talent. They just need to get their heads right.
 

vi edit

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I think SFO is indeed struggling with the expectations of last year and how to continue their gameplan in the wake of injuries and roster loss. They got humiliated by Seattle and then turned around and totally punked by Indy on their own field. The only reason they aren't in every headline is because they beat up on a miserable STL team to bring them to 2-2 for the season.

They aren't Giants bad...but they clearly are not the juggernaught they were last year.
 

dank69

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I thought Kaep was even talking about them struggling?

I like the Niners. I hope they do pull things together. Right now they are dealing with mental struggles. They have a shit ton of talent. They just need to get their heads right.
I've noticed more and more starting even with week 3 of preseason that Kap starts slow. It's like he has no confidence until he completes a few passes. Once he gets going though it's like a light switch, suddenly he is firing bullets with accuracy. IMO their game plan for every game should start with a couple quick screens just to get a couple completions under his belt.

Oh, and like I've said for the last decade, run the fucking ball more (RBs, not Kap).
 
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