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smackababy

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Week 6: October 8 - October 14

THU, OCT 9

Indianapolis at Houston 8:25


SUN, OCT 12 TIME (ET)

Jacksonville at Tennessee 1:00 PM CBS
Baltimore at Tampa Bay 1:00 PM CBS
Denver at NY Jets 1:00 PM CBS
Detroit at Minnesota 1:00 PM FOX
New England at Buffalo 1:00 PM FOX
Carolina at Cincinnati 1:00 PM FOX
Pittsburgh at Cleveland 1:00 PM CBS
Green Bay at Miami 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Oakland 4:05 PM CBS
Chicago at Atlanta 4:25 PM FOX
Dallas at Seattle 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Arizona 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:30 PM NBC

MON, OCT 13 TIME (ET)

San Francisco at St. Louis 8:30 PM ESPN


Mostly pretty easy picks this week.

Man, was J.J. fun to watch or what? Without him, that game would have been a savage beating.
JJ Watt is going to have to run in for a TD and throw in one before the end of the season. That way, he can score on an INT, fumble recover, pass, run, and throw for one. That has to be some kind of record. Score in every possible way.
 

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JJ Watt is going to have to run in for a TD and throw in one before the end of the season. That way, he can score on an INT, fumble recover, pass, run, and throw for one. That has to be some kind of record. Score in every possible way.

Guest appearance as an extra point kicker?

:awe:
 

angminas

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How far back do you have to go to find a DL as good as Watt? Where does he look to end up all-time if he doesn't get a devastating injury?
 

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How far back do you have to go to find a DL as good as Watt? Where does he look to end up all-time if he doesn't get a devastating injury?

I'd say you'd have to go back to Reggie White or Bruce Smith to find someone as good as Watt.
 

smackababy

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I would have to say he is looking like a Strahan type player. He has already come close to the single season sack record so early on.

I'd say you'd have to go back to Reggie White or Bruce Smith to find someone as good as Watt.

I was going to say those two, but I think Watt is more athletic than both.
 

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Tough to compare players over the ages. Look at Luck last night. 44 pass attemps. That's average for them and they lead the league in attemps per game at around that same number. Go back 10 years ago and the highest number of attempts per game was 38. Go back further than that into the 70's and it was only 25 per game.

The chance of sacking a QB or deflecting a ball is lot higher now just due to opportunity. You have almost twice as many passing plays to do it.
 

IndyColtsFan

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You happen to have that thread handy? I'm pretty sure I remember what I said in that debate thread. And I think it's already proven accurate.

No, I don't have it handy. I'll have to search for it when I get back from my vacation this weekend.
 

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I know this is not the fantasy thread but I am starting the Texans D/ST in a league all season (expect bye obviously) just because I like watching JJ Watt, I dont care if they get me 2 points as a unit each week
 

smackababy

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Tough to compare players over the ages. Look at Luck last night. 44 pass attemps. That's average for them and they lead the league in attemps per game at around that same number. Go back 10 years ago and the highest number of attempts per game was 38. Go back further than that into the 70's and it was only 25 per game.

The chance of sacking a QB or deflecting a ball is lot higher now just due to opportunity. You have almost twice as many passing plays to do it.

That seems like a good argument, except, if we go 10 years back, we have someone on less attempts getting 22.5 stacks in a season. Even with more attempts, nobody has broken that. There have been 9 people who have recorded numbers over 20, three of which happened during this era. If it were that much easier, someone would have broken it. Especially, with how talented a lot of these players are now days.
 

zinfamous

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I know, but they could have gone after Wilson.

see, this exactly.

fucking Skins.

but no one was going after Wilson that high. no one. Not even Seattle, who had golden boy Matt Flynn in their stable. (remember that guy).
 

smackababy

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what choice? They couldn't draft Luck. He was a #1 pick. They did not have the #1 pick.

They had a choice to not trade away their livelihood and draft someone later on. Hell, Wilson at whatever their other spots would have panned out better. Their best move in that draft was grabbing Morris in the 6th round.
 

IndyColtsFan

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They had a choice to not trade away their livelihood and draft someone later on. Hell, Wilson at whatever their other spots would have panned out better. Their best move in that draft was grabbing Morris in the 6th round.

People were pissed at me when I said the Redskins got ripped off. To those folks, I'd just like to say: I TOLD YOU SO
 

smackababy

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Griffin not panning out yet doesn't mean he was a bad pick at the time.

Griffin being injury prone and worth nothing more than a single playoff appearance at that cost means he is a bad pick. He had potential, but the Redskins bet the farm on him, and got nothing. Giving up a huge amount for a player puts all your eggs in that player, at least, for a couple years. And, look at the other QBs from that draft.
 

zinfamous

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JJ Watt is going to have to run in for a TD and throw in one before the end of the season. That way, he can score on an INT, fumble recover, pass, run, and throw for one. That has to be some kind of record. Score in every possible way.

also need to score on a missed field goal/return for TD--like Hester. beat that, JJ!
 

smackababy

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also need to score on a missed field goal/return for TD--like Hester. beat that, JJ!

I believe that special teams TDs count as return TDs, which includes INTs and Fumbles. So, he'd really only need to run in a TD and throw a TD. Maybe kick a field goal. Hell, he can do everything else, why not kick?
 

zinfamous

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I believe that special teams TDs count as return TDs, which includes INTs and Fumbles. So, he'd really only need to run in a TD and throw a TD. Maybe kick a field goal. Hell, he can do everything else, why not kick?

but that is neither an INT nor a Fumble, I believe. Also, I bring it up because it was mentioned earlier in the year, in that one game, that Hester is the only player to score every possible way on special teams, in a single game. (I think single game): the punt return, kickoff return, missed FG return.
 

smackababy

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but that is neither an INT nor a Fumble, I believe. Also, I bring it up because it was mentioned earlier in the year, in that one game, that Hester is the only player to score every possible way on special teams, in a single game. (I think single game): the punt return, kickoff return, missed FG return.

Ah, yeah. But, as far as Hester's record (and previously Deion's) they count INT returns as return TDs.
 
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